Anthony Joshua (WBA, IBF, WBO & IBO) vs. Oleksandr Usyk

Joshua vs. Uysk Winner and How?

  • Anthony Joshua Stoppage

    Votes: 16 30.2%
  • Anthony Joshua Decision

    Votes: 2 3.8%
  • Oleksandr Usyk Decision

    Votes: 21 39.6%
  • Oleksandr Usyk Stoppage

    Votes: 14 26.4%

  • Total voters
    53

Ar558a

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So because they have the same promoter they should never meet?
I'm not saying that but it is easier for EH certainly if it is commission ordered so he doesn't have to jeopardise his relationship with either fighter. Must be the same for any promoter with contenders/champions in same div.
 
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I don't think Joshua's size will be tricky. I think it'll just be the power. I can't see anyone outboxing Usyk. I think the only way Joshua will win is if he lands that picture-perfect shot.

I mean who is the only one that made Usyk look human? Briedis (the version that fought Usyk) was a fucking monster himself at the time. The bigger, less athletic Gassiev barely touched Usyk.
Tony Bellew made Usyk look human for several rounds until he remembered he was a semi retired celebrity boxer mid way through the fight.
 
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I'm not saying that but it is easier for EH certainly if it is commission ordered so he doesn't have to jeopardise his relationship with either fighter. Must be the same for any promoter with contenders/champions in same div.
That AJ might lose a title not a good enough reason? Because that is where things seem to be headed.
 
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The reason AJ vs Usyk wont happen next is because if Pulev gets hold of that IBF hes going to defend it against nobodies for about 2-3 years then cash out and retire
 
Aug 28, 2014
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The IBF won't let you do that
True but the next in line is Kownacki then Kayabel so Pulev should beat whichever one becomes mandatory then we have to see next in line, if Usyk goes for the WBO and Andy Ruiz fights a PBC fighter it will be Michael Hunter after that, the IBF line up is weak
 
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One Man

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Jul 13, 2018
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If they both win next the winner of them is still undisputed.
You dont need the fucking WBO to tell you that.
 

Bob Weaver

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Jul 6, 2019
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Usyk has been pushing for this since the start. His team really want him to fight for the belt ASAP.

Eddie has been saying that since he became mandatory.

I don't think he wants a long career at heavyweight. It also seems he is starting to get a lot of injuries.

I would do the same thing in his position. No point taking stupid risks. Go for the belt and the money while you can. He doesn't owe Fury or Joshua anything.
 
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Well they're both with Matchroom so I'd expect Eddie to be able to sort that out, in the grand scheme of things that seems to me the least of the problems. If Eddie can't get Usyk to keep quiet I'd be surprised.
 

Bob Weaver

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Well they're both with Matchroom so I'd expect Eddie to be able to sort that out, in the grand scheme of things that seems to me the least of the problems. If Eddie can't get Usyk to keep quiet I'd be surprised.
Eddie is only co-promoter. Usyk has his own promoter and manager. He also knows his own mind

Will be a difficult one to manage if they are hell bent on enforcement.
 
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Joshua wins on Dec 12th.
Fury wins on Dec 19th.

They hold a joint press conference on January 1st announcing their intention to meet in 2021.
They relinquish their WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO and IBO Titles.
Introducing a new Undisputed HW Title...
 
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Eddie is only co-promoter. Usyk has his own promoter and manager. He also knows his own mind

Will be a difficult one to manage if they are hell bent on enforcement.
Ah I didn't realise he was in a co-promotional deal, the other half of his promo team any good? Because they might have to work solo if Usyk isn't going to cooperate..

I'll be honest, I didn't know (and I'm still unsure as to whether this is actually the norm) that a lower divisional champ moving up could be mandatory in his 3rd fight at the weight class, normally it's an immediate shot he's moving up for and I thought if he didn't take it immediately he had to climb up like everyone else. This is rather irritating but perhaps the WBO would permit the undisputed fight in spite of Usyk's bellyaching
 

Bob Weaver

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Ah I didn't realise he was in a co-promotional deal, the other half of his promo team any good? Because they might have to work solo if Usyk isn't going to cooperate..

I'll be honest, I didn't know (and I'm still unsure as to whether this is actually the norm) that a lower divisional champ moving up could be mandatory in his 3rd fight at the weight class, normally it's an immediate shot he's moving up for and I thought if he didn't take it immediately he had to climb up like everyone else. This is rather irritating but perhaps the WBO would permit the undisputed fight in spite of Usyk's bellyaching
It's K2, the Klitschkos.

He's also got some Ukrainian manager.


It's the norm for WBO champs to be made mandatory if they move up. When that mandatory is called us subject to all the usual boxing politics.

I hope it can get sorted and we see the undisputed fight, but I'm not so sure. Maybe they are just angling for a decent step aside and aguarantee that they will be next for the winner.
 
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It's K2, the Klitschkos.

He's also got some Ukrainian manager.


It's the norm for WBO champs to be made mandatory if they move up. When that mandatory is called us subject to all the usual boxing politics.

I hope it can get sorted and we see the undisputed fight, but I'm not so sure. Maybe they are just angling for a decent step aside and aguarantee that they will be next for the winner.
What do you think about what @wesshaw1985 suggested? I'm good if the belts go in the trash and they just duke it out. Floyd used to drop belts and refuse to pay sanctioning for his opponent's belt and we all agreed that he was number 1 in the world, belt or no belt. If the belts are going to cause us all this headache I'm all for a fight with no belts, just the RING on the line and lineal
 

Bob Weaver

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What do you think about what @wesshaw1985 suggested? I'm good if the belts go in the trash and they just duke it out. Floyd used to drop belts and refuse to pay sanctioning for his opponent's belt and we all agreed that he was number 1 in the world, belt or no belt. If the belts are going to cause us all this headache I'm all for a fight with no belts, just the RING on the line and lineal
I would prefer all the belts on the line, but I don't really care.

It's a great fight and whoever wins is the clear best in the division. We'd all watch it even if there are no belts.

I can understand why the fighters would like to be undisputed, but for the fans it's less of an issue.