Anthony Joshua (WBA, IBF, WBO & IBO) vs. Kubrat Pulev

Joshua vs. Pulev Winner and How?

  • Anthony Joshua Stoppage

    Votes: 13 61.9%
  • Anthony Joshua Decision

    Votes: 5 23.8%
  • Kubrat Pulev Decision

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Kubrat Pulev Stoppage

    Votes: 3 14.3%

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AJ aint giving up the belt and moving further away from Undisputed. Usyk really needs to fight Chisora to show he can beat a decent heavy before challenging for the title. That gives AJ the time to deal with Pulev and the IBF, then fight Usyk in OCt/Nov.
Im telling you whats going to happen it wasnt even a debate its been so obvious from the start, AJ has to give up one belt if he gives the IBF to Pulev he wont get it back for years and Wilder/Fury could get there first, him and Usyk will unify towards the end of the year

Usyk has been mandatory for months why does he need another fight? Joshua has 180 days to fight him or give up the belt
 

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Im telling you whats going to happen it wasnt even a debate its been so obvious from the start, AJ has to give up one belt if he gives the IBF to Pulev he wont get it back for years and Wilder/Fury could get there first, him and Usyk will unify towards the end of the year

Usyk has been mandatory for months why does he need another fight? Joshua has 180 days to fight him or give up the belt
Obvious to you maybe? AJ wants undisputed so why we he give up a belt? There is a rotation system for mandatories which means the IBF is first, so he fights Pulev. The WBO aren't gonna wanna piss of EH when he promotes Usyk as well when if they wait another 90 days they can have AJ v Usyk in tha Autumn. As long as they agree the fight before the 180 days I think the WBO will see the sense in having the big fight as their mandatory rather than fighting a domestic level guy like Chisora to basically hand the title to a guy who has only fought at HW once.
 
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People get stripped, or give up belts. It's hard to maintain multiple mandatories.

That being said, Joshua brings in the most dough, and Matchroom are generally on top of these things for their big earners.

If Joshua does give one up, it's probably planned, and it's probably the WBO.

From what people are saying however. It does seem like we will get Pulev and then Usyk. Or at least Usyk and Joshua are making all the right noises anyway.

Whole it's not a Wilder or Fury fight, that's two good defences. I will be fairly happy with that if we also get Fury- Wilder and Usyk - Chisora/Parker.
 

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People get stripped, or give up belts. It's hard to maintain multiple mandatories.

That being said, Joshua brings in the most dough, and Matchroom are generally on top of these things for their big earners.

If Joshua does give one up, it's probably planned, and it's probably the WBO.

From what people are saying however. It does seem like we will get Pulev and then Usyk. Or at least Usyk and Joshua are making all the right noises anyway.

Whole it's not a Wilder or Fury fight, that's two good defences. I will be fairly happy with that if we also get Fury- Wilder and Usyk - Chisora/Parker.
Hearn and Joshua have both been quoted as saying Joshua will honour the mandatories and it will likely mean Pulev followed by Usyk.
 
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AJ says he wants undisputed. Fact is he has been saying it for two and a half years and has had ample opportunity to make a fight with Wilder for all the belts.
Yeah and he offered him 100m and Wilder said no and fought Brezeale and Ortiz again for like 12m total

The fact that Wilder and Fury fought each other just tells me both see each other as less of a threat than Joshua

Those two might grow some balls now since AJ has lost. But I wouldn't count on it.
 

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People get stripped, or give up belts. It's hard to maintain multiple mandatories.

That being said, Joshua brings in the most dough, and Matchroom are generally on top of these things for their big earners.

If Joshua does give one up, it's probably planned, and it's probably the WBO.

From what people are saying however. It does seem like we will get Pulev and then Usyk. Or at least Usyk and Joshua are making all the right noises anyway.

Whole it's not a Wilder or Fury fight, that's two good defences. I will be fairly happy with that if we also get Fury- Wilder and Usyk - Chisora/Parker.
Joshua v Usyk = Joshua taking on a harder fight than Fury or Wilder. He will likely lose because Usyk is the best in the division. Fury and Wilder will NEVER face usyk
 

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Usyk is more skilled than Fury, 10x more skilled than Wilder, hits harder than fury, has a better chin than Fury and Wilder never been down. He has no fear of any man taking on challenge after challenge unlike fury and Wilder.

You would need to be a Lewis/Holyfield level fighter to stop Usyk.

AJ will lose to him but he will at least put up a good fight. Fury and Wilder would never fight him in a month of sundays

Anyone who thinks Wilder or Fury are on usyks level is a casual.
 
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Obvious to you maybe? AJ wants undisputed so why we he give up a belt? There is a rotation system for mandatories which means the IBF is first, so he fights Pulev. The WBO aren't gonna wanna piss of EH when he promotes Usyk as well when if they wait another 90 days they can have AJ v Usyk in tha Autumn. As long as they agree the fight before the 180 days I think the WBO will see the sense in having the big fight as their mandatory rather than fighting a domestic level guy like Chisora to basically hand the title to a guy who has only fought at HW once.
Joshua has to FIGHT Usyk within 180 days, Eddie Hearn's plan was to get Usyk the WBO then a unification, im not even debating im just telling you whats going to happen Joshua can get his belt back by fighting Usyk next
 

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Listen, 90 days , 180 days the only days that matters is 50 days until Fury gets retired by wilder
 

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Joshua v Usyk = Joshua taking on a harder fight than Fury or Wilder. He will likely lose because Usyk is the best in the division. Fury and Wilder will NEVER face usyk
Hmm we really don't have the evidence at HW to tell whether Usyk can carry on what he showed at Cruiser. Taking AJ or Wilder's power is still an issue even if your certain he outboxes them (Wilder surely as a a dad cat can do that!).

Joshua has to FIGHT Usyk within 180 days, Eddie Hearn's plan was to get Usyk the WBO then a unification, im not even debating im just telling you whats going to happen Joshua can get his belt back by fighting Usyk next
I think you are being a little too literal, the governing bodies issue these things all the time and then some deal is done. This is a debating site, so you can "tell" me all you want but I don't have to agree.
 
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Usyk is more skilled than Fury, 10x more skilled than Wilder, hits harder than fury, has a better chin than Fury and Wilder never been down. He has no fear of any man taking on challenge after challenge unlike fury and Wilder.

You would need to be a Lewis/Holyfield level fighter to stop Usyk.

AJ will lose to him but he will at least put up a good fight. Fury and Wilder would never fight him in a month of sundays

Anyone who thinks Wilder or Fury are on usyks level is a casual.
Usyk is a great cruiserweight but it is yet to be seen how he will go against top level heavyweights.
 
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IMO, Chisora is a worthless fight for Usyk. I'm predicting Chisora will get dominated like he usually does against a guy that doesn't stand and trade with him. It won't answer any questions about Usyk.
I know what you are saying, but it gets him another fight at heavy against a guy that's not too big. It would also be pretty fun to watch.


Additionally, It would sell well in the UK, both guys are popular and well known.

Parker - Usyk is a higher level fight, but it doesn't have the same ready made audience. So couldn't be ppv. Would be a good chief support fight to Joshua or Whyte though.