AJ will have to accept 50/50 to make unification fight or it won't happen - time it got done

Jun 20, 2012
8,920
2,834
Everybody that AJ has fought since becoming champion has given him a fight. I don't think Miller will be any different.
When it comes to PPV, I think the bar should be set higher than someone who comes to fight. It should be an opponent who actually has a reasonable chance of winning. Nothing Miller has shown me suggests that he meets that criteria.
 
Jul 26, 2013
19,505
6,463
When it comes to PPV, I think the bar should be set higher than someone who comes to fight. It should be an opponent who actually has a reasonable chance of winning. Nothing Miller has shown me suggests that he meets that criteria.
But you might have said that about Rahman or the other guy before they beat Lennox mate. Or Douglas pre Tyson. Nobody gave him a chance.
Miller is unbeaten. So for me as such a bit of an unknown quantity. Again,agree to disagree
 
Oct 29, 2018
142
56
Id have liked that bar the Chinny Robot bit. Wilder WAS ducked but by Hearn. Only thing is I think AJ could have overruled him. Thats not exactly unique for a fighter to do that. But again, and for business reasons rather than being afraid etc he chose not to.
Far too simplistic to just blame Hearn. They know Wilder is capable of knocking anyone out including AJ and they didn't want to take the risk. The risk vs reward excuse doesn't hold up either because AJ-Wilder is the biggest $$$ fight out there.
 

DB Cooper

peel me a grape
May 17, 2013
16,423
3,527
Because those are fights that probably can't and won't be made.
You are just plain gullible if fall for the 'can't be made' excuse. The two biggest heavyweight fights out there can be made.

Why? Because there is so much money to be made that there is plenty for everyone.
 
Jul 26, 2013
19,505
6,463
You are just plain gullible if fall for the 'can't be made' excuse. The two biggest heavyweight fights out there can be made.

Why? Because there is so much money to be made that there is plenty for everyone.
DB you must have seen enough of me to know Im anything but gullible. Somebody once suggested my username should be the Cynic,which would be nearer the mark than the one Ive actually got.
When I say "can't be made" its because one or both parties will not accept a lesser share of the purse. Didn't say won't be made because though Im a bit negative and at the end of 2018 thought none of the big 3 would fight each other Im encouraged by Tyson not letting himself go over Christmas and hopeful that some time this year we will get a result between him and Wilder and that maybe in 2020 AJ,or more specifically Hearn,will be shamed into 50 50 against the winner. To prove who actually IS the best man.
 
Jun 20, 2012
8,920
2,834
But you might have said that about Rahman or the other guy before they beat Lennox mate. Or Douglas pre Tyson. Nobody gave him a chance.
Miller is unbeaten. So for me as such a bit of an unknown quantity. Again,agree to disagree
Well the opponent always has a small chance in heavyweight boxing but imo it still doesn't justify PPV where on paper, in all probability, they're going to get anhillated. Not when I'm paying anyway but good luck to you if you want to spend your own money on watching some sub-par guy get hammered for 12 rounds :good
 
Jul 26, 2013
19,505
6,463
Well the opponent always has a small chance in heavyweight boxing but imo it still doesn't justify PPV where on paper, in all probability, they're going to get anhillated. Not when I'm paying anyway but good luck to you if you want to spend your own money on watching some sub-par guy get hammered for 12 rounds :good
But although I see Miller losing I don't expect him to get hammered for 12 rounds. More likely he goes for AJ,has a bit of success asdid Povetkin, forces AJ to fight and gets stopped in a decent fight. And I always look on the undercard as well as the main event. Thats because I watch a PPV in the comfort of my own home instead of the false economy of watching in a pub with a crowd of idiots who've had too much to drink. Not to mention the fact I may drink too much myself and spend MUCH more than the 20 quid Id pay for the PPV.
I See boxing fans on here talk about going abroad to exotic places on holiday2 or 3 times a year and yet they're too tight to pay 20 quid 5 or 6 times a year to watch their favourite sport. I just can't work it out. But as you say good luck to them also.
 
Jul 26, 2013
19,505
6,463
Regarding Millers chances I think if Takam gave AJ trouble,Miller will give him a bit more. The result being a half decent fight. I don't expect anybody to agree with me but I will be taking names, and this time next year metaphorically kicking arse if Im still here.
 
Aug 18, 2013
1,157
319
Joshua and Fury both need Wilder to break the US market, which is by far the most lucrative market in the work.

As shown by his 16,000 views, Joshua is no financial draw in the US.
 

Wig

Jan 26, 2014
5,406
1,711
“Sixteen THOUSAND viewers in America on the zone equates to one point six MILLION sky addict buys in the uk koogs, different markets, do you understand what I’m telling you?”
 
Jun 20, 2012
8,920
2,834
But although I see Miller losing I don't expect him to get hammered for 12 rounds. More likely he goes for AJ,has a bit of success asdid Povetkin, forces AJ to fight and gets stopped in a decent fight. And I always look on the undercard as well as the main event. Thats because I watch a PPV in the comfort of my own home instead of the false economy of watching in a pub with a crowd of idiots who've had too much to drink. Not to mention the fact I may drink too much myself and spend MUCH more than the 20 quid Id pay for the PPV.
I See boxing fans on here talk about going abroad to exotic places on holiday2 or 3 times a year and yet they're too tight to pay 20 quid 5 or 6 times a year to watch their favourite sport. I just can't work it out. But as you say good luck to them also.
Given the huge amount of PPV cards on these days, I think fans need to be more discerning as to what they pay for. I'm not tight but I refuse to pay for something I don't consider a quality product and for me this fight would fall into that category but obviously you pay your money and take your choice.
 
Reactions: Boxfan
Jul 26, 2013
19,505
6,463
Hearn mentioned Joshua taking 10,000 brits to MSG. Hahaha.

What a deluded man!

AJ's fanbase is full of casuals. Fury took thousands because of his traveller connections along with the fact that hardcore fans love him.
I don't think Hearn has any intention of AJ fighting outside the UK though Im prepared to be wrong. Ive always thought the money was here in the UK.
But I agree about Fury. Lots of travelling people in this country, very few short of a bob or two. So he probably takes more fans. Regarding the hardcore I think you are bang on, even more so after his showing on December 1st.
 
Nov 10, 2014
1,175
405
Is there a possibility we could get PULEV instead of Miller?? He looks to have earned his shot and is probably still mandatory challenger. Not sure I like him more than Miller though. We won't get that "these 2 really don't like each other" factor and I still don't think he fancies fighting in the UK.
I am only really interested in AJ-Wilder or AJ-Fury. There will never be a better time careerwise and entertainmentwise for these fights to be made. In a couple of years they will be completely overcooked like Mayweather-Pacquiao was.
 
Oct 18, 2014
1,222
866
I am only really interested in AJ-Wilder or AJ-Fury. There will never be a better time careerwise and entertainmentwise for these fights to be made. In a couple of years they will be completely overcooked like Mayweather-Pacquiao was.
In an ideal world BOTH of those fights would get made this year, with AJ fighting and beating Wilder, Fury beating a decent opponent in the meantime and those two meeting in August or September.Now is the time, these fights don’t need any more “marination” .But sadly I don’t see AJ fighting either man in 2019.It’s almost like they have no intention of fighting Fury this year whatsoever, even if they get Wilder in April(extremely unlikely imo).
 
Sep 5, 2018
839
368
Bob Arum, who no longer has any particular connection to the heavyweight division so he can afford to be honest in his assessment, was asked who he thinks is the best heavyweight in the world :

"Tyson Fury is No 1 heavyweight in the world. Without hesitation.”
 
Nov 10, 2014
1,175
405
In an ideal world BOTH of those fights would get made this year, with AJ fighting and beating Wilder, Fury beating a decent opponent in the meantime and those two meeting in August or September.Now is the time, these fights don’t need any more “marination” .But sadly I don’t see AJ fighting either man in 2019.It’s almost like they have no intention of fighting Fury this year whatsoever, even if they get Wilder in April(extremely unlikely imo).
It will be a disgrace if 2019 goes by and neither AJ-Wilder nor AJ-Fury has happened. But don't be surprised.
 
Reactions: Boxfan