Boxing Scoring FAQ and Discussion

zoe

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I think youre taking harold ledermans words a little too literal.
Probably.

Also I confess I didn't read the entire reddit thread, but I wonder if he might be making a generality about casual fans. I have found a few times watching a fight with a casual fan and they just count power shots... and that's it.
 

Juiceboxbiotch

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@Juiceboxbiotch How did you score round 5 of Joshua vs Wlad?
I didn't score the fight initially... but I took a look at round 5 real quick at your request. I would have scored it 10-8 for Joshua. Klitschko did have him hurt in the last minute of the round but it was short of the domination required to null the point deduction for the knockdown.
 
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Harold Lederman often states that clean punching is given the highest precedence. There's a good video with him explaining it.

It IS simple. Who did the most damage in the round? Who landed the most effective punches? Volume shouldn't come into it unless the gap is so huge it's clear.

Except, that's not what the actual rules say.

Sadly, the rules are extremely murky in this area, and not quite the same for every organization. (Try ascertaining what specifically constitutes a foul. - And good luck to you! ) - Most, including the Unified rules, follow the original MDQ outline, but with their own small variations and additions.

It's obvious that the people in charge don't WANT the rules to be clear, as this lets them get away with robberies more easily.

Same as it ever was.
 
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Juiceboxbiotch

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I've been thinking about big high profile fights, and ways the sport could give fans more confidence in decisions and the judges who render them.

What if there were 9 judges in stead of 3?... with 4 judges at ringside (one on each side of the ring), and the other 3 judges watching on closed circuit television with no audio, no graphics, and no replays... just the raw broadcast with camera angle changes.

I feel like if this, or something like it, were implemented.. it would prevent one terrible judge from mucking up the entire decision. It would also highlight the differences between sitting ringside and having access to the camera angles the viewers at home have, but without the commentary and crowd noise that contributes to bias. Don't you think the quality of decisions would go up, as well as confidence in the integrity of those decisions?
 

zoe

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I've been thinking about big high profile fights, and ways the sport could give fans more confidence in decisions and the judges who render them.

What if there were 9 judges in stead of 3?... with 4 judges at ringside (one on each side of the ring), and the other 3 judges watching on closed circuit television with no audio, no graphics, and no replays... just the raw broadcast with camera angle changes.

I feel like if this, or something like it, were implemented.. it would prevent one terrible judge from mucking up the entire decision. It would also highlight the differences between sitting ringside and having access to the camera angles the viewers at home have, but without the commentary and crowd noise that contributes to bias. Don't you think the quality of decisions would go up, as well as confidence in the integrity of those decisions?
I feel like the biggest and best change would just be angle. If the 3 judges could get a better angle that change could make a huge difference. I don't think we need more judges.
 

Trail

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I feel like the biggest and best change would just be angle. If the 3 judges could get a better angle that change could make a huge difference. I don't think we need more judges.
I think not letting Adelaide Byrd near a boxing ring would be a step forward/in the right direction.

I like boxing and dogs, Zoe. Wanna get together?
 

zoe

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The government made that figure up, fuck 'em.

I'll give you first dibs on what first date fight we watch. No HW unless it's Mike though.
I'd sit down for some Tyson fights, anything to get through this lockdown. I'd want to watch his first 10 or so big fights, which is easy because they were all so short. Also I'm sure there's a Lennox Lewis fight you'd re-watch.

I can't believe I'm answering this. Things are bleak the world over I suppose.
 
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Trail

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I'd sit down for some Tyson fights, anything to get through this lockdown. I'd want to watch his first 10 or so big fights, which is easy because they were all so short. Also I'm sure there's a Lennox Lewis fight you'd re-watch.

I can't believe I'm answering this. Things are bleak the world over I suppose.
I have a Tyson career set, I was labelling it the other week. I watched Fight 1, Hector Mercedes through to Jim Douglas in a night, all 1 minute shoot out early doors. I'm not bothered for Lennox Lewis fights to be fair, I'd watch the Holy fight again for the controversy though. But it's your choice. You fetch yourself and the dog, I'll supply the fights, food and your ale.

I insist we watch at least one Jorge Paez fight, though.
 
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Trail

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Been busy as fuck today so only watched three fights...

The first three fights of their four were fucking belters - Izzy/Rafa.



Then this one...The sheer heartbreak. Gets me every time I watch it...



Last (until later tonight), a hero of mine overcomes massive cut...

 
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Trail

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Just started this. Never as good as their first fight, but, hey...few are...


Some excellent singing of the Mexican national anthem here.


 
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