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I remember thinking this kid was some sort of joke and he looked like it the night Billy Joe fought Akavov, his corner advice was dogshit. He seemed like a young gobshite who was chatting shit from the only way is Essex. I think he's maturing into a worldclass trainer thou. Thoughts on Benny? gobshite or boarderline worldclass trainer?
 
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I am with Freddie Roach . . . . . Ben should have told him to step on it a bit when he had Wilder hurt. He had him going a few times. Should have got him out of there if he could, avoid some thing like the 12th round happening.
He won the fight by following Ben's instructions, it was only biased and terrible judging that saw him not pick up the WBC title. Wilder has never been stopped, on the floor nor can I remember him being hurt?

Where was the gaurentee he would of stopped him by stepping on the gas? Why would he need to when he was boxing his head off? It was a one sided fight that only a blind man could give Wilder more than three rounds in.

Going for the stoppage when you are so far ahead (well seemingly to everyone outside of two judges) against the biggest puncher in the division is ludicrous. The time he got caught and put on the floor was because he wasn't listening to Ben's instructions.
 
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I don’t know about going for the stoppage, but I do think Fury should have pushed home his advantage in the middle rounds.

Slowly turned the screw type thing.
 
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He won the fight by following Ben's instructions, it was only biased and terrible judging that saw him not pick up the WBC title. Wilder has never been stopped, on the floor nor can I remember him being hurt?
He was hurt by Brezeale and Molina, and notably in the Ortiz fight. I have also read he was hurt in an early fight with Dustin Nichols, but I have never seen it.

I completely agree with your assessment however, why risk going for the stoppage when you should be clearly winning. Particularly when the guy you are facing is capable of scoring a one punch ko at any time. Would be madness and totally against Fury's usual character.
 
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He was hurt by Brezeale and Molina, and notably in the Ortiz fight. I have also read he was hurt in an early fight with Dustin Nichols, but I have never seen it.

I completely agree with your assessment however, why risk going for the stoppage when you should be clearly winning. Particularly when the guy you are facing is capable of scoring a one punch ko at any time. Would be madness and totally against Fury's usual character.
Forgot about the Ortiz fight to be fair I just think it would of been such a risky tactic when you are seemingly miles ahead and everything is on the line.
 
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Forgot about the Ortiz fight to be fair I just think it would of been such a risky tactic when you are seemingly miles ahead and everything is on the line.
That's the only time I have seen him really hurt. Brezeale and Molina both buzzed him, but that's bound to happen from time to time with guys that size.
 
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That's the only time I have seen him really hurt. Brezeale and Molina both buzzed him, but that's bound to happen from time to time with guys that size.
Yeah I think it would be a terrible mistake by any trainer to assume that Wilder's chinny. I don't think there is a active heavyweight on the planet who hasn't been buzzed or on the floor.

I also think with the lay off Tyson had the very small amount of rounds he had in the previous three years increasing his output and searching for the stoppage may have been a dangerous tactic and led to him really feeling fatigued in the later rounds.

I just believe the gameplan was bang on and they won the fight hands down. I scored it 8-3-1 on the night and 9-3 when I watched it back a couple of months ago.
 
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