Boris v Corbyn

Best PM would be

  • Corbyn

    Votes: 12 44.4%
  • Boris

    Votes: 15 55.6%

  • Total voters
    27
May 25, 2013
5,423
2,046
I honestly don't think either of them will be particularly good PM's.

Corbyn can't even run his own party properly, so I can't see him running the country, he's only in charge because of his popularity with the party membership but as Labour leader he's been inept. I've been a life long Labour supporter but I won't be voting Labour if he's leader in the next general election, the party seems to lack direction, for a politician who made his career on strong ideals he's led Labour to be a party of unclear ideas and messages.

As for Boris, well Boris is Boris. His bumbling idiot act while likable isn't something you want in a PM. He'll definitely a more entertaining PM and will be clearer on what his party will stand for under his leadership compared to Corbyn but I don't think he has the strength of personality to lead us post Brexit on the world stage.

Gun to my head I'd pick Corbyn, he'll be the least embarrassing person to lead us on the world stage in a post Brexit world. But I don't expect him to do a good job, far from it in fact.
 
Jun 17, 2012
5,039
2,949
Boris is man who would see a crowd running in direction, run to the front and shout "follow me". I caught that description from some former associate of his in the media in the last few days t it sums him up pretty well.

That said, despite Boris bombastic, leve the details for others to sort out style, he would still probably be more competent than Corbyn.

JC's world view hasn't much changed since about 1973 and I dont think I have seen a leader of a UK political party do such a bad job of uniting his own party as Corbyn. His leadership skills are slim to none and he relies on a leadership team of rather creepy hard left wing types like Seumas Milne to pull the levers behind him.

It's something of a moot point anyway I think, Corbyn mania has died down and his flaws have become more and more public. Slim to no chance of him reaching office at this point.
 
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Yaboo

Sith Lord
Mar 1, 2019
430
202
Johnson is going to make a fucking awful PM however, he is a much better option than Jezza.
 

McGrain

Diamond Dog
Jul 6, 2012
6,975
3,300
Very, very difficult.

Two was to judge a PM I think: how you personally feel about them, how they perform according to their own personal tenants - judging them by what they get done regardless of what you feel about whether it's good or bad.

In the first instance, there's no clear cut answer. Corbyn is the bigger risk, clearly. He could get up to all sorts of wild fucking madness. Boris, on the other hand, will be controlled by the usual suspects and do nothing that wild, while probably performing silly gaffs for me to enjoy. But the system is clearly broken, these idiots have not a clue - by a fraction, I'll go for Corbyn, but it's with a very heavy heart.

In the second instance, it's easy, Boris. Corbyn will announce a huge swathe of changes then the left will proceed to eat itself even if he had a totally united party he wouldn't be able to get half of what he wants done done. So strangely, even though Boris won't change much and Corbyn will change a fair bit, that's Boris. The other thing that's interesting though is what happens with the Conservative party. If the Conservatives can hold it together for a couple of elections I think they'll dominate for two generations. Europe was always the only thing that seriously divided them and for better or worse that argument should be over in 2021. Then again, Boris is almost certainly not the right man for that task.

Fuck, I dont' know. Sophie's Choice.
 

mandela

CHB Führer
May 16, 2013
22,103
9,812
Scotland
Corbyn.

Easily.

Fuck sake. What a stupid question and anyone pretending otherwise is a cunt.

Whether you agree with their politics or not the basis of this decision is simple. Corbyn will try and make decisions that benefit most people in the 4 countries (or at least England) rightly or wrongly. On the other hand, Boris is an absolute cunt of a human being who not only couldn't give a single fuck about the majority of people he actively despises those he sees as a lower class to himself and he'd make decisions based on that.

Stupid question.
 
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Setanta

BAD MOTHERFUCKER
May 24, 2013
6,501
2,083
Emain Macha
Neither one is PM material, but both are more qualified for the post than the American president is for his.

Clearly Corbyn would be a better choice for the majority of the electorate.

That doesn't mean they'll grasp that and put him in.
 
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kf3

Jul 17, 2012
4,277
2,106
South London
i don't know that boris was a good mayor overall but people who didn't vote for him have told me he gave a good effort at making his campaign promises happen, mostly via sensible personnel choices.

that said, definitely neither.
 

Wordup

The Count of Monte Fisto
May 16, 2013
5,342
2,036
Rotherham, South Yorkshire
Corbyn.

Easily.

Fuck sake. What a stupid question and anyone pretending otherwise is a cunt.

Whether you agree with their politics or not the basis of this decision is simple. Corbyn will try and make decisions that benefit most people in the 4 countries (or at least England) rightly or wrongly. On the other hand, Boris is an absolute cunt of a human being who not only couldn't give a single fuck about the majority of people he actively despises those he sees as a lower class to himself and he'd make decisions based on that.

Stupid question.
This.

It’s so fucking obvious it’s painful.
 

Ernest Shackleton

Moderate Assadist
Jun 8, 2013
14,910
5,397
This.

It’s so fucking obvious it’s painful.
Why is it ‘so fuckin obvious’?

We can only judge a leader by their record.

Corbyn has had one excellent run of 6 weeks in 3 years, the 2017 campaign against an abysmal opponent in May.

Other than that he has fucked off most of his MPs and has his party dominated by anti semitism.

After 9 years of a government which has dominated by austerity and Brexit Corbyn currently leads his party in 4th place in the polls at an historic low of 18%, this is coupled with the most negative approval poll any leader has ever had for a political leader
 

Dazl1212

Ripley, strong independent woman who don't no man
May 16, 2013
19,293
5,709
UK
i know you support your team, but be real.

it's a bad choice between a vaugley competent buffoon who represents the establishment and a ideologically driven guy who we know for a fact will give important positions to utterly useless racist communists.
Nailed it.
 

Wordup

The Count of Monte Fisto
May 16, 2013
5,342
2,036
Rotherham, South Yorkshire
i know you support your team, but be real.

it's a bad choice between a vaugley competent buffoon who represents the establishment and a ideologically driven guy who we know for a fact will give important positions to utterly useless racist communists.
Boris Johnson isn’t vaguely competent at all. He’s completely incompetent. A supremely arrogant narcissist who thinks he’s entitled to be the Prime Minister because of his upbringing. He is a feckless, idle, demagogue who’ll breeze into number 10 with hardly any scrutiny and a complete lack of moral compass.

Compare that to Corbyn. A man that has spent his entire career as a politician trying to do the right thing, a man who didn’t get into politics for self aggrandisement, but wanted to make a difference. Some of his choices in the shadow cabinet are an embarrassment, and I hope to fuck he gets rid of them (Abbott, Shah).

But the binary choice between an entitled, self enriching embarrassment, and someone who would enact policies designed to help the vast majority of the country is a pretty easy choice to make.
 
Nov 19, 2018
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Boris Johnson isn’t vaguely competent at all. He’s completely incompetent. A supremely arrogant narcissist who thinks he’s entitled to be the Prime Minister because of his upbringing. He is a feckless, idle, demagogue who’ll breeze into number 10 with hardly any scrutiny and a complete lack of moral compass.

Compare that to Corbyn. A man that has spent his entire career as a politician trying to do the right thing, a man who didn’t get into politics for self aggrandisement, but wanted to make a difference. Some of his choices in the shadow cabinet are an embarrassment, and I hope to fuck he gets rid of them (Abbott, Shah).

But the binary choice between an entitled, self enriching embarrassment, and someone who would enact policies designed to help the vast majority of the country is a pretty easy choice to make.
:lol:
 
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The Count of Monte Fisto
May 16, 2013
5,342
2,036
Rotherham, South Yorkshire
Why is it ‘so fuckin obvious’?

We can only judge a leader by their record.

Corbyn has had one excellent run of 6 weeks in 3 years, the 2017 campaign against an abysmal opponent in May.

Other than that he has fucked off most of his MPs and has his party dominated by anti semitism.

After 9 years of a government which has dominated by austerity and Brexit Corbyn currently leads his party in 4th place in the polls at an historic low of 18%, this is coupled with the most negative approval poll any leader has ever had for a political leader
You mean the 6 weeks where the media where required by law to let him get his message across, the 6 weeks where he pretty much campaigned alone while the the centre/right Blairites sharpened their daggers expecting to stab him in the back when May obliterated him?
 
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The Count of Monte Fisto
May 16, 2013
5,342
2,036
Rotherham, South Yorkshire
Neither one is PM material, but both are more qualified for the post than the American president is for his.

Clearly Corbyn would be a better choice for the majority of the electorate.

That doesn't mean they'll grasp that and put him in.
Triggering lefties is the most important government policy nowadays. Fuck the the NHS, annoying SJWs is the real vote winner.

Cunts.
 
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