Athletes who are nowhere near the GOAT conversation.... but on their best day, they're better than the guys who are?

Haggis

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Possible examples:

Fat Ronaldo? Nowhere near the production of Pretty Ronaldo, but if you could pick one of them to line up for your team in the big game and you knew they'd both be at their absolute peak and play out of their skin..... do you pick Fat Ronaldo?

Or Tom Brady is indisputably the GOAT for the NFL. But if you knew that either of them was going to put in a top-5 best-of-his career performance.... do you start Michael Vick over Tom Brady?

Who are some good examples of guys who aren't in the GOAT discussion, but on their best day they'll destroy the competition maybe even more brutally than the GOAT of their sport / position ever did?

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Maybe not a for sure pick... but at his absolute focused best of best surely Zab Judah could be picked over a few far higher rated champions.

He doesn't stack up with any of his actual accomplishments and was an underdog in a lot of his top fights but I don't believe we ever saw the best of him.
At his absolute best, say the first few rounds against Floyd before he fell apart he was skill full as fuck, sharp, decent power. Perhaps if he had better mind for the sport then he could have been something special..

So if we are going off hypoteticals where they someone is really going to perform to the level they are capable off and fight 'out of his skin' Zab probably could beat many more people then he has.
 
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Well rested, completely healthy, late 20s-early 30s Manu Ginobili of Argentina and San Antonio Spurs.

Will not consistently produce gaudy stat lines and extended workhorse minutes, but for one game, for all the marbles, if my life depended on it, I would feel confident with him on floor.

Even going face to face against any of the greatest shooting guards of all time. Bar none.

Same fire and will to win as any superstar who ever played the game.

With easily top 5-10 all time ranking in unselfishness, creative passing skills, hustle and leadership.
 
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In 1966, Al Bundy scored four touchdowns in a single game while playing for the Polk High School Panthers in the 1966 city championship game versus Andrew Johnson High School, including the game-winning touchdown in the final seconds against his old nemesis, Bubba "Spare Tire" Dixon.
 
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Bill Walton.. He had a two year reign of terror but then got hurt and never was a great player again. Many thought he was the best center ever before the injuries.
 

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In 1966, Al Bundy scored four touchdowns in a single game while playing for the Polk High School Panthers in the 1966 city championship game versus Andrew Johnson High School, including the game-winning touchdown in the final seconds against his old nemesis, Bubba "Spare Tire" Dixon.
 

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Paul Gascoigne had the talent to be one of best players ever.
 
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Barry Sanders is the best football player I have ever seen.
I was going to say that Sanders is at least in the discussion for GOAT, but...... he isn't. Maybe three-four years ago..... not any more.

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Dazl1212

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As long as I live I'll never forget the kid in tears at Italy 1990. Fucking amazing...you'll never make the World Cup final by virtue of the yellow, and you know it. Broke his fucking heart that day, and fair enough. I'd have broken my heart in that situation.

Fucking amazing player.
His performances in Euro 96 were unreal, guy clearly had some serious inner demons. what a waste of talent.
 
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His performances in Euro 96 were unreal, guy clearly had some serious inner demons. what a waste of talent.
Too much booze, Daz. Too much fame, too much talent.

Having said this if you had a couple of million in the bank and was stuck up on top of the world you'd probably go straight off the rails. I know for a fact I would.
 
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I was going to say that Sanders is at least in the discussion for GOAT, but...... he isn't. Maybe three-four years ago..... not any more.

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Even when it comes to running backs, you usually hear Walter Payton or Jim Brown first. If Barry Sanders was part of a better organization, he would have obliterated every single rushing record.
 
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Lennox Lewis is up there. At his prime, when focused and motivated by the right amount of "fear" around his opponent, I'd pick him to win more than he'd lose to Joe Louis and give Ali more than he could handle in his post suspension faze. Ali before the enforced layoff...still too good IMO, but Lewis would have been his toughest opponent.

I am not an expert on F1, but I guess Senna is a common shout.
 

Dazl1212

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Too much booze, Daz. Too much fame, too much talent.

Having said this if you had a couple of million in the bank and was stuck up on top of the world you'd probably go straight off the rails. I know for a fact I would.
I think I would as well. Just dont know whats going on in someones head.

England are crying out for a midfielder like that now.
 
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