ATG Wins by Non-ATG Fighters

Jun 3, 2012
Korakuen Hall
Seeing as it's the 29th anniversary of Tyson-Douglas...

What are the greatest wins in boxing history where the victor is far from all-time great status?


Bosomus Maximus
Jun 14, 2012
Laing's win over Duran.
KO Magazine's previous Upset of the Year was Roger Stafford over Pipino Cuevas. A year later they wrote something along the lines of, "Laing in victory is not the fighter Stafford is. Cuevas in defeat is not the fighter Duran is. If Stafford over Cuevas is an upset, then what does that make Laing over Duran?"

I viewed the live broadcast of both bouts. I do think Laing-Duran was the biggest upset I watched during my time following boxing. Retroactively, we know Hearns had taken Pipino's chin away when the featherfisted Stafford dropped him, but Duran had an unbelievable amount still left in the tank.

As a postscript concerning Roger Stafford, I was as hardcore an SRL hater as there was, but Ray was very highly motivated by Stafford's big mouth and training hard with high motivation when he abruptly announced his retirement. But before that happened, I was actually rooting for SRL to beat the shit out of Stafford, and I hadn't rooted for SRL since the Olympics.


Bosomus Maximus
Jun 14, 2012
Musing on the bizarre twin victories of Mark Wills over Greg Page, I wonder how easy it is for a non ATG fighter to match TWO victories over an ATG like what Iran Barkley pulled off over Tommy Hearns. Nobody else beat The Hit Man twice, and Tommy was coming off his decision over Virgil Hill when Iran pulled it off a second time. (In fact, Hearns had a far better career than Barkley after their rematch. Tommy wasn't what he had been, but he was far from washed up.)
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DB Cooper

peel me a grape
May 17, 2013
Frankie Randall inflicting Julio Cesar Chavez first loss in his 91st fight. Chavez was at such short odds he was almost unbackable.
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Apr 12, 2014
Beijing China
Max Schmeling over Joe Louis

Corey Sanders/Ross Purity over Wladimir Klitschko

Junior Jones twice over Barrera

Mayorga over Vernon Forrest twice although could argue Forrest not really an ATG
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