Been Shapiro on BBC

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weirdest thing i find about living in 2019 is that people like him have like a proper following, imagine being one of them seeing that :bellew

also like what if andrew neil was a lefty? then he "wins"?
 
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weirdest thing i find about living in 2019 is that people like him have like a proper following, imagine being one of them seeing that :bellew

also like what if andrew neil was a lefty? then he "wins"?
Proper doesn't fit there. Stop overusing it.

Shirpiro is great. The interviewer did exactly what Shirpiro claimed. Took things out of context and didn't understand things.
 
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McGrain

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I like Shapiro.

But that's a cultural bump that. He's no idea what he's saying or who he's saying it to. Bad research, poor guidance by his people. If that was a confrontation then Andrew Neil probably edged it, but I don't think he got dominated or anything. Defo made a tit of himself though.
 
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I cannot stand Shapiro. But...sorry...there's no "ownage" there. All there is, is a set up to attack someone and throw a stream of quotes at them to prove they're wrong. Shaprio can and should be exposed for the hypocrite he is, but Marr did none of that. All he managed was to show that he can quote a 7 year old tweet that contradicts the ostensible ethos of a person now. WOW. :lol:

He used loaded language to attack Shapiro's stance on abortion, when actually he could have challenged Shapiro's laughable reference to "science". Shapiro is a hack. An articulate, aggressive bully who bulldozes people before his own total lack of critical, objective analysis can be exposed. Marr is identical. I'd pay money to sit with the two of them, unscripted with cameras rolling and expose the both of them for the intellectual frauds they are.
 
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I cannot stand Shapiro. But...sorry...there's no "ownage" there. All there is, is a set up to attack someone and throw a stream of quotes at them to prove they're wrong. Shaprio can and should be exposed for the hypocrite he is, but Marr did none of that. All he managed was to show that he can quote a 7 year old tweet that contradicts the ostensible ethos of a person now. WOW. :lol:

He used loaded language to attack Shapiro's stance on abortion, when actually he could have challenged Shapiro's laughable reference to "science". Shapiro is a hack. An articulate, aggressive bully who bulldozes people before his own total lack of critical, objective analysis can be exposed. Marr is identical. I'd pay money to sit with the two of them, unscripted with cameras rolling and expose the both of them for the intellectual frauds they are.
See....that right there was a Haggis post.
 

rjjfan

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I cannot stand Shapiro. But...sorry...there's no "ownage" there. All there is, is a set up to attack someone and throw a stream of quotes at them to prove they're wrong. Shaprio can and should be exposed for the hypocrite he is, but Marr did none of that. All he managed was to show that he can quote a 7 year old tweet that contradicts the ostensible ethos of a person now. WOW. :lol:

He used loaded language to attack Shapiro's stance on abortion, when actually he could have challenged Shapiro's laughable reference to "science". Shapiro is a hack. An articulate, aggressive bully who bulldozes people before his own total lack of critical, objective analysis can be exposed. Marr is identical. I'd pay money to sit with the two of them, unscripted with cameras rolling and expose the both of them for the intellectual frauds they are.
I'd pay money to watch you sith with them, no lie.:deal
 
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I became a "yeah fuck you Ben Shapiro" guy when he argued that single payer health insurance would make his medical doctor wife a slave.

Because having a government led health service system is of course the exact same thing as being abducted from your home and shipped across the Atlantic , to be auctioned off as livestock.

And what the Hell is a devout Jew even doing, living outside of Israel in the first place?
 
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I became a "yeah fuck you Ben Shapiro" guy when he argued that single payer health insurance would make his medical doctor wife a slave.

Because having a government led health service system is of course the exact same thing as being abducted from your home and shipped across the Atlantic , to be auctioned off as livestock.

And what the Hell is a devout Jew even doing, living outside of Israel in the first place?
He keeps arguing that point too, which is beyond dumb since here in the States we have laws that keep doctors from refusing service in the case of an emergency. If his wife took that stance at all, she shouldn't have gone into medicine in the first place.

On top of that, she's a doctor because of the incredible education system we have in the US. All that nice technology that was created by all the scientists that she uses in her practice and all that research that was government funded that fuels her knowledge is all thanks to the taxpayers. Maybe punk ass Shapiro should be a little more grateful because he sure as fuck didn't fund all the medical knowledge his wife has even though he funded her medical school tuition. I also read that the tuition for medical school doesn't cover the entire cost of the training. It's also subsidized by the medical facility (which again is likely taxpayer money).

Anyways, the BBC host made him look like a bitch, and his dig at the end was legendary.
 

Squire

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I like that he owned up to a bad performance there. He wasn't awful but didn't come across too well either. Neil was pretty annoying too; I'm sick of watching MSM interviewers just throw old comments and tweets at right wingers (out of context) and ask them to explain themselves. It's pathetic, and results in the boring, painfully careful and PC politicians we have that don't dare to say anything that might upset a single fucking voter. How can they? They'll get any joke they make repeated back to them for the next 10 years or more and have to explain the context, every single time.
 
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As much as I think he didn't handle that well, I''m just sick to the back teeth of seeing the likes of the BBC run this same tactic all of the time... compile a list of things which when said without context will sound terrible to try and score a bunch of gotcha points... I get his over-arching point that Shapiro is guilty of the things he's complaining about when it comes to bad discourse but he's pulling up comments and tweets from 2012, he's playing the same old guilt by association bullshit with the question about working for Brietbart... what was the point of those questions?

They do it to absolutely everyone they don't like and it's so cheap and easy, the best way to handle it is how Jordan Peterson handled Cathy Newman, who ran the same tactic, and just keep as calm as possible but I can understand someone like Shapiro getting frustrated with this line of questioning for the 100th time.

The part about him questioning Jewish people who support Obama, it seemed like he was trying to make some racial point and when Shapiro said "well this guy has spent his full two terms being belligerent towards Israel and allying with their enemies", he just ignored this perfectly reasonable logic and kept going down the same route "no, you said this, you said that..." the guy just explained to you why he thinks they're Jews in name only.

And is it just me or are these mainstream outlets particularly aggressive towards any personalities who came up through the internet?

Neil makes some references to him being "new media" with a certain amount of disdain, they are absolutely terrified of people being able to bypass their gatekeepers, set up shop on the internet and draw bigger audiences than them .... with no ones permission or even going to the right University before getting a job at the BBC, imagine that!!

As I've said in the past as an Atheist Pro-Choice / Gay Rights Universal Healthcare advocate, I disagree with the majority of Shapiros positions but I can stomach someone like him far easier than I can these soulless partisan shills on the "Old Media"...

I like that he owned up to a bad performance there. He wasn't awful but didn't come across too well either. Neil was pretty annoying too; I'm sick of watching MSM interviewers just throw old comments and tweets at right wingers (out of context) and ask them to explain themselves. It's pathetic, and results in the boring, painfully careful and PC politicians we have that don't dare to say anything that might upset a single fucking voter. How can they? They'll get any joke they make repeated back to them for the next 10 years or more and have to explain the context, every single time.
Yep, completely agree, they're a cancer, they're fuelling this outrage culture and the "culture war" as they call it. They come from an era when they could manipulate the opinion of the majority of the population and that power is disappearing fast... they bring nothing worthwhile to the table.
 
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I cannot stand Shapiro. But...sorry...there's no "ownage" there. All there is, is a set up to attack someone and throw a stream of quotes at them to prove they're wrong. Shaprio can and should be exposed for the hypocrite he is, but Marr did none of that. All he managed was to show that he can quote a 7 year old tweet that contradicts the ostensible ethos of a person now. WOW. :lol:

He used loaded language to attack Shapiro's stance on abortion, when actually he could have challenged Shapiro's laughable reference to "science". Shapiro is a hack. An articulate, aggressive bully who bulldozes people before his own total lack of critical, objective analysis can be exposed. Marr is identical. I'd pay money to sit with the two of them, unscripted with cameras rolling and expose the both of them for the intellectual frauds they are.

Yeah because that is what would happen.