Andy Ruiz Jr (WBA, IBF, WBO & IBO) vs. Anthony Joshua II - December 7th 2019

Ruiz Jr vs. Joshua Winner and How?

  • Andy Ruiz Jr Stoppage

    Votes: 38 57.6%
  • Andy Ruiz Jr Decision

    Votes: 2 3.0%
  • Draw

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Anthony Joshua Decision

    Votes: 7 10.6%
  • Anthony Joshua Stoppage

    Votes: 19 28.8%

  • Total voters
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Jan 20, 2014
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I'd speculate his career is over if he doesn't beat Ruiz Jr., but let's not forget that Barrera lost twice to Poison Jones and is still a legend. Joshua is clearly a very, very good fighter. Ruiz Jr. might just have his number is all. There aren't a lot of HW's that would take the shots Ruiz Jr. did. Ruiz Jr. has a fucking Wach-level chin. He took some ridiculous shots that would've floored (no MW) several fighters, if not outright stopped them.
You can’t talk about AJ in the same breath as Barrera come on man, that guy could fight and he had the heart of a lion he was Mexican for fuck sake. AJ quit in his corner showing no heart after being totally out classed. That must have been soul destroying.
 
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You can’t talk about AJ in the same breath as Barrera come on man, that guy could fight and he had the heart of a lion he was Mexican for fuck sake. AJ quit in his corner showing no heart after being totally out classed. That must have been soul destroying.
AJ has gotten up off the canvas to beat Klitschko. That takes heart eating shots from, possibly, the hardest puncher the division has ever seen. Not saying AJ will be an ATG or anything, but losses, sometimes even back-to-back, aren't all that career destroying.

It were merely a mention that fighters have come back from facing a foe they could not beat.
 
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AJ has gotten up off the canvas to beat Klitschko. That takes heart eating shots from, possibly, the hardest puncher the division has ever seen. Not saying AJ will be an ATG or anything, but losses, sometimes even back-to-back, aren't all that career destroying.

It were merely a mention that fighters have come back from facing a foe they could not beat.

Hardest puncher the division has ever seen? There is a harder puncher than Klitschko in the division right now...
 
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He went 12 rounds against Parker and won and Parker beat Ruiz so it's doable if he trains right and sticks to a good gameplan.
Styles make fights

I'm not claiming beating Martin was a epic victory (although I did enjoy it), I'm saying if you see someone you can beat with a World title, offer him the big bucks and take it from him? Only an idiot gives up that opportunity!
I did say they shouldn’t. Doesn’t change fact it was a buy. You recall how Martin ended up with the belt?
 

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I did say they shouldn’t. Doesn’t change fact it was a buy. You recall how Martin ended up with the belt?
He didn't buy the belt. He offered the Champion the best deal for a defense. Yeh Martin was a weak Champ who won it on a retirement but Martin was 23-0-1 at the time with 18 KO's. It was simply a smart fight to make sure you got. (I will remind you he defended it 6 times including against Wlad, Parker and Povetkin so even if he got it easier than most he earned it many times over)
 
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Ar558a

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Martin is on the podium with the worst heavyweight champions of all time.
Maybe but even if that's true why is bad to get the belt off him? Surely Wilder should have offered the same as AJ and with the WBC belt on offer to Martin a Unification fight would have beaten AJ's offer then he would have had two belts and AJ would likely never have had the opportunity to fight Wlad for the WBA and IBO titles and then all you AJ haters would have been happy?
 

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Anyone who thinks elite professional sportspeople spend their time thinking about or are motivated by money once their event starts has their head stuck where the sun don't shine. They are there for the contest and more particularly to win the contest. It is first and foremost about the glory that comes with winning.
can't agree more :good

we've got a tennis player over here called nick kyrgios, he was on tv a while ago saying he only plays tennis for a living and he doesn't really enjoy the game.

that caused an uproar, young kids were disgusted, let alone the old pros like laver, saying he's representing his country at the highest level, was born with an ability that most young players would kill for, and he goes on tv and says that.

mike tyson said early in his career that if you say wow i could be rich, i can get on television, well you're in the wrong career. in other words, you better hope they never stick you in here with me.
 

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Anyone who thinks elite professional sportspeople spend their time thinking about or are motivated by money once their event starts has their head stuck where the sun don't shine. They are there for the contest and more particularly to win the contest. It is first and foremost about the glory that comes with winning.

I'm not saying anyone is thinking about the Cash in the ring but having £100m compared to nothing will effect your decisions outside the ring about whether it's worth getting back in. Fighters want to be the Champion, the best, the undisputed all time no1, but this wont be an option for AJ if he loses. His best option will be a serviceable heavyweight in the Top 10 but considering his rise his latter career would pale in comparison to his Olympic Gold and the first 22 fights. He would need the motivation to go on knowing people will ALWAYS think him worse than a little fat guy (that'll be even worse if Fury or Wilder beats Ruiz easily in their inevitable fight). If he hadn't got any cash he would have to accept that humilation, the £100m means he doesn't
 
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Got to favour Ruiz big time if its in MSG

With AJ's chin being so bad he should just drop loads of muscle and just try and outbox Ruiz, if he comes in the same size hes going to gas again
 

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'The Independent understands Sky Sports have already begun preparations for the contest to be staged back at Madison Square Garden'

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/boxing/joshua-vs-ruiz-location-date-anthony-joshua-andy-ruiz-jr-new-york-madison-square-garden-rematch-msg-a8967126.html
For Fuck's sake another shitty 4am start time. If the American PPV didn't rape their viewers for $90 a pop then the 80k at Wembley/Cardiff would be more lucrative but as it is US will always reap more $$$. AJ must be pretty confident he can get the job done as a second straight loss stateside will end any chance of being taken seriously over there (and probably everywhere). I don't understand giving up the natural advantage of Cardiff with all his own fans and the familarity of the training camps that won him the first 22. If it works it we'll be legendary but if it fails it will be seen as naive.
 
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For Fuck's sake another shitty 4am start time. If the American PPV didn't rape their viewers for $90 a pop then the 80k at Wembley/Cardiff would be more lucrative but as it is US will always reap more $$$. AJ must be pretty confident he can get the job done as a second straight loss stateside will end any chance of being taken seriously over there (and probably everywhere). I don't understand giving up the natural advantage of Cardiff with all his own fans and the familarity of the training camps that won him the first 22. If it works it we'll be legendary but if it fails it will be seen as naive.
Because that would be a bitch move and show he’s not confident in beating Andy fucking Ruiz Jr.