Anyone do the intermittent fasting?

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There are two energy pathways in humans that oppose each other -AMPK and mTor. This isn’t just a hypothesis, increased mtor production is increased cell turnover. That is what shortens your telomeres, that is what accelerates cell mutations (cancer and the link to protein).
I would like to believe that gaining muscle, testosterone and stimulating mtor is beneficial for health. It’s blatantly obvious that it’s not. As someone who is naturally very muscular (I obviously have a lot of satellite cells and turnover) I need to be especially mindful of this. People who take steroids die early, powerlifters who lift and eat shit loads age themselves quickly.
It goes back to what I mentioned.. you fuck and reproduce and die early, or you starve yourself to slow down cell turnover, decrease testosterone and live for a long time. You can’t have both.

Re: testosterone and longevity, how hormones work for males and females.. this is well established.

What you’ve said about cortisol doesn’t make any sense. I don’t know what you mean by unregulated. Google what the HPA axis and what the response to stress is. I don’t mean to be disrespectful, but you’re clearly lacking an understanding about these basic biological processes. Learn the basics first and then debate nuances and confounding factors.
Just don't take steroids and you should have little to worry about.
 
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He has literally said he doesn't eat a ton of carbs.


He just doesnt do the supposed zero carbs shit you do (which you probably don't really do since you probably blow the froth off with Dale every night....afterwards you drink some beers).


Fuck you are obtuse...


Hey did you tell Dale to be by friend yet?

Man that Haggis sure is annoying.
Just took you off ignore to let you know my current 5 min rating on lichess is 1922 https://lichess.org/@/ThunderRoad/perf/blitz

Lemme guess, you're a couple of stone fatter than when you started this thread. And your chess is worse. Must be hard finding a reason to get out of bed each day.
 
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Fugg..I suck at kilograms.

The thing with the intermittent. It works, I’m just not hungry after a workout..

In Europe, they have smaller meals compared to the Western Diet of emphasizing big breakfasts.

It could be a lot of things too like smoking marijuana to suppress appetite as well.

An intermittent Keto would be ideal..
You want books?
 
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I've said a million times already that looking healthy and being healthy are 2 different things.

Just curious, what if any credentials do you have that you are now going from "carbs make you hungry" to "carbs cause cancer". That's a pretty big claim. What degree do you have? What research have you either conducted or read? Actual research, peer reviewed studies published in respected publications, not some fitness YouTuber.

Pretty sure I'll take the advice of my doctor over and random guy on the internet.

As for donuts and pizza, like I said they're not Staples in my diet. I was just making the point that it's ok to take things in moderation. If one donut or one piece of your kid's birthday cake is gonna mess up your whole diet then there's a problem
Yeah mate, take the advice of your doctor who'll be out of a job if you're healthy. I don't have a doctor because I don't need one. Feel great everyday because I don't force junk down my throat.

If you were legit when you said you were on low carb for 6 months, then you'd know how shit you felt when you suddenly ate junk like donuts or pizza. Cancer loves junk like that stuff. Stop being a cancer enabler.
 
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Yeah mate, take the advice of your doctor who'll be out of a job if you're healthy. I don't have a doctor because I don't need one. Feel great everyday because I don't force junk down my throat.

If you were legit when you said you were on low carb for 6 months, then you'd know how shit you felt when you suddenly ate junk like donuts or pizza. Cancer loves junk like that stuff. Stop being a cancer enabler.
Bummer it makes you grumpy AF though.
 

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Isn't that what going to bed and waking up is? first meal of the day is called breakfast (break from fasting??) no?

I know guys like Terry Crews swear by it (intermittent fasting that is)
Yeah, like, whenever I see someone come out the bathroom, I'm like "Hey, yo, hope you enjoyed your intermittent fast, bro, that you were hopefully just on, ese."
 

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My co-worker does the water fasts. He does the 5-6 day fasts at a time. He states that it only messes with him for about the first 48 hours and by the end of the third day his hunger is suppressed and his body feels good, clarity of mind, etc. He supplements vitamins during this time and has one intake of water per day with sea salt to help with water retention. He does them like once every three months or so. He's probably lost 35 pounds or so in the last year.
What a fat bastard.
 
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Yeah mate, take the advice of your doctor who'll be out of a job if you're healthy. I don't have a doctor because I don't need one. Feel great everyday because I don't force junk down my throat.

If you were legit when you said you were on low carb for 6 months, then you'd know how shit you felt when you suddenly ate junk like donuts or pizza. Cancer loves junk like that stuff. Stop being a cancer enabler.
You're just being plain arrogant now. Telling me how I felt because it's simply not possible that you could be wrong here. You're also twisting my words. I didn't say that I went from no carb to stuffing my face with donuts and pizza. I said that I put carbs back into my diet. I occasionally eat junk food because I can. It's not a staple in my diet as I've said repeatedly.

I went no carb (30g or less per day) for 6 months and I'm convinced that all this bullshit people say about "feeling better" or being more alert is just placebo effect or that it's legit but it's because it's the first time in their life that the person started watching what they eat. For someone like myself who already eats healthy there was 0 positive effect from going no carb. For someone that constantly stuffs their face with junk and never excercises then suddenly decides to cut out carbs and start working out then yeah no shit that person is going to feel better and lose weight. The same would have happened if they adopted a normal healthy diet.

I reintroduced carbs for a couple of reasons. The first being that I didn't feel "more alert" or "just felt better" or any of the shit that people say they feel when they cut carbs out. I was already on a healthy diet (and continue to be) that included carbs so there wasn't any real positive difference.

As a matter of fact the only difference I felt was negative. I felt that getting through my workouts was getting harder and harder and I couldn't perform the way I did before I went no carb. Like I said before, when I reintroduced carbs I almost immediately shot up on all my major lifts.

If eliminating carbs works for you great, whatever keeps you happy and healthy but don't sit here and tell me how I should've felt or that I must be lying because it's just not possible that I didn't feel like shit when I started eating carbs again. That's just arrogant and presumptuous. 8 billion people on this fucking planet and everyone of them has to eat exactly like you, not possible that something different works for someone else.
 
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You're just being plain arrogant now. Telling me how I felt because it's simply not possible that you could be wrong here. You're also twisting my words. I didn't say that I went from no carb to stuffing my face with donuts and pizza. I said that I put carbs back into my diet. I occasionally eat junk food because I can. It's not a staple in my diet as I've said repeatedly.

I went no carb (30g or less per day) for 6 months and I'm convinced that all this bullshit people say about "feeling better" or being more alert is just placebo effect or that it's legit but it's because it's the first time in their life that the person started watching what they eat. For someone like myself who already eats healthy there was 0 positive effect from going no carb. For someone that constantly stuffs their face with junk and never excercises then suddenly decides to cut out carbs and start working out then yeah no shit that person is going to feel better and lose weight. The same would have happened if they adopted a normal healthy diet.

I reintroduced carbs for a couple of reasons. The first being that I didn't feel "more alert" or "just felt better" or any of the shit that people say they feel when they cut carbs out. I was already on a healthy diet (and continue to be) that included carbs so there wasn't any real positive difference.

As a matter of fact the only difference I felt was negative. I felt that getting through my workouts was getting harder and harder and I couldn't perform the way I did before I went no carb. Like I said before, when I reintroduced carbs I almost immediately shot up on all my major lifts.

If eliminating carbs works for you great, whatever keeps you happy and healthy but don't sit here and tell me how I should've felt or that I must be lying because it's just not possible that I didn't feel like shit when I started eating carbs again. That's just arrogant and presumptuous. 8 billion people on this fucking planet and everyone of them has to eat exactly like you, not possible that something different works for someone else.
What was your weight and bodyfat % before you went on low carb, what was it after 6 months on low carb and what is it now after succumbing to carbs again?
 
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What was your weight and bodyfat % before you went on low carb, what was it after 6 months on low carb and what is it now after succumbing to carbs again?
Before, during, and after the no carb expirement my numbers remained the same within a few pounds anyway. There was about a 5 pound swing when I eliminated carbs but it was water weight that I regained within literally a day or 2 of eating carbs again. Currently I'm 5'8, 185, about 14% body fat.
 
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Before, during, and after the no carb expirement my numbers remained the same within a few pounds anyway. There was about a 5 pound swing when I eliminated carbs but it was water weight that I regained within literally a day or 2 of eating carbs again. Currently I'm 5'8, 185, about 14% body fat.
So you lost 5 pounds of water after the first few days of eliminating carbs and was in ketosis for the next 6 months with your bodyfat and weight remaining constant?

 
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So you lost 5 pounds of water after the first few days of eliminating carbs and was in ketosis for the next 6 months with your bodyfat and weight remaining constant?

Hmmm. Do I believe the numbers on my scale and dexa scans or some random guy on the internet, tough choice.
 
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