What's your opinion of Antifa?

  • They fight for a good cause. They're good.

    Votes: 8 10.7%
  • I don't know.

    Votes: 2 2.7%
  • I don't like them.

    Votes: 35 46.7%
  • I hate them, because i'm a fascist. Heil Hitler

    Votes: 30 40.0%

  • Total voters
    75
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On Wednesday, the Anti-Defamation League released a report finding that attackers with ties to right-wing extremist movements killed at least 50 people in 2018. That was close to the total number of Americans killed by domestic extremists, meaning that the far right had an almost absolute monopoly on lethal terrorism in the United States last year. That monopoly would be total if, in one case, the perpetrator had not “switched from white supremacist to radical Islamist beliefs prior to committing the murder.”

The number of fatalities is 35 percent higher than the previous year, and it marks the fourth-deadliest year for such attacks since 1970. In fact, according to the ADL, white supremacists are responsible for the majority of such attacks “almost every year.” The 2018 attacks include the one at Pittsburgh’s Tree of Life synagogue by a man who blamed Jews for the migrant caravan, the mass shooting at a yoga studio by an “incel” obsessed with interracial dating, and the school massacre in Parkland, Florida, carried out by a student who wished that “all the Jews were dead.”

From 2009 through 2018, right-wing extremists accounted for 73 percent of such killings, according to the ADL, compared with 23 percent for Islamists and 3 percent for left-wing extremists.
@Strike already debunked this a few pages ago you absolute fuckin balloon.
 
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No, it isn't easy. What are you now telling the baker who got up at 3AM every day of the week to grow his business, for years? Too bad?

This is the problem with you lefties. You act in absence of thought. That's what destroyed every communist empire you ever tried to build.
No one would have to build a business single handedly though.
Again,
Are you happy with 1 man one vote in your political life? Why would you not want to extend that to your work life?
Why are you happy with the dictatorship of capitalism in your economic life?
 
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@Strike already debunked this a few pages ago you absolute fuckin balloon.
Aye, although it is worth pointing out that it was exaggerated rather than fabricated. The far right were still responsible for far more killings and attacks than any other terrorist ideology in the US. Which makes the blatant exaggeration of the figures even more bizarre, as there was no need to do so in order to make their case.

Worth noting that in Germany, any attack believed to be anti-Semitic was (up until recently at least, and possibly still is) recorded as far-right, even when the person conducting the attack was a Muslim. Technically many Muslims are pretty right wing, but it's at best sloppy and at worst deceitful to label Muslim perpetrated attacks on Jews as "far right", when far right is synonymous with white supremacist in most people's consciousness.
 
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Dazl1212

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Technically many Muslims are pretty right wing, but it's at best sloppy and at worst deceitful to label Muslim perpetrated attacks on Jews as "far right", when far right is synonymous with white supremacist in most people's consciousness.
Which makes the playing down of the threat from Islamic extremism by many of the so called left bizarre..
 
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Dazl1212

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I didn't ask u to explain anything?
No, you didn't but you implied some people were far right and pretending they're were moderates. I asked you to quiz me on my beliefs to see if I fell under this category. So Bachefach quoted my post and asked me to explain Marxs theory on labor value.
 
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Aye, although it is worth pointing out that it was exaggerated rather than fabricated. The far right were still responsible for far more killings and attacks than any other terrorist ideology in the US. Which makes the blatant exaggeration of the figures even more bizarre, as there was no need to do so in order to make their case.

Worth noting that in Germany, any attack believed to be anti-Semitic was (up until recently at least, and possibly still is) recorded as far-right, even when the person conducting the attack was a Muslim. Technically many Muslims are pretty right wing, but it's at best sloppy and at worst deceitful to label Muslim perpetrated attacks on Jews as "far right", when far right is synonymous with white supremacist in most people's consciousness.
It's at best disingenuous and at worst a complete misrepresentation of the reality.

My annoyance is that "they" post this stuff like it's authoritative and they've just provided incontrovertible evidence of the rise of the Nazis, you cite specific examples which show the data they are using can't realistically be defined as "far right extremism" and they just ignore this and go on to post the same fucking shite a few pages later.

I'm sorry, I can't take that report seriously in any way the minute it's shown to be as compromised as it is.

Is there far-right extremism, of course... is there extremism on the left and from the religious, of course... is it at the crisis levels which these groups present it? Doubt it.

Devon Tracey did a video recently on a young black lad who brutally beat and raped a white girl in NY or somewhere, following the rape he told his mate that he did and she deserved it because of slavery... this isn't indicative of anything in particular but will it be listed in the ADLs statistics for hate crime?
Probably not.

If you reversed the races, would it be in there... yes I think it would, front and centre.
 
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No, you didn't but you implied some people were far right and pretending they're were moderates. I asked you to quiz me on my beliefs to see if I fell under this category. So Bachefach quoted my post and asked me to explain Marxs theory on labor value.
I don't need to quiz anyone. If u are coming from a far right perspective,be honest about it. Don't hide behind being a centrist to point score..... Not u in particular
 

Dazl1212

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I don't need to quiz anyone. If u are coming from a far right perspective,be honest about it. Don't hide behind being a centrist to point score..... Not u in particular
I'm interested in what you personally define as far right.
 

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@Strike already debunked this few pages ago you absolute fuckin balloon.
Omg the chud called me a balloon. Have your butt buddy centrist debunk these Tommy Robinson.

Man yells, "Make America Great Again!" Before shooting 6 people dead. * Man wearing, "Make America Great Again" hat murders 2 strangers for no reason. * A Trump supporter murders 2 police officers because they told him he couldn't wave a Confederate flag at a high school football game. * Two men beat a homeless man with a metal bar and urinate on him screaming, “Donald Trump was right, all these illegals need to be deported,” When asked for a comment about the incident Trump defends them saying, "My supporters are very passionate. They love this country and they want this country to be great again." * Trump supporter attacks a Hispanic man and a Muslim student at a gas station while yelling, "Trump! Trump! Trump!" * Trump supporter stabs a black man unprovoked because he was holding hands with a white woman, tells police they need to release him so he can attend a Trump rally that night. * Trump supporter attacks Muslim woman at airport. * A Trump supporter punches a 70 year old protester in the face. * Trump supporter arrested for brutally beating protester. * 3 Trump supporters arrested planning terrorist attack to kill Muslims. * Trump supporter confuses an Indian man for a Muslim at restaurant and says, "Things are different now, I don't want you sand nggers sitting next to me." Before attacking the man. * "We got a new President you fucking fggots." Men yell as they attack gay man. * Trump supporters track down and brutally beat an artist because she made a painting of Trump with a small penis. * Trump supporter who sucker punched protester: “Next time, we might have to kill them.” * Trump is asked to comment on his supporters brutally beating a black man, he responds with, “He was obnoxious! Maybe he should have been roughed up,” * "You fucking and *, We voted for Trump. Trump's building a wall, ****, and you'll be going back to where you belong." Man yells at black elementary school children unprovoked before he swerves his car at them attempting to hit them. * Trump supporter assaults woman at rally and then says he wouldn't of done it if Trump didn't inspire him to attack her. * Trump supporter recognizes famous anti-Trump playwright, walks up to him in a restaurant and says, “Sieg Heil! Fuck you, you Jew cunts, we’re gonna kill all of you." before attacking him. * Trump supporters beat black man so badly he’s hospitalized for concussion and call him the n-word. * Trump supporter pepper sprays a 15-year-old girl point-blank in the face after another Trump supporter groped her breasts, shouting “ngger lover” as she attempted to run away. * Trump supporter walks up to a black man in the middle of a downtown area and says, "Donald Trump will deport you." Before punching the black man. * “Trump is going to win and if you don’t like it I’m going to beat your ass,” Trump supporter yells at random black woman outside of convenient store. * Man attacks and kicks Muslim airport employee shouting, "Trump is here now, he will get rid of all of you." * In 8 months Trump supporters attacked protesters at 20 different rallies. * Trump supporter tracks down a local Latino Democratic political candidate and tries to run him and his elderly mother over with a car. (The Latino candidate is also a former marine.) * "This is for Donald Trump!" man yells as he runs up a Latino person and punches them in the head. * Trump supporter goes to Hillary Clinton rally to disrupt the event, ends up punching someone when asked to leave. * Trump supporter punches, chokes and slaps protesters on video during rally. * An angry mob of Trump supporters brutally beat and grab a mans genitals because he held up a, "Republicans Against Trump" sign. * A Trump supporter yells, "Get your black kids out of here. Do you even have a job? Do you know what a job is, ngger?" Before physically attacking a black man who had come to the hospital to get help for his sick 2 week old daughter. * Local Republican Politician sexually assaults a woman by, "grabbing her pussy." and then says he is allowed to do it because now that Trump is president he doesn't have to be politically correct. * Canadian man who was a vocal Trump supporter both online and in person goes into a mosque and murders 6 people. * Trump supporter physically assaults Comedian on stage for making Anti-Trump Joke. * Man yells, "Trump" while beating African immigrant cab driver. * A Trump supporter is arrested for burning a Mosque down. * Man slashes victims with machete while yelling racial slurs * Alt Reich member stabs black man to death * Portland man stabs two for interfering with racial harassment * Bomb making material found in Neo Nazi apartment

* Native American run over by truck in racial attack * Chistian Woman leads 30 churchgoers in beating of gay man * Chicago man yells about slavery and berates a man before punching him * Kansas man shoots Indian ; charged with hatecrime * SC man sets fire to Muslim teenager memorial in DC; teenager was murdered and thrown in pond * White nationalist tries to run over protesters on motorcycle * Man who beat black man and runs him over say he isn't racist * Cops arrest man who clubb ed woman and vandalized Jewish center * Trump Supporter Wearing 'MAGA' Hat Attacked Three People Near Dupont Circle * Neo-Nazi attacks man driving pedicab because of the shirt he wore * A suspected white supremacist pulled an AK-47 out on a Black man, but it didn't go as planned * Black teen beaten by white supremacists * Suspect bombs Mosque in Minn * Man accosts woman after being questioned about flying a Nazi Flag * Rightwing extremist planned to blow up building * Teen caught vandalizing holocaust memorial * KKK leader threatens to burn black journalist * White supremacist runs down protesters in an act of domestic terrorism * Man admits to lying to police about Antifa stabbing him * Man Wearing 'Make America Great Again' Shirt Arrested After Attacking New Jersey Volunteer: Police * Racists attempt to lynch 8 year old bi-racial boy * Trump supporter runs over sleeping homeless people, killing one * White nationalist tries to run over protesters in Vancouver, WA
 
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Omg the chud called me a balloon. Have your butt buddy centrist debunk these Tommy Robinson.

Man yells, "Make America Great Again!" Before shooting 6 people dead. * Man wearing, "Make America Great Again" hat murders 2 strangers for no reason. * A Trump supporter murders 2 police officers because they told him he couldn't wave a Confederate flag at a high school football game. * Two men beat a homeless man with a metal bar and urinate on him screaming, “Donald Trump was right, all these illegals need to be deported,” When asked for a comment about the incident Trump defends them saying, "My supporters are very passionate. They love this country and they want this country to be great again." * Trump supporter attacks a Hispanic man and a Muslim student at a gas station while yelling, "Trump! Trump! Trump!" * Trump supporter stabs a black man unprovoked because he was holding hands with a white woman, tells police they need to release him so he can attend a Trump rally that night. * Trump supporter attacks Muslim woman at airport. * A Trump supporter punches a 70 year old protester in the face. * Trump supporter arrested for brutally beating protester. * 3 Trump supporters arrested planning terrorist attack to kill Muslims. * Trump supporter confuses an Indian man for a Muslim at restaurant and says, "Things are different now, I don't want you sand nggers sitting next to me." Before attacking the man. * "We got a new President you fucking fggots." Men yell as they attack gay man. * Trump supporters track down and brutally beat an artist because she made a painting of Trump with a small penis. * Trump supporter who sucker punched protester: “Next time, we might have to kill them.” * Trump is asked to comment on his supporters brutally beating a black man, he responds with, “He was obnoxious! Maybe he should have been roughed up,” * "You fucking and , We voted for Trump. Trump's building a wall, ***, and you'll be going back to where you belong." Man yells at black elementary school children unprovoked before he swerves his car at them attempting to hit them. * Trump supporter assaults woman at rally and then says he wouldn't of done it if Trump didn't inspire him to attack her. * Trump supporter recognizes famous anti-Trump playwright, walks up to him in a restaurant and says, “Sieg Heil! Fuck you, you Jew cunts, we’re gonna kill all of you." before attacking him. * Trump supporters beat black man so badly he’s hospitalized for concussion and call him the n-word. * Trump supporter pepper sprays a 15-year-old girl point-blank in the face after another Trump supporter groped her breasts, shouting “ngger lover” as she attempted to run away. * Trump supporter walks up to a black man in the middle of a downtown area and says, "Donald Trump will deport you." Before punching the black man. * “Trump is going to win and if you don’t like it I’m going to beat your ass,” Trump supporter yells at random black woman outside of convenient store. * Man attacks and kicks Muslim airport employee shouting, "Trump is here now, he will get rid of all of you." * In 8 months Trump supporters attacked protesters at 20 different rallies. * Trump supporter tracks down a local Latino Democratic political candidate and tries to run him and his elderly mother over with a car. (The Latino candidate is also a former marine.) * "This is for Donald Trump!" man yells as he runs up a Latino person and punches them in the head. * Trump supporter goes to Hillary Clinton rally to disrupt the event, ends up punching someone when asked to leave. * Trump supporter punches, chokes and slaps protesters on video during rally. * An angry mob of Trump supporters brutally beat and grab a mans genitals because he held up a, "Republicans Against Trump" sign. * A Trump supporter yells, "Get your black kids out of here. Do you even have a job? Do you know what a job is, ngger?" Before physically attacking a black man who had come to the hospital to get help for his sick 2 week old daughter. * Local Republican Politician sexually assaults a woman by, "grabbing her pussy." and then says he is allowed to do it because now that Trump is president he doesn't have to be politically correct. * Canadian man who was a vocal Trump supporter both online and in person goes into a mosque and murders 6 people. * Trump supporter physically assaults Comedian on stage for making Anti-Trump Joke. * Man yells, "Trump" while beating African immigrant cab driver. * A Trump supporter is arrested for burning a Mosque down. * Man slashes victims with machete while yelling racial slurs * Alt Reich member stabs black man to death * Portland man stabs two for interfering with racial harassment * Bomb making material found in Neo Nazi apartment

* Native American run over by truck in racial attack * Chistian Woman leads 30 churchgoers in beating of gay man * Chicago man yells about slavery and berates a man before punching him * Kansas man shoots Indian ; charged with hatecrime * SC man sets fire to Muslim teenager memorial in DC; teenager was murdered and thrown in pond * White nationalist tries to run over protesters on motorcycle * Man who beat black man and runs him over say he isn't racist * Cops arrest man who clubb ed woman and vandalized Jewish center * Trump Supporter Wearing 'MAGA' Hat Attacked Three People Near Dupont Circle * Neo-Nazi attacks man driving pedicab because of the shirt he wore * A suspected white supremacist pulled an AK-47 out on a Black man, but it didn't go as planned * Black teen beaten by white supremacists * Suspect bombs Mosque in Minn * Man accosts woman after being questioned about flying a Nazi Flag * Rightwing extremist planned to blow up building * Teen caught vandalizing holocaust memorial * KKK leader threatens to burn black journalist * White supremacist runs down protesters in an act of domestic terrorism * Man admits to lying to police about Antifa stabbing him * Man Wearing 'Make America Great Again' Shirt Arrested After Attacking New Jersey Volunteer: Police * Racists attempt to lynch 8 year old bi-racial boy * Trump supporter runs over sleeping homeless people, killing one * White nationalist tries to run over protesters in Vancouver, WA
 
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Literally like a paragraph Chud.
Use Google to fanboy over Marx if you want, you then posted some stupid fucking video justifying an attack on a journalist who the twitter user called "Proud-Boys Friendly", you're such a fucking joke...

btw, I clicked at random on your wall of hate and got this story.
https://bangordailynews.com/2016/11/21/news/bangor/council-members-denounce-alleged-pro-trump-attack-as-hate-crime/

A man got punched by a drunk man and the drunk man said "watch out or Trump will deport you", it was alleged in the story that he was attacked purely for the colour of his skin... no evidence of this though, maybe he was, maybe they just got into an argument ... we don't know what led to the man throwing a punch at another man... but HATE CRIME.

They also said "The reported Trump-related assault is a first for Bangor, Other than this complaint, we have had no reports of similar incidents,” ... what an epidemic eh, I'm 100% sure that in the 350 mil population of the US that we never hear of a black man punching a white man and saying something about his race after the punch is thrown. I'm sure that every instance of this justifies a news article and inclusion on the FBI hate crime statistics.

That was one story picked blind, I'm replying to not another one of them. You don't argue in good faith, I don't even think you believe the shit that pours from your mouth and I'm not interested in your stupid leftist memes or fantasies about what Communism is.