Black Lives Matter...

BLM: Good or Bad?


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Jack

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It was completely predictable but the BLM presence in the UK has caused race relations to worsen, with just 17% disagreeing, according to a recent poll. The people behind BLM have got what they wanted though, it was never about ending racism or bringing people closer together, it was entirely about sowing seeds of division and it worked. The hobbyist victims shouldn't have been given the time of day, it was an entirely fabricated story because they wanted to latch onto issues elsewhere in the world.
 
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It was completely predictable but the BLM presence in the UK has caused race relations to worsen, with just 17% disagreeing, according to a recent poll. The people behind BLM have got what they wanted though, it was never about ending racism or bringing people closer together, it was entirely about sowing seeds of division and it worked. The hobbyist victims shouldn't have been given the time of day, it was an entirely fabricated story because they wanted to latch onto issues elsewhere in the world.
To sow seeds of division? Walk us through it.
 
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And so it begins BLM going after Biden supporters. You cannot make this shit up.
I called it earlier in this month... and of course the usual suspects came in screaming at me...

All the Dems had in common with BLM/Antifa was that they hated Trump.... The BLM Monster fed off the Trump hate...But now that the boogeyman is gone...The food supply is now empty...BLM monster must eat and the white Liberals and Dems are an easy meal.
 
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I called it earlier in this month... and of course the usual suspects came in screaming at me...

All the Dems had in common with BLM/Antifa was that they hated Trump.... The BLM Monster fed off the Trump hate...But now that the boogeyman is gone...The food supply is now empty...BLM monster must eat and the white Liberals and Dems are an easy meal.
Funny how Stevie swoops in and gives me the thumbs down? Was it for dissing Biden/Dems or for Dissing BLM... You said you don't support BLM because they are only out for the gays..... so....why exactly are you mad?
 
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Came to see what c00n shyt @Medicine was posting today, was not disappointed. I wonder how one must feel to hate half of one's self...
Never understood the whole coon thing from you and Bach.... Thats me in the Avy..Do I honestly look like an African American to you? And would you honestly take me serious if someone who looked like me tried to claim being an African American even if my mother is a light skinned Jamaican? Also if the cops pulled me over would they think I'm white or black?

Do I have some black blood? Yes. But I'm not fucking black and I think it would actually be an insult to try and claim to be.
 
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Never understood the whole coon thing from you and Bach.... Thats me in the Avy..Do I honestly look like an African American to you? And would you honestly take me serious if someone who looked like me tried to claim being an African American even if my mother is a light skinned Jamaican? Also if the cops pulled me over would they think I'm white or black?

Do I have some black blood? Yes. But I'm not fucking black and I think it would actually be an insult to try and claim to be.
What do you identify as?
 

steviebruno

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Never understood the whole coon thing from you and Bach.... Thats me in the Avy..Do I honestly look like an African American to you? And would you honestly take me serious if someone who looked like me tried to claim being an African American even if my mother is a light skinned Jamaican? Also if the cops pulled me over would they think I'm white or black?

Do I have some black blood? Yes. But I'm not fucking black and I think it would actually be an insult to try and claim to be.
You ain't white. :bart
 
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It was completely predictable but the BLM presence in the UK has caused race relations to worsen, with just 17% disagreeing, according to a recent poll. The people behind BLM have got what they wanted though, it was never about ending racism or bringing people closer together, it was entirely about sowing seeds of division and it worked. The hobbyist victims shouldn't have been given the time of day, it was an entirely fabricated story because they wanted to latch onto issues elsewhere in the world.
Race relations were already pretty low, I think the EDL, Robinson and Hopkins and their ilk has caused race relations to worsen, with their hatred spewing now being passed as 'Telling it like it is' How many of you saw this in mainstream news when it happened?
 

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Race relations were already pretty low, I think the EDL, Robinson and Hopkins and their ilk has caused race relations to worsen, with their hatred spewing now being passed as 'Telling it like it is' How many of you saw this in mainstream news when it happened?
Race relations are fine here, Robinson and Hopkins were concerned with Muslim rape gangs, BLM are irrelevant here.

Northern Ireland is two groups of white people, nothing to do with race
 
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What do you identify as?
If I fill out an application I normally just check "Two or more races". If some one asks me what I am then my reply would be "Irish, Italian and Jamaican".

The average person pretty much thinks I'm white, white people think I'm white and black people think I'm white just based off my appearance. every now and then someone might think I'm Hispanic. My dad is white (Irish/Italian) and my mother is Jamaican and she is basically a mix of British and black, she basically looks like a light skinned black person, her Parents were very well off and she grew up in the suburbs around mostly white people... Her parents have the Jamaican accents but they certainly don't act black or follow black culture. If someone asks I have no problem telling them I'm part black but I sure couldn't say I grew up with black culture or lived the "African American experience" if that makes sense.
 
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You ain't white. :bart
And that's fine Stevie, like I said I legally identify as "Two or more races". I'm basically just making the point that someone who looks like me and also with my background trying to pass as African American clearly would have some issues and also would clearly be someone pretending to be something they are not.

...No place of employment is going to think I'm black or discriminate against me based of my name on an application and no Police officer is going to pull me over and think I am a black male and discriminate against me because of that.... If I walked through some ritzy white neighborhood or the backwoods in Redneckville no one would think there is a black person passing through or call the cops on me.
 
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steviebruno

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And that's fine Stevie, like I said I legally identify as "Two or more races". I'm basically just making the point that someone who looks like me and also with my background trying to pass as African American clearly would have some issues and also would clearly be someone pretending to be something they are not.

My Legal name is ...No place of employment is going to think I'm black or discriminate against me based of my name on an application and no Police officer is going to pull me over and think I am a black male and discriminate against me because of that.... If I walked through some ritzy white neighborhood or the backwoods in Redneckville no one would think there is a black person passing through or call the cops on me.
... Why are you uncomfortable with your black side, @Medicine ? Let's explore this a bit.

... And don't put your legal name here. Lots of petty dudes in this place.
 
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... Why are you uncomfortable with your black side, @Medicine ? Let's explore this a bit.

... And don't put your legal name here. Lots of petty dudes in this place.
So lets breakdown my moms family. Both her parents moved here from Jamaica.. her father was a dentist and made very good money, they also lived in the suburbs outside of DC, her parents actually come off as kind of snobby and other than the Jamaican accents they pretty much blend right in with your typical crowd of suburban upper class white people. My mother grew up around white people, she acts white, talks white and likes everything a typical white woman would like from Tv shows, music, cloths ect. Also my mother has never said she was black if you ask she says that she is Jamaican...not sure if that is maybe a culture thing with Jamaicans or not.

My father was your typical hard nosed Philly Italian so most of my influence came from him... and with my mom being the way she was there was pretty much no black culture or influence in my house hold.

Now, I grew up in Philly so obviously I was around alot of black people... almost 100% of the time they would see me as a white guy. There was a worlds difference in their households and their mothers were extremely different from mine. When going into one of my white friends homes their fathers sounded, talked and acted just like mine...

In no way am I uncomfortable with my black side... but If I look as white as I do and talk like it as well then clearly I am going to have a much different experience in life then you would. I havent experienced blatant racism from anyone cause of being half black.

I just never tried to pass myself off as black because I certainly wasnt raised that way and how I look... but I have no problem telling people Im interracial.
 
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steviebruno

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So lets breakdown my moms family. Both her parents moved here from Jamaica.. her father was a dentist and made very good money, they also lived in the suburbs outside of DC, her parents actually come off as kind of snobby and other than the Jamaican accents they pretty much blend right in with your typical crowd of suburban upper class white people. My mother grew up around white people, she acts white, talks white and likes everything a typical white woman would like from Tv shows, music, cloths ect. Also my mother has never said she was black if you ask she says that she is Jamaican...not sure if that is maybe a culture thing with Jamaicans or not.

My father was your typical hard nosed Philly Italian so most of my influence came from him... and with my mom being the way she was there was pretty much no black culture or influence in my house hold.

Now, I grew up in Philly so obviously I was around alot of black people... almost 100% of the time they would see me as a white guy. There was a worlds difference in their households and their mothers were extremely different from mine. When going into one of my white friends homes their fathers sounded, talked and acted just like mine...

In no way am I uncomfortable with my black side... but If I look as white as I do and talk like it as well then clearly I am going to have a much different experience in life then you would. I havent experienced blatant racism from anyone cause of being half black.

I just never tried to pass myself off as black because I certainly wasnt raised that way and how I look... but I have no problem telling people Im interracial.
Is it possible that this upbringing somehow contributed to your views on issues facing blacks in America? In order for your mom to deny being black and so readily identify with "white culture", there may have been some sort of disdain towards black Americans. Your excuse is that you don't look black; well, what was your mom's? Has this ever been discussed?

What shows do black people watch? How do black people talk? How can one be comfortable with something that they've hardly ever experienced or explored to the point that one is able to identify nuances and idiosyncratic behaviors that render stereotypes inapplicable?

.... Erase your name. I'm editing my responses to do the same.
 
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Is it possible that this upbringing somehow contributed to your views on issues facing blacks in America? In order for your mom to deny being black and so readily identify with "white culture", there may have been some sort of disdain towards black Americans. Your excuse is that you don't look black; well, what was your mom's? Has this ever been discussed?

What shows do black people watch? How do black people talk? How can one be comfortable with something that they've hardly ever experienced or explored to the point that one is able to identify nuances and idiosyncratic behaviors that render stereotypes inapplicable?
As far as the discussions with my mom... she claims she has never dealt with racism from white people but has only experienced it with black people when she was younger who made fun of her light complexion and how she acted..she is also way more comfortable around white people than black people, she did mention one time about how she grew up during the Bussing in the schools in Maryland.. she said the Black girls from DC would beat up alot of the girls there including her..so not sure if that had any effect on her.. She was mostly always around white people including her parents so that might have made an impact on her especially with her only experience being with tough black girls from inner city DC so It might have given her the wrong impression when it comes to black people. Her family is real conservative too, completely against gays and have always voted Republican. I have also heard the whole "were not black were Jamaican from her parents as well".
 
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steviebruno

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As far as the discussions with my mom... she claims she has never dealt with racism from white people but has only experienced it with black people when she was younger who made fun of her light complexion and how she acted..she is also way more comfortable around white people than black people, she did mention one time about how she grew up during the Bussing in the schools in Maryland.. she said the Black girls from DC would beat up alot of the girls there including her..so not sure if that had any effect on her.. She was mostly always around white people including her parents so that might have made an impact on her especially with her only experience being with tough black girls from inner city DC so It might have given her the wrong impression when it comes to black people. Her family is real conservative too, completely against gays and have always voted Republican. I have also heard the whole "were not black were Jamaican from her parents as well".
That's unfortunate, then. It does almost seem that your mom was traumatized by her experiences with underprivileged black girls who were, quite likely, jealous of her light complexion and ability to blend with whites. I would certainly hope that her experiences with black Americans were not limited to school age interactions.

For what it's worth, many southern blacks are conservative and would probably vote Republican if their legislators weren't so overtly racist. Hell, many still do.

...Did your mom make Jamaican foods growing up? Like, expose you to her culture? My wife is Guyanese and her family is very adherent to their cultural upbringing. She even talks with her traditional accent around them. If I suggest that she isn't black, she takes offense to it, though. Her grandma was darker than me, but married an Indian guy.