Black Lives Matter...

BLM: Good or Bad?


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Nov 4, 2015
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I heard that race hustling idiot Tim Wise yesterday say that white kids don't deserve to feel safe as long as black kids are not.

This is the level of retardation we're dealing with. Of course the fool has kids himself but don't think for a second he was volunteering his own.
 
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If all Americans of color disappeared tomorrow (rapture/exodus/aliens/whatever) would the American cops still act like weaponized thugs or would they suddenly become all about serving and protecting the public? Seems to me that you have a quality of police problem underlying the claimed racism and if you solved that, the whole racism issue would be significantly reduced.
 
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If all Americans of color disappeared tomorrow (rapture/exodus/aliens/whatever) would the American cops still act like weaponized thugs or would they suddenly become all about serving and protecting the public? Seems to me that you have a quality of police problem underlying the claimed racism and if you solved that, the whole racism issue would be significantly reduced.
The issue with policing in America has everything to do with overloading the purpose and duty of a cop by abandoning gender roles and the direct consequence of that abandonment.

Basically now school teachers and police officers are expected to be parents because in American ghettos nobody raised them right to respect positions of authority or to even have a grander idea of reality extending beyond their emotions.
 
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steviebruno

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Overall, a vehicle to promote the Great. Gay. Agenda.

But they're okay when they stay on message and confront police brutality. They should also be in places like Chicago, though...
 
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I will say it again, as long as 70% of black children are born to unwed mothers and black men refuse to accept responsibilities for their actions we are going o have problems in the black world.

The stats show us what happens to those raised in one parent homes and crime. The cops know this and are simply tired of having to deal with it, so it doesn''t take much to set them off when having to deal with this bad situation.

And, so many times if people did what they were told, no problems. Hell, if Floyd hadn't been handing out funny money he'd be alive today. No talk at all about just how long had he been doing that. And his criminal past totally ignored.
 

steviebruno

CHB NYC Delegate
Jun 5, 2013
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Why aren't they
Good question...and one I don't have an answer to. I've already told you what I think. They spend far more time promoting the Great. Gay. Agenda. than they do concerning themselves with black lives. They are only truly worthwhile when confronting police brutality issues.

They want the headlines, I guess...
 
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Broxi

The Anti-Bully
Jul 24, 2012
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The central point is ok, there appears to be an issue with black MEN being killed by cops when they’re not particularly posing any threat.

That should be the number one priority of the movement.

Out with that, oh fucking boys oh boys, where do you start?

Well, troublingly racist as fuck prominent figures, a complete dishonesty in tackling the issue of crime within black communities, of black fatherless children, false claims of unjustified killings, racist and violent rhetoric, divisive messaging, a parasitic Anarcho-Communist movement suckling on its teat for their own ends.

Many many issues and a very complex problem which could do well with everyone just being a lot more fucking honest with themselves and others.

Many things can be true at once... and the problem doesn’t all lie in just one place or is easily solved.

One of the most glaring problems of police training, culture, mindset and code of conduct does seem to be one of the more easy to solve problems though.

So maybe start there.
 
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They are a political vehicle first then about race second, third or maybe forth. Their sentiment is right but they are so full of hypocrisy and seem to let their political views get in the way instead of concentrating on all black issues across the spectrum.

They also have a clear case of tunnel vision with their ideology and won't accept any form of criticism.
 

Broxi

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do you have any stats to back that claim up?

Black Americans 2.5X More Likely Than Whites to Be Killed By Police

Protests around the United States are boiling over after Minneapolis man George Floyd was killed by police. Floyd, accused of using a counterfeit $20 bill, had his neck compressed by an officer’s knee while in handcuffs for roughly nine minutes before later dying. Other recent instances of racism against African Americans in the country have led to massive protests against police brutality and systemic, institutional racism that many feel have gone unchecked for decades.

In 2019 data of all police killings in the country compiled by Mapping Police Violence, black Americans were nearly three times more likely to die from police than white Americans. Other statistics showed that black Americans were nearly one-and-a-half times more likely to be unarmed before their death.

Most states’ police forces killed black people at a higher rate per capita than white people, with Illinois, New York and Washington D.C. carrying some of the largest discrepancies by state. D.C., with a black population of nearly 50 percent, had 88 percent of all police killings be against black Americans – a discrepancy of over 38 percentage points. Rhode Island had the largest discrepancy of 44 points, albeit with a much smaller sample size of four police killings in 2019 – two of them being African American.

While much of the western states have smaller discrepancies overall than eastern ones, large cities like Reno, Oklahoma City and Anaheim all had higher police killing rates of black people than the total U.S. murder rate. Others above the U.S. murder rate were St. Louis, Madison, Wis., Scottsdale, Ariz. and two others.

Overall, in 2019, 24 percent of all police killings were of black Americans when just 13 percent of the U.S. population is black – an 11-point discrepancy. Mapping Police Violence also showed that 99 percent of all officers involved in all police killings had no criminal charges pressed against them.
 

Jack

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I'm losing patience for black people saying "stop killing us" when the statistics of violence from the black demographic is disproportionately high in most western nations. Its a significant problem, yet nobody seems to want to acknowledge the fact, never mind actually look at solving this crisis that the majority of citizens have had to put up with for decades.

If people want their children to be less likely to die, raise them properly. Stick with that girl you knocked up, don't abandon your children, raise families in stable households, with mortgages and careers, and a lot of these endemic problems within the community will disappear.

There is a significant problem from the police, racism needs to be acknowledged and fought, but black communities need to hold themselves accountable for many problems in their communities because it unquestionably contributes.
 
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Black Americans 2.5X More Likely Than Whites to Be Killed By Police

Protests around the United States are boiling over after Minneapolis man George Floyd was killed by police. Floyd, accused of using a counterfeit $20 bill, had his neck compressed by an officer’s knee while in handcuffs for roughly nine minutes before later dying. Other recent instances of racism against African Americans in the country have led to massive protests against police brutality and systemic, institutional racism that many feel have gone unchecked for decades.

In 2019 data of all police killings in the country compiled by Mapping Police Violence, black Americans were nearly three times more likely to die from police than white Americans. Other statistics showed that black Americans were nearly one-and-a-half times more likely to be unarmed before their death.

Most states’ police forces killed black people at a higher rate per capita than white people, with Illinois, New York and Washington D.C. carrying some of the largest discrepancies by state. D.C., with a black population of nearly 50 percent, had 88 percent of all police killings be against black Americans – a discrepancy of over 38 percentage points. Rhode Island had the largest discrepancy of 44 points, albeit with a much smaller sample size of four police killings in 2019 – two of them being African American.

While much of the western states have smaller discrepancies overall than eastern ones, large cities like Reno, Oklahoma City and Anaheim all had higher police killing rates of black people than the total U.S. murder rate. Others above the U.S. murder rate were St. Louis, Madison, Wis., Scottsdale, Ariz. and two others.

Overall, in 2019, 24 percent of all police killings were of black Americans when just 13 percent of the U.S. population is black – an 11-point discrepancy. Mapping Police Violence also showed that 99 percent of all officers involved in all police killings had no criminal charges pressed against them.
These numbers are meaningless. Blacks commit much more crime than whites and naturally have more police interactions. It also doesn’t account for resisting arrests which some studies show blacks do much more.
 

Broxi

The Anti-Bully
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These numbers are meaningless. Blacks commit much more crime than whites and naturally have more police interactions. It also doesn’t account for resisting arrests which some studies show blacks do much more.
you are correct that per capita black men commit more crime and without getting into the reasons why that is at the minute.

Question: Do you accept that US police kill people who are not representing a threat great enough that justifies lethal force?
 
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you are correct that per capita black men commit more crime and without getting into the reasons why that is at the minute.

Question: Do you accept that US police kill people who are not representing a threat great enough that justifies lethal force?

Yes it happens. The problem with alot of the cases is we know that there was not a threat because of hindsight that cops don't have,