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First of all, even though Andy Ruiz was born in USA he identifies himself as a Mexican. Fucking traitor go back to your shithole country if you are so proud of it.
Can't blame the lad for milking it B, who wouldn't in his position. He's king of Mexico now as well as a hero in USA.

Secondly, that about the other Ruiz? John Ruiz, John was always announced as the "1st Mexican Heavweight Champion? John Ruiz was also born in the USA.
Puerto rican not mehican.
 
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Do you consider ODLH to be Mexican or American or Both and what do you think he considers himself?
 
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I'm pretty sure John Ruiz was Puerto Rican.

Andy Ruiz also fought for Mexico in the amateurs. It's a weird dynamic because some Mexicans were born in Mexico but raised in the US while some were born in the US and raised in Mexico. I think Antonio Margarito and Miguel Cotto are also similar in that they were born in the States but raised in their motherland.

Anyways, Ruiz Jr. is Mexican. Both his parents are Mexican, I think. I don't know how it's weird. I know full blooded Germans that were born in the US, and they consider themselves German. It's not wrong or weird. It's having pride in your heritage.

No one is a traitor, get the fuck over it, snowflake.
 
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Fat Andy fought in the 2008 Olympics on the Mexican team.

(Go figure, since he wasn't born there, but he did.)
Jessie Vargas too; although, I don't think Vargas identifies as a Mexican. I remember Andy Ruiz had the Mexican flag on his BoxRec at one point, so I didn't know he was Mexican-American. I legit thought he was born in Mexico like the other HW, Mario Heredia.
 
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He considers himself Mexican-American. It wasn't until I got here, but there are also Mexicans that call themselves "Chicanos." I think that's a California-Mexican thing, though.
 
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I'm pretty sure John Ruiz was Puerto Rican.

Andy Ruiz also fought for Mexico in the amateurs. It's a weird dynamic because some Mexicans were born in Mexico but raised in the US while some were born in the US and raised in Mexico. I think Antonio Margarito and Miguel Cotto are also similar in that they were born in the States but raised in their motherland.

Anyways, Ruiz Jr. is Mexican. Both his parents are Mexican, I think. I don't know how it's weird. I know full blooded Germans that were born in the US, and they consider themselves German. It's not wrong or weird. It's having pride in your heritage.

No one is a traitor, get the fuck over it, snowflake.
Yep...John Ruiz was Puerto Rican.
Andy Ruiz as well as representing Mexico at the olympics, also had his first professional fight in Mexico.

Anyways at Mexi-Box did the Andy Ruiz win get coverage on the News Channels.

What kind of media coverage has this upset received overall in the U.S.A.
 
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I'm pretty sure John Ruiz was Puerto Rican.

Andy Ruiz also fought for Mexico in the amateurs. It's a weird dynamic because some Mexicans were born in Mexico but raised in the US while some were born in the US and raised in Mexico. I think Antonio Margarito and Miguel Cotto are also similar in that they were born in the States but raised in their motherland.

Anyways, Ruiz Jr. is Mexican. Both his parents are Mexican, I think. I don't know how it's weird. I know full blooded Germans that were born in the US, and they consider themselves German. It's not wrong or weird. It's having pride in your heritage.

No one is a traitor, get the fuck over it, snowflake.
 
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He considers himself Mexican-American. It wasn't until I got here, but there are also Mexicans that call themselves "Chicanos." I think that's a California-Mexican thing, though.
I always thought "Chicano" was some outdated terminology from the 60's for Latin Americans, what does it actually mean?

Yeah, Oscar has dual-nationality too I believe, it was more a point that I agree with you that I don't think there's anything particularly wrong in Andy claiming to be the first Mexican HW champ if he considers himself Mexican and American.
 
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I always thought "Chicano" was some outdated terminology from the 60's for Latin Americans, what does it actually mean?

Yeah, Oscar has dual-nationality too I believe, it was more a point that I agree with you that I don't think there's anything particularly wrong in Andy claiming to be the first Mexican HW champ if he considers himself Mexican and American.
Obviously a chic that likes anal. Duh!
 
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Yep...John Ruiz was Puerto Rican.
Andy Ruiz as well as representing Mexico at the olympics, also had his first professional fight in Mexico.

Anyways at Mexi-Box did the Andy Ruiz win get coverage on the News Channels.

What kind of media coverage has this upset received overall in the U.S.A.
He only got a small snippet on my news feed. It wasn't headline or anything. I think he got some coverage on ESPN, but you guys really would hate to see me post a fucking video of that smear merchant, Stephen A.
 
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He only got a small snippet on my news feed. It wasn't headline or anything. I think he got some coverage on ESPN, but you guys really would hate to see me post a fucking video of that smear merchant, Stephen A.
I dont think I wanna see that Stephen A.
 
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Fundamentally impossible. Because we grow up different into different systems and the natural human bias (why I say humans suck) is to justify ones existence over others.