AJ will have to accept 50/50 to make unification fight or it won't happen - time it got done

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It is time Hearn and AJ stopped with the high powered businessmen trying to milk every last dollar charade, accepted it will take a 50/50 split to make a unification fight and got the fight made.
 
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He's fought mostly shit since (and before)he got that WBC off Stiverne and we all know he got beat in his last fight against the second world class fighter he fought not even at 100 percent and shouldn't even have it any more, 50 50 is not a reward he deserves
 
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He's fought mostly shit since (and before)he got that WBC off Stiverne and we all know he got beat in his last fight against the second world class fighter he fought not even at 100 percent and shouldn't even have it any more, 50 50 is not a reward he deserves
I thought Fury won too. But whether we like it or not Wilder is the WBC champion and his record says he is undefeated and has stopped 39 of his 40 opponents. Do you honestly think if AJ had have had a couple of dubious decisions go his way Hearn would be saying AJ deserved a lesser split because of that?
 
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I thought Fury won too. But whether we like it or not Wilder's record says he is undefeated and has stopped 39 of his 40 opponents. Do you honestly think if AJ had have had a couple of dubious decisions go his way Hearn would be saying AJ deserved a lesser split because of that?
Joshua brings more fans, more belts, a better resume. Had Wilder actually captured the lineal title off Fury, 100 percent or not, then that's something to bargain with. It would be the coup of the century for Wilders matchmakers if he managed to pull off 50/50 split in a mega fight with Anthony Joshua considering they've taken maybe 2 calculated risks his entire career and the second one only worked out because of corrupt judging
 
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Joshua brings more fans, more belts, a better resume. Had Wilder actually captured the lineal title off Fury, 100 percent or not, then that's something to bargain with. It would be the coup of the century for Wilders matchmakers if he managed to pull off 50/50 split in a mega fight with Anthony Joshua considering they've taken maybe 2 calculated risks his entire career and the second one only worked out because of corrupt judging
It really comes down to whether AJ wants the fight or not. He has sprouted on about it not being all about the money and how badly he wants all the titles. I want to see the fight made. Do you?
 
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It really comes down to whether AJ wants the fight or not. He has sprouted on about it not being all about the money and how badly he wants all the titles. I want to see the fight made. Do you?

Sure, and I think he beats him quickly and brutally for all the belts and can make more money so why not? But I just think when you weigh them both up, 50/50 is still very generous to Wilder. I sincerely doubt either man is afraid to get into the ring with the other, but I don't know much about all the messy politics that goes into these fights behind the scenes, just that theres a lot of it.
 
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Remember too that it was AJ who was playing down the lineal title. Saying first he didn't even know about it and then later that it was meaningless anyway because it was no longer the man who beat the man. He even went as far as saying Lewis was the last legitimate lineal champion and according to him now there isn't one. Don't tell me Wilder not holding the lineal title is the latest excuse why he won't fight him or won't pay him enough to get the fight made?
 
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Remember too that it was AJ who was playing down the lineal title. Saying first he didn't even know about it and then later that it was meaningless anyway because it was no longer the man who beat the man. He even went as far as saying Lewis was the last legitimate lineal champion and now there wasn't one. Don't tell me that is the latest excuse
Taking his cue from Eddie Hearn
 
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The words came out of AJ's own mouth FFS! Hearn can only get the blame for so much.
Well he's going to shit on Furys title because Fury never says a good word about him, I don't take it to be him making excuses because he's scared of anyone
 
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Well he's going to shit on Furys title because Fury never says a good word about him, I don't take it to be him making excuses because he's scared of anyone
I don't care who hates who. It is boxing. Do you care who hates who? So what if Fury has never said a good word about Joshua. Boo hoo.

Team Joshua can't make a big thing about talking the lineal belt down and then claim, or have people claim, that Wilder's position is devalued because he doesn't hold the lineal belt. That is the problem. People are buying this bullshit and forgetting the priority is actually to get fights made.
 

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Anthony Joshua is told what he MUST do to secure Deontay Wilder and Tyson Fury fights

Anthony Joshua will have to accept a 50/50 split in order to make fights against Deontay Wilder and Tyson Fury according to Fury’s trainer Ben Davison.

“I think it’s about time that they make that fight,” Davison said of Joshua vs Wilder on iFL TV.

“I think that the problem is, Joshua’s team are looking at it too much in a business way.

“It depends what your goal is. If your goal is to make as much money as possible, then yeah, negotiate it out, argue it out, fight to the death until the last few per cent.

“In my eyes, if you want to make that fight, it’s 50/50. It’s two champions coming together, it’s 50/50. Otherwise, we may never see that fight.”

“I believe that Joshua wants that fight but - I don’t know if it’s his views or his teams views,” Davison added.

“I think they’ve got to stop looking at it as business, ‘this man’s worth this much’. His biggest payday is with those two, and their biggest paydays are with him.

“Everybody’s earning plenty and full, let the fans get what the fans want. If they want the fight, that’s how I see it.”

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/boxing/1066307/Anthony-Joshua-Tyson-Fury-Deontay-Wilder-Eddie-Hearn-heavyweight-fights
 
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But I just think when you weigh them both up, 50/50 is still very generous to Wilder.
Agreed, but fundamentally as fans we should just say "so what?". Who cares if it is too generous to Wilder, when AJ is a multimillionaire?

And from the perspective of the boxer...sure if money is his main goal then fair enough, he is right to argue he is the bigger draw, but he can't then say that legacy and achievements are his main goals and have the fans respect and believe that.

I don't see any harm in trying to negotiate more than 50% for the bigger draw, but if it becomes clear that the fight won't be made without accepting 50/50...just fucking make it. He will still be earning MILLIONS for the fight, and even if he lost there would still be plenty more fights to come that would also pay him millions.

So what is the priority? Getting what him and his team think is their fair cut, or trying to create a legacy?
 
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notice how quiet all this has gone from the fighters and promoters? i reckon that wilder thought fury would be a pushover after just two fights back and he knows he was lucky to get gifted a draw. a rematch with fury will earn but realistically nothing like the aj fight. why risk it?

i reckon it might be happening behind the scenes right now.
 
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Sure, and I think he beats him quickly and brutally for all the belts and can make more money so why not? But I just think when you weigh them both up, 50/50 is still very generous to Wilder. I sincerely doubt either man is afraid to get into the ring with the other, but I don't know much about all the messy politics that goes into these fights behind the scenes, just that theres a lot of it.
I m sure you are right about neither fighter being afraid of the other Kraken,and none of the BIG THREE of Wilder AJ and Fury are afraid of each other. Ive been saying this for ages, but the OP is right. When I FIRST started saying 50 50 was fair,I was being laughed at on this forum. Why I ask?? Wilder was prepared to come HERE to fight AJ for 50 50. There was the danger of losing his title. He has now drawn with{I know he really lost} the third member of the trilogy and knocked out the best of the rest. He has greater bargaining power now. Im sure.
Look for the I Film interview with Ben Davison,in which he says if FURY doesn't get 50 50 him and AJ is NOT happening. And again I don't blame him. These boxers Id say are about on a par and any combination is a massive fight. Give Fury his parity, let him fight AJ and the winner fight Wilder. All 50 50 splits, or as Ive said before,60 40 to the winner. These are all top confident fighters with egos who think they can beat anybody. Treat then as such.
 
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notice how quiet all this has gone from the fighters and promoters? i reckon that wilder thought fury would be a pushover after just two fights back and he knows he was lucky to get gifted a draw. a rematch with fury will earn but realistically nothing like the aj fight. why risk it?

i reckon it might be happening behind the scenes right now.
Fury had had TWO warm ups though mate. Not as though he'd come straight into the Wilder fight. I know,everybody,including his old man, thought he should have had more. But lets give Wilder a bit of credit. He fought him, got outboxed for most of the fight, then put him down twice. He's a fighting champion, just as much as AJ.
 
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notice how quiet all this has gone from the fighters and promoters? i reckon that wilder thought fury would be a pushover after just two fights back and he knows he was lucky to get gifted a draw. a rematch with fury will earn but realistically nothing like the aj fight. why risk it?

i reckon it might be happening behind the scenes right now.
I think Fury vs AJ might be the one being negotiated. Not as yet, but for later in the year.
 
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I might add that in his interview Davison seemed to be quite happy for AJ to fight Wilder first then his boxer Tyson to fight the winner. Ideally I think that would be great. It would be a travestyif none of the three fought each other, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if they didn't. This year at least.
 
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Agreed, but fundamentally as fans we should just say "so what?". Who cares if it is too generous to Wilder, when AJ is a multimillionaire?

And from the perspective of the boxer...sure if money is his main goal then fair enough, he is right to argue he is the bigger draw, but he can't then say that legacy and achievements are his main goals and have the fans respect and believe that.

I don't see any harm in trying to negotiate more than 50% for the bigger draw, but if it becomes clear that the fight won't be made without accepting 50/50...just fucking make it. He will still be earning MILLIONS for the fight, and even if he lost there would still be plenty more fights to come that would also pay him millions.

So what is the priority? Getting what him and his team think is their fair cut, or trying to create a legacy?
Again Strike,risk and reward. The reward is a great victory, but the risk is the bubble being well and truly burst when theres plenty of lesser, but very good, challenges around. Beat the likes of Whyte again,Miller, and Usyk{fantastic win that would be} and Hearn could carry on saying Wilder and Fury are pricing themselves out of the fight.