Black Lives Matter...

BLM: Good or Bad?


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Jack

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Fuck, if there was ever a time I’d support police brutality......that was it.
It's shocking to me how little respect there is for other people. I know people have issues with this idea but ignore the fact they're police...that's someone's child, someone's brother, someone's dad and people think it's just nothing to hit them in the head with a baseball bat. Those people cheering it on wouldn't care if the guy ended up brain damaged because they lump everyone in the same boat, that because one person has the same job as another person in a different part of the country, it's therefore justifiable to treat that officer like Derek Chauvin deserves to be treated. They don't know who he is, what he's like away from work, what his political views are. He could be the nicest guy you could ever meet, someone who does charity work at kids hospitals, and supports anti-racism movements, yet because he happens to be a police officer, vile assaults are cheered on?

That mentality is the essence of where bigotry is found. Some black people commit crime, therefore it's acceptable to hit a black man in the head with a baseball bat? Some women commit domestic abuse, therefore it's ok to hit them with a baseball bat? Of course not, nobody would ever make those arguments, and yet with the police, people think they have free rein because some cops do bad things and it gets covered up by some other cops. There isn't any demographic in society, whether it's by profession, gender, religion, race or whatever else, where that isn't the case, but we don't judge the entire demographic because of what some shit people do, we judge those people as individuals and not as a collective.

It's such a pathetic mentality to have. People will look for any reason to justify their bigotry.
 

Jack

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I'm sure people will die as a result of all this, it's certainly worrying to see militia members out on the streetsm but what else can happen? The police aren't being used because politicians don't want to give the rioters more ammunition but even then, the rioters don't respect the police and know they're not going to be heavy handed, so what's the alternative? To let the streets burn? People aren't just going to sit by and allow that to happen. I'm sure when a militia member shoots a rioter, the press will be talking about how wrong they were - just like in the Rittenhouse case - but it's not the militia members who wanted this fight. They don't want to be in a position where they have to defend places from arson and looting, but what alternative is there? Are the rioters respecting private and federal property? No. Are they respecting the police? No. So it's a last resort to protect society from thugs.

The narrative on this is so messed up though. I was listening to Tucker Carlson last night, he was talking about how left wing protestors were gathering outside Republican politician houses and threatening violence. He was completely right when he said that this only ever happens from the left to the right. You don't see the right incite start riots, intimidate politicians, threaten civilians without fear of repercussion. It's all from the left wing and then when right wingers push back, the narrative is that they're the aggressors.
 
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Tko6

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Militia has to come in again to protect from the rioters.
I was watching this live yesterday, when it was day time there. The protesters left the main road to surround the militia and start taunting and abusing them right in their faces. I don't know much about these militia people, but people in chat were saying these were full-on militia types, from the same area that ABC showed their firing range shenanigans and presented it as Syria a few years back.
 
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Goat doesn’t know how lucky he is to have Desantis running his state. He is going to keep Goat safe.
They dodged a bullet not getting the meth addict. Can you imagine how much more of a hellhole SwollenAnus' swamp would be if they picked Gillum? Shit, there would be BLM and ANTIFA soyboys coming after him... On second thought, maybe they should've voted Gillum.
 
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This is why these assholes on here are in denial. They genuinely think that righties are causing the violence it's rather insane.
I hope to see a RED WAVE in response to the protests. That video above shows that we need law and order right now more than anything else.
 
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Too nuanced for these right wingers to understand, unfortunately.

He will only hear "black people have it worse", and he REALLY doesn't want to hear that, and that's all he'll get out of that post. Unfortunately.

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Yeah, probably. People on both sides of this argument refuse to listen. Refuse to show empathy. I just don't understand how so many people, again on both sides of this, are so closed minded. It's un utter failure of communication.
 
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Yeah, probably. People on both sides of this argument refuse to listen. Refuse to show empathy. I just don't understand how so many people, again on both sides of this, are so closed minded. It's un utter failure of communication.

The problem with those on the left, is that they mind weaponizing the violence because it's supposed to "force" change on society in their eyes. So they think that the violence and the looting is okay. I haven't heard anyone on the right say that black lives don't matter and that the police shootings of innocent black people are okay. Police reform has to happen, but the entire defund the police movement is a scam. Defunding the police just increases crime and hurts more people.

I don't like everyone on the right, but at least they are not excusing the violence like many on the left who have only one thing to say, "but but but right wing violence is the main form of political violence". Yea maybe in the past, but as of these riots left wing violence has sky rocketed. Many supporters of BLM & ANTIFA on here have come out in support of the violence and have done little to nothing to condemn it.
 
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The problem with those on the left, is that they mind weaponizing the violence because it's supposed to "force" change on society in their eyes. So they think that the violence and the looting is okay. I haven't heard anyone on the right say that black lives don't matter and that the police shootings of innocent black people are okay. Police reform has to happen, but the entire defund the police movement is a scam. Defunding the police just increases crime and hurts more people.

I don't like everyone on the right, but at least they are not excusing the violence like many on the left who have only one thing to say, "but but but right wing violence is the main form of political violence". Yea maybe in the past, but as of these riots left wing violence has sky rocketed. Many supporters of BLM & ANTIFA on here have come out in support of the violence and have done little to nothing to condemn it.
You're not wrong. I don't disagree. I genuinely believe that if people would just calm the fuck down, listen, be empathetic, and really communicate with one another we'd find more common ground. Problem is when you start yelling at someone and threatening them, the listening stops and they're prepped for a fight. Both sides are guilty of starting shit. There is no one side does it more. Both sides are doing it at this point.
 
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You're not wrong. I don't disagree. I genuinely believe that if people would just calm the fuck down, listen, be empathetic, and really communicate with one another we'd find more common ground. Problem is when you start yelling at someone and threatening them, the listening stops and they're prepped for a fight. Both sides are guilty of starting shit. There is no one side does it more. Both sides are doing it at this point.

Can you show me cases where the right is being dismissive of actual police reform?

I think many are just tired of hearing this rhetoric of things like systematic racism and you're a racist if you're a white person no matter what, etc.
So you will have people speak out against that in addition to the violence. But unfortunately those on the left have been promoting this culture that everyone is racist and we just basically tear it all down as the only solution.

By the way, I'm a liberal, but the idiots on the left have been foaming at the mouth for so long that I find myself agreeing with some on the right. At least it's been easier to hold a civilized discussion with those on the right, as the ones on the left have been alienating anyone that does not agree with them.

The double standards and hypocrisy right now have been my breaking point, they have pushed their bullshit to the limit and many are fed up with it.

Look at these people singing outdoors being arrested while the violent riots are allowed to continue. I will agree that things like this will be the death of the left as more and more people are forced to vote against them.

 
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Can you show me cases where the right is being dismissive of actual police reform?

I think many are just tired of hearing this rhetoric of things like systematic racism and you're a racist if you're a white person no matter what, etc.
So you will have people speak out against that in addition to the violence. But unfortunately those on the left have been promoting this culture that everyone is racist and we just basically tear it all down as the only solution.

By the way, I'm a liberal, but the idiots on the left have been foaming at the mouth for so long that I find myself agreeing with some on the right. At least it's been easier to hold a civilized discussion with those on the right, as the ones on the left have been alienating anyone that does not agree with them.
I've got plenty of people that I work with that are very conservative and aren't really for reform. Anytime I hear someone stating that white people are automatically racist I dismiss them. Their opinions at that point are bullshit and I don't take them seriously. Just like anytime I hear someone say that systemic racism doesn't exist I also dismiss them and stop taking them seriously.

Defunding the police is fucking retarded idea. My idea is that cops need a 4 year degree. Colleges need to start programs for this. Make prospective cops take economics, psychology, ethics, black history, latino history, us history. Loads of other shit, learn 'em up.
 
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I'm sure people will die as a result of all this, it's certainly worrying to see militia members out on the streetsm but what else can happen? The police aren't being used because politicians don't want to give the rioters more ammunition but even then, the rioters don't respect the police and know they're not going to be heavy handed, so what's the alternative? To let the streets burn? People aren't just going to sit by and allow that to happen. I'm sure when a militia member shoots a rioter, the press will be talking about how wrong they were - just like in the Rittenhouse case - but it's not the militia members who wanted this fight. They don't want to be in a position where they have to defend places from arson and looting, but what alternative is there? Are the rioters respecting private and federal property? No. Are they respecting the police? No. So it's a last resort to protect society from thugs.

The narrative on this is so messed up though. I was listening to Tucker Carlson last night, he was talking about how left wing protestors were gathering outside Republican politician houses and threatening violence. He was completely right when he said that this only ever happens from the left to the right. You don't see the right incite start riots, intimidate politicians, threaten civilians without fear of repercussion. It's all from the left wing and then when right wingers push back, the narrative is that they're the aggressors.
Northern Ireland all over again. You're doing a good Ian Paisley impersonation there mate "Go to the police if it bothers you so much!' forget how they shoot you dead in the street and get caught covering up murders and taking part in them