50 non UK criminals getting deported tomorrow.

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Those deportees are not black enough....I mentioned the same about Ukraine..these folk are too white for on our way to wakanda or the caliphate or whatever @onourway and pals are heading towards
Boris Johnson’s government is suppressing its own independent review so it can knowingly and intentionally defy the recommendations that are made within it. In it, Wendy Williams says the government should “review its policy and approach to FNOs [foreign national offenders], if necessary through primary legislation”. These include considering “ending all deportation of FNOs where they arrived in the UK as children” and only using deportation in “the most severe cases”.
 

Ernest Shackleton

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Boris Johnson’s government is suppressing its own independent review so it can knowingly and intentionally defy the recommendations that are made within it. In it, Wendy Williams says the government should “review its policy and approach to FNOs [foreign national offenders], if necessary through primary legislation”. These include considering “ending all deportation of FNOs where they arrived in the UK as children” and only using deportation in “the most severe cases”.
Mate, I actually think in these cases you could classify as driving 22 mph in a 20 mph as pretty severe.
If you are a migrant and you are blatantly breaking our driving laws you go.
 
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Mate, I actually think in these cases you could classify as driving 22 mph in a 20 mph as pretty severe.
If you are a migrant and you are blatantly breaking our driving laws you go.
Yes, but you're a fat moron so obviously your opinions and ideas are what I'd expect from someone with a severe head injury.
 
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Clarence Worley

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Boris Johnson’s government is suppressing its own independent review so it can knowingly and intentionally defy the recommendations that are made within it. In it, Wendy Williams says the government should “review its policy and approach to FNOs [foreign national offenders], if necessary through primary legislation”. These include considering “ending all deportation of FNOs where they arrived in the UK as children” and only using deportation in “the most severe cases”.
Who did the review? Some soros quango

That review can fuck right off frankly and let’s fave it everyone involved gonna be either so white guilt ridden sjw or a token ethnic majority
 

Clarence Worley

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Mate, I actually think in these cases you could classify as driving 22 mph in a 20 mph as pretty severe.
If you are a migrant and you are blatantly breaking our driving laws you go.
I’ve told this story about the Albanian with no insurance and 25k of coke in the boot before. I laughed like a drain when he had to leg it from the scene of a minor prang
 

Clarence Worley

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Boris Johnson’s government is suppressing its own independent review so it can knowingly and intentionally defy the recommendations that are made within it. In it, Wendy Williams says the government should “review its policy and approach to FNOs [foreign national offenders], if necessary through primary legislation”. These include considering “ending all deportation of FNOs where they arrived in the UK as children” and only using deportation in “the most severe cases”.
Are these 38 year old Syrian kids included in that?
 

DB Cooper

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Australia are happy to assist here but we will only take any convicts among them.
 

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Fuck off. They want to appeal to law to defend them when they obviously have no respect or regard for it

Fuck then. Labour learnt nothing defending this shit
While I agree with getting rid of them, due process has to be followed, it's a dangerous line for all of us when the police aren't themselves policed.
 
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Why do people keep trying to paint this narrative that these people are just petty criminals and they are somehow being singled out because they are black? That is clearly not the case, these are serious criminals and white EU nationals, many who have also lived here for years, also get deported all the time. I've just read that one of these people is Fabian Henry who's a serial rapist ffs.

and lost more voters...
Yep. The Labour Party are so out of touch that they don't realise how terrible this is making look to most ordinary people. They just keep digging theor own grave. David Lammy was championing one of these people, saying how he came here as a child and only committed a robbery. But what he neglected to metion was he came here as a 'child' when he was 17 and he wasn't just charged with robbery becasue he also smashed the elderly shop keepers head in with a wrench.
 
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Why do people keep trying to paint this narrative that these people are just petty criminals and they are somehow being singled out because they are black? That is clearly not the case, these are serious criminals and white EU nationals, many who have also lived here for years, also get deported all the time. I've just read that one of these people is Fabian Henry who's a serial rapist ffs
The problem on both sides is that there's no distinction being made. So the left are lumping all 50 into the category of minor offender who came here when he was 2, and the right (like most on this thread) lumping them all into "rapist" category and then spuriously comparing the deportation of someone who has been here since they were 2 and has no memory of being anything but British with an adult Romanian coming here, committing a crime and being deported.

The facts of each case should be laid out. There was a guy who has been here since 2, and his arrest was for possession of a class A drug, and he did his time for it, and was released. No, he should not be deported. He has shown no pattern of repeat offending, he's never lived in Jamaica as even an infant aged child, and possession is a bullshit crime anyway, that is clogging up prisons when we should be freeing up space for longer stretches for people like terrorists and sex offenders.

However, there are then serial rapists. Fuck them. I don't care when they came here, if we can get them out of the country legally then we should.

But as always, nuance is beyond most people on both sides of the debate, so we just get one side shouting "racism" and the other side cheering and pretending that the other side would like to see lots of rapists freed to walk the streets. It's why it's almost futile trying to have a discussion with any objectivity with anyone.
 
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You left a "fact" out.
Fixed...
No, that's not a fact. It's nothing to do with illegal immigration, but surprise surprise you're piping up with sweeping statements about a raft of cases that you know nothing about. I'm sure you were not cheering on the Windrush deportations either.
 
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No, that's not a fact. It's nothing to do with illegal immigration, but surprise surprise you're piping up with sweeping statements about a raft of cases that you know nothing about. I'm sure you were not cheering on the Windrush deportations either.
If you commit a crime in the UK, no matter how small, and we can ship you back from where you came then cheerio...
 

DB Cooper

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If you commit a crime in the UK, no matter how small, and we can ship you back from where you came then cheerio...
It has been going on for hundreds of years. We used to take all the ones you didn't want. These days those people's decedents are 'suffering' here in a topical paradise.
 
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If you commit a crime in the UK, no matter how small, and we can ship you back from where you came then cheerio...
So yes, you didn't have a clue. :lol: I know you'd like everyone not born here and not white to fuck off, but unfortunately that's not going to happen for you, so you just keep celebrating the little victories like getting your blue passport, and seeing a handful of dark people deported every so often.
 
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The problem on both sides is that there's no distinction being made. So the left are lumping all 50 into the category of minor offender who came here when he was 2, and the right (like most on this thread) lumping them all into "rapist" category and then spuriously comparing the deportation of someone who has been here since they were 2 and has no memory of being anything but British with an adult Romanian coming here, committing a crime and being deported.

The facts of each case should be laid out. There was a guy who has been here since 2, and his arrest was for possession of a class A drug, and he did his time for it, and was released. No, he should not be deported. He has shown no pattern of repeat offending, he's never lived in Jamaica as even an infant aged child, and possession is a bullshit crime anyway, that is clogging up prisons when we should be freeing up space for longer stretches for people like terrorists and sex offenders.

However, there are then serial rapists. Fuck them. I don't care when they came here, if we can get them out of the country legally then we should.

But as always, nuance is beyond most people on both sides of the debate, so we just get one side shouting "racism" and the other side cheering and pretending that the other side would like to see lots of rapists freed to walk the streets. It's why it's almost futile trying to have a discussion with any objectivity with anyone.
If someone has been here since they were 2 and have only been charged with possession then obviously that is different and no, I don't think they should be deported either. But from what I've seen cases like that seem to be the exception that are being carefully cherry picked. I was reading the Evening Standard last night and of the 25 deportees who have just been granted stay, the breakdown was something like one has committed manslaughter, another a firearm offence, a few for Section 18 GBH (so the most serious violent crime), 2 or 3 of rapists and the rest have served time for selling class A drugs, which judging by their sentences, must have been on a large scale involved with organised crime. So hardly the downtrodden, unfairly picked-on due to racism petty criminals that some people are trying to portray them as. Which is why Corbyn and Labour Party carrying on the way they are is such a terrible look and just another nail in the coffin for them.
 

Dazl1212

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If someone has been here since they were 2 and have only been charged with possession then obviously that is different and no, I don't think they should be deported either. But from what I've seen cases like that seem to be the exception that are being carefully cherry picked. I was reading the Evening Standard last night and of the 25 deportees who have just been granted stay, the breakdown was something like one has committed manslaughter, another a firearm offence, a few for Section 18 GBH (so the most serious violent crime), 2 or 3 of rapists and the rest have served time for selling class A drugs, which judging by their sentences, must have been on a large scale involved with organised crime. So hardly the downtrodden, unfairly picked-on due to racism petty criminals that some people are trying to portray them as. Which is why Corbyn and Labour Party carrying on the way they are is such a terrible look and just another nail in the coffin for them.
If Corbyn made his PMQs mainly about this, then that sums up one of the big reasons why they lost so badly at the last election.

They should focus that time on universal credit and pip saying people with terminal cancer are fit to work.
 
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If Corbyn made his PMQs mainly about this, then that sums up one of the big reasons why they lost so badly at the last election.

They should focus that time on universal credit and pip saying people with terminal cancer are fit to work.
All he had to do is say what Strike did, which is that while serious foreign criminals should be removed from the country, we should also judge this on a case by case basis and if there is someone like the guy who came here at 2 and only has one criminal conviction for drug possession, then they shouldn't be deported. But no, it instead turned into the usual ideological driven frenzy of virtue signalling and race baiting that perfectly plays into every negative perception that most people already have about him and the Labour Party.
 
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