Athletes who are nowhere near the GOAT conversation.... but on their best day, they're better than the guys who are?

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what about buster Douglas. The night he beat Tyson he looked like an animal. Skill, stamina, light on his feet and power.
 
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what about buster Douglas. The night he beat Tyson he looked like an animal. Skill, stamina, light on his feet and power.
Yeah people always just say that Tyson was not properly prepared that night, and that is true, but it's also shortchanging Douglas. Tyson put in a half assed effort in preparing for a few fights and still handled a good opponent easily, but Douglas was a fucking monster that night. Huge, a good athlete, technical skills were on point, fought smart and threw with authority the whole time, and psychologically he was just not going to be deterred from his mission no matter what. That night's version of Douglas might have fucked a 22 year old Tyson up. Hot take, but there it is. :lol:

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Interesting that in an eight month span, Douglas turned in one of the greatest title fight efforts in boxing history, and also one of the worst.

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Interesting that in an eight month span, Douglas turned in one of the greatest title fight efforts in boxing history, and also one of the worst.

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I'll never forget either fights. Tyson ppv events were a huge deal for 10 year old me.

Yeah I agree man, why I mentioned him. That one night he was a great fighter
 

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Not sure if I've responded to this thread at some point already, but when Nick Foles was in top form, he turned in some of the best performances in NFL history AND he out-duel'd the supposed "GOAT" Brady.
 
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Lennox Lewis is up there. At his prime, when focused and motivated by the right amount of "fear" around his opponent, I'd pick him to win more than he'd lose to Joe Louis and give Ali more than he could handle in his post suspension faze. Ali before the enforced layoff...still too good IMO, but Lewis would have been his toughest opponent.

I am not an expert on F1, but I guess Senna is a common shout.
in all honesty Lewis on his best day vs bowe on his absolute best (fysically AND mentally)
I favor Bowe.

a prime Bowe on his best day would beat almost any HW in history except a very very few
 
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Tennis is Nadal. In Fed's shadow slightly, but injuries stopped him more than anything. When he was fit he was the best. Beating a prime Fed in 2008 on his favourite surface proved that.
Don't think Nadal would count. He's the best clay court player of all time and a contender for the GOAT in men's tennis.

It's between him, Fed, Novak, Laver, and Borg imo.

Stan Wawrinka would be a good shout in tennis though. He has blasted the big three off the court when he's on it, but he isn't consistent, focused, or rounded enough to compete regularly.
 
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From the videos I’ve seen, are there many players who could do what Matt Le Tissier could do with so few fucks, so little ambition and such low fitness?

If that guy had the determined brain of a Beckham or a Shearer, he could have been one of the best ever.

 
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Pretty much any golfer that ever won a tournament.

Golf is very much about "on the day" and to win, particularly a major, you will need to beat all the top players by turning it on for a short period.

Given the right course and conditions, a bit of form, and a bit of luck, any player can win.

The two best golfers of all time, Nicklaus and Woods, can be beaten even if they are on top form. (This is particularly true of other top players like Player or Watson).

They primary reason they are the best is because they can replicate their best form, or close to it, most consistently.



Ian Poulter would be a contender if you include match play. Nowhere near the best golfer, he hasn't even won a major, he regularly beats better players in match play golf. Especially at the Ryder Cup.

It seems the format, and direct competition, brings out the best in him.
 

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I thought about him right as I opened the thread just now! From his reputation, he's the obvious pick from football so far as I'm aware.

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but you’re not aware, you’re just regurgitating shit from other people, same with your Ronaldo analogy

I doubt you’ve watched a game of football in your life
 
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Basketball: Dražen Petrović
Tennis: Marat Safin
Boxing: Tyson Fury
Football: Sebastian Deisler

Not in a sense that they are better than ATGs in their sport, but had/have the potential to beat ATG opponents on their best day..
 
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