What's your opinion of Antifa?

  • They fight for a good cause. They're good.

    Votes: 9 11.8%
  • I don't know.

    Votes: 2 2.6%
  • I don't like them.

    Votes: 35 46.1%
  • I hate them, because i'm a fascist. Heil Hitler

    Votes: 30 39.5%

  • Total voters
    76

Dazl1212

Ripley, strong independent woman who don't no man
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Race is a social construct for which we cant define accurately. The biological difference between local populations of people is too varied.


There have been plenty of groups throughout history that have functioned without a hierarchy. Even in societies such as the plains indians or mongolians hierarchy was extremely fluid. If hierarchies were natural why do societies and civilizations fall with such regularity? Why are humans seemingly predisposed to not obey orders. Why do governments have to force people to conform? Hell most ancient societies spent a considerable amount of time just getting kids to listen to their parents.

It gets even more muddied when you add a racial aspect into it eh?



They arent Nazis. Id compare them to the eugenicists and race realists who influenced the Nazis though
Ethnicities then.

I don't know of any society without some kind of dominance hiararchy. I'll look into the ones you mentioned but even still it seems to be the exception rather than the norm. Having said all this every person is different. For instance I have a real issue with doing as I'm told. But I like the fact that in my (and most other) society murder is rare because its illegal for instance.

Societies fail for a variety of reason, outside influences from a more technologically advanced civilization, natural disasters, war, famine etc.
 
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Bachafach

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AG Barr said there must be 'zero tolerance for resisting police' and went after 'social justice reformers' in a heated speech to the US' largest law enforcement organization
Sonam Sheth

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william barr 2
AP Photo/Andrew Harnik
  • Attorney General William Barr gave a heated speech about being tough on crime to the Fraternal Order of Police (FOP) this week.
  • FOP is the US' largest fraternal police organization.
  • After praising the bravery of police officers, Barr went on to say public figures in the media and elsewhere should "underscore the need to 'Comply first, and, if warranted, complain later.'"
  • "And those who resist must be prosecuted for that crime," Barr added. "We must have zero tolerance for resisting police. This will save lives."
  • His rhetoric comes when law enforcement is under heightened scrutiny in the US over allegations of systemic brutality and bigotry in some communities.
  • Barr also singled out local prosecutors who he criticized for being "social justice reformers" and soft on crime.
  • Visit BusinessInsider.com for more stories.
Attorney General William Barr delivered an emotionally charged speech defending law enforcement this week to the Fraternal Order of Police (FOP) for its 64th Biennial Conference in New Orleans, Louisiana. FOP is the US' largest fraternal police organization.
"To my mind, there is no more noble profession than serving as a police officer," Barr said. "You put your own life and well-being on the line to protect your communities."
He added: "Your families spend anxious nights, so we can sleep in peace. You never know what your day may bring — what uncertainty, danger, or threat you might face. But you still get up, put on your uniform and badge, kiss your loved ones, and head out to face whatever risks might come your way."

But Barr went on to say that police officers are "fighting a different type of war ... an unrelenting, never-ending fight against criminal predators in our society."
Read more:FBI agents are livid that Trump is amplifying 'bulls--- theories' about Jeffrey Epstein's death 'that have no basis in reality'
"Even in a healthy society, violence, lawlessness, and predation lie just below the surface," the attorney general said. "In the final analysis, what stands between chaos and carnage on the one hand, and the civilized and tranquil society we all yearn for is the thin blue line of law enforcement. You are the ones manning the ramparts — day in, and day out."
After telling the crowd that "we need to get back to basics," Barr said that public figures in the media and elsewhere should "underscore the need to 'Comply first, and, if warranted, complain later.'"

 
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Thats alot of dancing, gonna call you Ali. You are the greatest.
Most of the Muslim world don't speak Arabic, but your video has presenters who use that as a reason to mock Harris' concerns with Islamic scripture. It's pathetic. That said, looking into that podcast more, it's extremely poor from Harris to just accept the very flawed Bell Curve work as some universally accepted hard science.

Just two facts alone should immediately show someone the limitations to the data in the Bell Curve.

1. Average US IQ's now are higher than 70 years ago. There was an average 18 point gain from 1948 to 2002... that's clearly not some huge evolutionary leap, it's environmental.

2. The 15 point gap between black and white people, noted in the Bell Curve, has reduced to a 10 point gap. At this rate, it will be down to 5 points in 20 years. Clearly not innate then, and once again points towards environmental influences.

If the average black IQ now is half the difference of the average gap between the US general population of today and that of 1948 then that's your biological link gone.

It's actually pathetic that Harris would not look more deeply into the holes in Murray's work, and he seems to have allowed himself to be blinded by the issue of someone being deplatformed and misrepresented as hateful, rather than doing his job as an impartial interviewer who is rational and sceptical.

Some good articles on these flaws and the above data here:

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/3/27/15695060/sam-harris-charles-murray-race-iq-forbidden-knowledge-podcast-bell-curve

https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2017/5/18/15655638/charles-murray-race-iq-sam-harris-science-free-speech
 
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AG Barr said there must be 'zero tolerance for resisting police' and went after 'social justice reformers' in a heated speech to the US' largest law enforcement organization
Sonam Sheth

22m
william barr 2
AP Photo/Andrew Harnik
  • Attorney General William Barr gave a heated speech about being tough on crime to the Fraternal Order of Police (FOP) this week.
  • FOP is the US' largest fraternal police organization.
  • After praising the bravery of police officers, Barr went on to say public figures in the media and elsewhere should "underscore the need to 'Comply first, and, if warranted, complain later.'"
  • "And those who resist must be prosecuted for that crime," Barr added. "We must have zero tolerance for resisting police. This will save lives."
  • His rhetoric comes when law enforcement is under heightened scrutiny in the US over allegations of systemic brutality and bigotry in some communities.
  • Barr also singled out local prosecutors who he criticized for being "social justice reformers" and soft on crime.
  • Visit BusinessInsider.com for more stories.
Attorney General William Barr delivered an emotionally charged speech defending law enforcement this week to the Fraternal Order of Police (FOP) for its 64th Biennial Conference in New Orleans, Louisiana. FOP is the US' largest fraternal police organization.
"To my mind, there is no more noble profession than serving as a police officer," Barr said. "You put your own life and well-being on the line to protect your communities."
He added: "Your families spend anxious nights, so we can sleep in peace. You never know what your day may bring — what uncertainty, danger, or threat you might face. But you still get up, put on your uniform and badge, kiss your loved ones, and head out to face whatever risks might come your way."

But Barr went on to say that police officers are "fighting a different type of war ... an unrelenting, never-ending fight against criminal predators in our society."
Read more:FBI agents are livid that Trump is amplifying 'bulls--- theories' about Jeffrey Epstein's death 'that have no basis in reality'
"Even in a healthy society, violence, lawlessness, and predation lie just below the surface," the attorney general said. "In the final analysis, what stands between chaos and carnage on the one hand, and the civilized and tranquil society we all yearn for is the thin blue line of law enforcement. You are the ones manning the ramparts — day in, and day out."
After telling the crowd that "we need to get back to basics," Barr said that public figures in the media and elsewhere should "underscore the need to 'Comply first, and, if warranted, complain later.'"


He is spot on.
 

Bachafach

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Boris Johnson is whipping up white, middle-class fear to enforce a racist policing agenda. It must be resisted
The prime minister’s vow to ‘come down hard on crime' is just code for the further policing and criminalisation of working-class black communities


Boris Johnson is whipping up white, middle-class fear to enforce a racist policing agenda. It must be resisted

The prime minister’s vow to ‘come down hard on crime' is just code for the further policing and criminalisation of working-class black communities



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We’re living in terrifying times, according to the current government. Which, to be fair, isn’t entirely untrue. British politics is becoming more incomprehensible by the day; ever-unattainable climate emergency measures have cast a shadow over our already tenuous future; migrants are dying in droves at the hands of world leaders; we seem to be edging closer towards the threat of a global recession with every reactionary move authoritarian politicians make. And, of course, with the announcement of ever more divisive policies and political manoeuvres over Brexit, there is that grim reminder that Boris Johnson, Boris Johnson, is prime minister.
To the voters the Conservative Party is trying to appeal to, however, nothing is quite as scary as the prospect of the faceless, fearless, hooded menaces the government has wasted no time branding public enemy number one. To the minds of those voters, these youths, or, taking a leaf out of Hilary Clinton’s book – “superpredators” – are the real reason the country is going down the drain.

And those are precisely the people Johnson’s vow to “come down hard on crime”, with an announcement of an extra 10,000 new places in prisons and the extension of stop and search powers, will woo. Even if the man for the job is in the midst of doggedly tearing apart the very fabric of democracy with his ruthless pursuit of no-deal Brexit.


Writing in the Mail on Sunday, the prime minister expressed his wishes to “reverse the balance of fear. I want the criminals to be afraid – not the public.”

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In: Jacob Rees-Mogg

In: Esther McVey

In: Jo Johnson

In: Brandon Lewis

But given the number of black people disproportionately targeted by police through stop and search, it’s not exactly clear who the prime minister thinks the “public” really is. What is clear, is whose fear the government takes seriously over others.
Last year, The Independent reported black people in England and Wales were nine times more likely than white people to be searched, while months earlier, deaths in police custody reached a 10-year high, with many of those who died having had “mental health concerns”, according to the Independent Office for Police Conduct. These are literally matters of life and death – that have only been exacerbated by the Tories and who are now promising to harden their stance even further. It seems the people affected by these injustices aren’t worth listening to.

The faceless “thugs” Johnson alludes to in his article, are supposedly the real issue to tackle. They are “insolent”, apparently, roaming around by the dozens, brash and cocky, taking over entire cities and defacing public property with their graffiti. They are polluting the air with their violent drill music, stabbing random members of the public and police officers at will as meek, white, middle-class Britain cowers from the relative safety of its homes.
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To these “upstanding” people, the ones who overwhelmingly balk at the idea of having a Muslim prime minister – those who care not about the “significant damage to the UK economy” that a no-deal Brexit will undoubtedly cause – the only way to deal with this onslaught of criminal activity is to go nuclear.

Never mind the evidence that proves doing so does nothing to curb it. Never mind too, the wellbeing of the young people caught up in that violence, most of whom will not remotely benefit from being targeted by the state as well as the threats that await them on the streets.
The prime minister’s preoccupation with fear, like Priti Patel’s – “Quite frankly, with more police officers out there and greater police presence, I want [criminals] to literally feel terror at the thought of committing offences” – is interesting, given Johnson’s derision of “the agents of Project Fear” during the 2016 Leave campaign.

Apparently, when it comes to winning votes, the only anxieties that matter are the ones based on fabrications and galvanised by racially and ethnically coded language. Imprisoned people who are already grappling with worsening conditions, overcrowding, increased rates of self-harm and a lack of support once they’ve left the criminal justice system, need not have their fears respected. Even if being consulted about addressing issues in prison leads to improvements, as the Prison Reform Trust has shown can be done
 

Deebo

"Messkin" Deebo
Jun 5, 2013
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Show dem balls bro
I understand but it's too much multimedia overload.

If I didn't have to work this stupid full time job and could just mooch off my parents I might be able to keep up with it the next few days when I wake up between 12 noon and 5 PM.
 

Johnstown

Dominant Poster
Jun 4, 2013
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I understand but it's too much multimedia overload.

If I didn't have to work this stupid full time job and could just mooch off my parents I might be able to keep up with it the next few days when I wake up between 12 noon and 5 PM.
MW is a school teacher dummy.

He has summers off.
 

Johnstown

Dominant Poster
Jun 4, 2013
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I understand but it's too much multimedia overload.

If I didn't have to work this stupid full time job and could just mooch off my parents I might be able to keep up with it the next few days when I wake up between 12 noon and 5 PM.
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