Amir Khan vs. Kell Brook

Khan vs. Brook Winner and How?

  • Amir Khan Stoppage

    Votes: 2 6.7%
  • Amir Khan Decision

    Votes: 6 20.0%
  • Draw

    Votes: 2 6.7%
  • Kell Brook Decision

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Kell Brook Stoppage

    Votes: 20 66.7%

  • Total voters
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Malignaggi? Kotelnik? Madaina, whom he spent three rounds literally running away from? That impresses you? No, Bradley was the man at 140 and universally regarded as such.

After Brook beat Porter, he became part of a three-headed monster which included Errol Spence and Keith Thurman. His performance against Spence, in which he was much more impressive than Khan was against Maidana, showed the he belonged.

He may be forgotten a week after he retires, but so will Amir Khan.
For starters Amir Khan, is famous for being famous in the U.K, and will long remain famous after he retires people who have never seen a boxing match in their lives knopw who Khan is. As For khan running for last thre rounds in his fight with Maidana, dont mean nothing plenty of fighters whose entire style was based on running, the fight between Khan and Maidana was a hell of a fight. if you apply the same criteria, Brook spent the fight with Porter clutching and hugging.

Khan was a unified Champion at 140 when he beat Judah, whatsmore Judah was a repl;acement for Tim Bradley who turned down the fight during negotiations, when he fell out with his Promoter Gary Shaw.

Kell beat Porter yes but as they say" one swallow does not make a summer, " by that criterion Kirkland Laing would be the best British welterweight in the last 40 years he beat a prime Roberto Duran.

If your arguing that Kell Brook is the better fighter I would agree, Kell is the better fighter, more talented fighter, should have had a better career fact is Khan has a better career. Kell is now saying that he is willing to agree to a re-hydration clause well if he agreed to it 2 months ago he would have got the fight. and if he did not demand an unrealistic 50/50 split a few years ago he would have got the fight then. So this projection of Kell as being a victim in all this I dont get, his entire career has revolved around Amir Khan. Biggest case of fatal attraction since Glenn Close lost the plot in the movie vs Michael Douglas.

Khan fighting a better fighter in Terence Crawford, one of the best pound for pound would be pretty good duck.
 

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Yeah, a guy with a record of 35-5, with 4 of his 5 losses in world title fights, 2 of which were against PBF, and with wins over Broner, Corley, Ortiz...who pushed PBF hard in their first bout...he's a journeyman. :lol:
Truly ridiculous isn't it?

I don't even like Khan! The fact I find myself weirdly defending him is testament to the level of insanity in this thread
 

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Yeah, a guy with a record of 35-5, with 4 of his 5 losses in world title fights, 2 of which were against PBF, and with wins over Broner, Corley, Ortiz...who pushed PBF hard in their first bout...he's a journeyman. :lol:
Broner. Corley. Ortiz.

Inspiring stuff.

I don't know what's worse... watching Con run away from punchers inside the ring, or watching him run away from punchers outside the ring.
 

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For starters Amir Khan, is famous for being famous in the U.K, and will long remain famous after he retires people who have never seen a boxing match in their lives knopw who Khan is. As For khan running for last thre rounds in his fight with Maidana, dont mean nothing plenty of fighters whose entire style was based on running, the fight between Khan and Maidana was a hell of a fight. if you apply the same criteria, Brook spent the fight with Porter clutching and hugging.

Khan was a unified Champion at 140 when he beat Judah, whatsmore Judah was a repl;acement for Tim Bradley who turned down the fight during negotiations, when he fell out with his Promoter Gary Shaw.

Kell beat Porter yes but as they say" one swallow does not make a summer, " by that criterion Kirkland Laing would be the best British welterweight in the last 40 years he beat a prime Roberto Duran.

If your arguing that Kell Brook is the better fighter I would agree, Kell is the better fighter, more talented fighter, should have had a better career fact is Khan has a better career. Kell is now saying that he is willing to agree to a re-hydration clause well if he agreed to it 2 months ago he would have got the fight. and if he did not demand an unrealistic 50/50 split a few years ago he would have got the fight then. So this projection of Kell as being a victim in all this I dont get, his entire career has revolved around Amir Khan. Biggest case of fatal attraction since Glenn Close lost the plot in the movie vs Michael Douglas.

Khan fighting a better fighter in Terence Crawford, one of the best pound for pound would be pretty good duck.
It's called risk/reward. Khan has already expressed a willingness to whore himself out for money and is clearly much more willing to take a fight in which there is no actual pressure to win.
 
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Broner. Corley. Ortiz.

Inspiring stuff.

I don't know what's worse... watching Con run away from punchers inside the ring, or watching him run away from punchers outside the ring.
Way to miss the point. A guy who fights for world titles multiple times is not a journeyman. Shit a guy with a 15-10 record is not a journeyman. Maidana won world titles at two different weights. He pushed Mayweather hard in their first bout, and he has only ever lost to fighters who themselves were world champions. To call him a journeyman shows either a complete ignorance about the sport, or it's just being totally biased for the sake of trying to prove a point.

I am not a Khan fan. He has fought numerous guys who can punch and in fact his often foolish bravery and desire to fight back when hurt has cost him on more than one occasion. He is chinny too. So what?
 

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Way to miss the point. A guy who fights for world titles multiple times is not a journeyman. Shit a guy with a 15-10 record is not a journeyman. Maidana won world titles at two different weights. He pushed Mayweather hard in their first bout, and he has only ever lost to fighters who themselves were world champions. To call him a journeyman shows either a complete ignorance about the sport, or it's just being totally biased for the sake of trying to prove a point.

I am not a Khan fan. He has fought numerous guys who can punch and in fact his often foolish bravery and desire to fight back when hurt has cost him on more than one occasion. He is chinny too. So what?
I threw the term journeyman in to ruffle a guy joking about Kell getting his face caved in. My point stands, though. If Kell had only turned his back and run away, he may well have survived Errol Spence Jr.
 
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‼ Amir Khan says he now hopes to fight Kell Brook in March/April. Talks are ongoing and Khan stated that he believes if he faced the version of Brook who beat Michael Zerafa, then he would stop him inside six rounds.

Fuck sake Amir, fight Crawford instead.
 
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For starters Amir Khan, is famous for being famous in the U.K, and will long remain famous after he retires people who have never seen a boxing match in their lives knopw who Khan is. As For khan running for last thre rounds in his fight with Maidana, dont mean nothing plenty of fighters whose entire style was based on running, the fight between Khan and Maidana was a hell of a fight. if you apply the same criteria, Brook spent the fight with Porter clutching and hugging.

Khan was a unified Champion at 140 when he beat Judah, whatsmore Judah was a repl;acement for Tim Bradley who turned down the fight during negotiations, when he fell out with his Promoter Gary Shaw.

Kell beat Porter yes but as they say" one swallow does not make a summer, " by that criterion Kirkland Laing would be the best British welterweight in the last 40 years he beat a prime Roberto Duran.

If your arguing that Kell Brook is the better fighter I would agree, Kell is the better fighter, more talented fighter, should have had a better career fact is Khan has a better career. Kell is now saying that he is willing to agree to a re-hydration clause well if he agreed to it 2 months ago he would have got the fight. and if he did not demand an unrealistic 50/50 split a few years ago he would have got the fight then. So this projection of Kell as being a victim in all this I dont get, his entire career has revolved around Amir Khan. Biggest case of fatal attraction since Glenn Close lost the plot in the movie vs Michael Douglas.

Khan fighting a better fighter in Terence Crawford, one of the best pound for pound would be pretty good duck.
I still think Porter is a better fighter than anybody on Khans record, it still doesn't say much for the wasted talent that is Kell Brook. Amir took more chances in his career, won titles, went to America, bounced back from vicious knockouts and gave us some exciting nights, Im not an Amir Khan fan but that has to be applauded in some sense.
 
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Beating brook makes you p4p now does it?
Brooks standing in the global boxing landscape, even back then, was pitiful
Brooks coming off a win against porter was a legit no.3 at 147, if khan had put on a performance and outclassed him (entirely possible) khan would have entered pound4pound top 10 based off his back to back wins at 147. As crazy as it sounds if khan had fought garcia or even peterson in 2015 and trained his arse off and won, his standing among fans in general would have shot through the roof, if there was ever a fight out there khan should have chased it was both those rematches. If khan fought both of them and won, no one would really care about the whole thing with brook,
 
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If you compare Khan’s run at 140 to Kell’s at 147, Khan by far holds the more impressive legacy. Shit, even the wins during his brief stint at 147 (most of which have been tune-up fights) are miles better than Brook’s wins outside of Porter.

Kell neglected to chase the best at welterweight (to create his own legacy), focusing his energy instead on calling out Khan. For that reason, I don’t blame Khan continuing to troll him and not give him the fight.

Hopefully the Crawford fight materialises. Win or lose, Khan should then settle for retirement - happy that he at least fought the best during his career and made ridiculous money in the process.
 
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I threw the term journeyman in to ruffle a guy joking about Kell getting his face caved in. My point stands, though. If Kell had only turned his back and run away, he may well have survived Errol Spence Jr.
Fair enough mate. I don't think Khan deserves criticism for avoiding punchers personally. His first lost to Prescott was going in with a puncher who albeit crude could clearly dig given his record. He also took on Judah, Maidana, Garcia and of course Canelo. I am bored to tears with his career and wish he'd fuck off and retire, but that's mainly due to his past few years of doing nothing but talk and then fighting either a low level opponent or someone who is just a name but way past their best. The exception was Canelo and that was just for money with a no lose situation in hand.

I'm bored to fuck with Brook too. Jumping up to GGG was stupid and just matching Khan with Canelo...I almost feel he did it just to overshadow Khan, as he seems obsessed with him. Spence...massive respect for that fight, but so much of Brook's career has been wasted treading water that to then see him come back from the Spence fight with two completely pointless fights while STILL harping on about Khan is just annoying as fuck. He looks past his best, and that's his team's fault for allowing the peak physical years of his career to be pissed away in shit fights.

Khan has often got in trouble by standing to fire back, so when badly hurt against Maidana it made sense to "run". The fact is that everyone on here was sneering about how he would get KO'd cold inside a few rounds before that fight and he came out well, got close to winning by stoppage himself, outboxed him very nicely for most of the fight and then took a huge shot and survived it. Yeah...he ran a bit near the end...whatever.

Khan's record absolutely shits on Brook's, even though Brook has the best stand alone win. The issue is that after that win, who is his next best victory? It's probably Dan, and that is fucking woeful for a fighter of Brook's ability, strengths and time in the game.
 

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Fair enough mate. I don't think Khan deserves criticism for avoiding punchers personally. His first lost to Prescott was going in with a puncher who albeit crude could clearly dig given his record. He also took on Judah, Maidana, Garcia and of course Canelo. I am bored to tears with his career and wish he'd fuck off and retire, but that's mainly due to his past few years of doing nothing but talk and then fighting either a low level opponent or someone who is just a name but way past their best. The exception was Canelo and that was just for money with a no lose situation in hand.

I'm bored to fuck with Brook too. Jumping up to GGG was stupid and just matching Khan with Canelo...I almost feel he did it just to overshadow Khan, as he seems obsessed with him. Spence...massive respect for that fight, but so much of Brook's career has been wasted treading water that to then see him come back from the Spence fight with two completely pointless fights while STILL harping on about Khan is just annoying as fuck. He looks past his best, and that's his team's fault for allowing the peak physical years of his career to be pissed away in shit fights.

Khan has often got in trouble by standing to fire back, so when badly hurt against Maidana it made sense to "run". The fact is that everyone on here was sneering about how he would get KO'd cold inside a few rounds before that fight and he came out well, got close to winning by stoppage himself, outboxed him very nicely for most of the fight and then took a huge shot and survived it. Yeah...he ran a bit near the end...whatever.

Khan's record absolutely shits on Brook's, even though Brook has the best stand alone win. The issue is that after that win, who is his next best victory? It's probably Dan, and that is fucking woeful for a fighter of Brook's ability, strengths and time in the game.
Fair enough. I think that Kell finally believed in himself to the point that he was going to redeem his career and give us the fights we wanted, but he choose the wrong fight (GGG at middle) and sadly got most of his prime beaten out of him. Spence finished the job. It's unfortunate, because he was right where he needed to be after the Porter fight.

... You should know by now that I'm just not myself unless I get to hate on someone. Shame on you.
 
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Fair enough. I think that Kell finally believed in himself to the point that he was going to redeem his career and give us the fights we wanted, but he choose the wrong fight (GGG at middle) and sadly got most of his prime beaten out of him. Spence finished the job. It's unfortunate, because he was right where he needed to be after the Porter fight.

... You should know by now that I'm just not myself unless I get to hate on someone. Shame on you.
:lol: @the last bit.

Agreed really. He should have pushed on from the Porter fight, and had he fought Spence when he fought GGG...he might have won. The same concern over the eye would not be there (I know it was a different eye, but that fear evidently came into play) and he would not have jumped two divisions in weight and then cut back down again. He might still have lost, but...if he did then it would be the one loss with the one injury to move past, and he could have just gone straight to light-middle.
 

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:lol: @the last bit.

Agreed really. He should have pushed on from the Porter fight, and had he fought Spence when he fought GGG...he might have won. The same concern over the eye would not be there (I know it was a different eye, but that fear evidently came into play) and he would not have jumped two divisions in weight and then cut back down again. He might still have lost, but...if he did then it would be the one loss with the one injury to move past, and he could have just gone straight to light-middle.
Well, he wanted big money after Porter and just grew impatient. He wanted Khan as badly as he ever had in his life, but Amir was actually directing him to face Errol Spence first. Very high risk fight, and not nearly the reward that he was looking for... but man was it stupid to opt to go up and fight GGG like that.

Would you rather see him face Khan or Jarrett Hurd at this point?
 
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Well, he wanted big money after Porter and just grew impatient. He wanted Khan as badly as he ever had in his life, but Amir was actually directing him to face Errol Spence first. Very high risk fight, and not nearly the reward that he was looking for... but man was it stupid to opt to go up and fight GGG like that.

Would you rather see him face Khan or Jarrett Hurd at this point?
Hurd. I don't give a fuck about seeing a past best Khan vs a best past Brook. I want Khan to do one...so getting wrecked by Crawford and hopefully disappearing would be fine. Brook facing Hurd would at least be giving it a proper go at his new weight, and I think this weight is clearly where he should have been a while ago, and it will tell us if he is genuinely finished at the top flight, or if the last bout was due to a lack of motivation combined with other things.

I also don't want to see Brook vs Khan because it will be touted as two elites in the UK and then sell to all the casuals, and I don't think either of them deserve that praise and money from the mainstream media for how their careers have been handled over the past few years. I never begrudge fighters earning top money, but I can not want to see certain fights due to the way they are engineered.