Can Kovalev send the Alien back to Space?

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After another dominant stoppage win over an undefeated fighter in Caparello, more and more fans are starting to recognise Sergey Kovalev as the man at Light Heavyweight. With dominant wins over the likes of Campillo and Cleverly, and other decent contenders such as Agnew, Sillakh and Caparello, whilst remaining undefeated, Kovalev has built up an impressive record. However, similar to middleweight destroyer Golovkin, Kovalev is in need of a marquee name to bring him recognition in America. Unified IBF and WBA Light Heavyweight champion and legend of the game, Bernard Hopkins is exactly the kind of high profile fight that could launch Kovalev into superstardom, and bring along with it the big paydays that a fighter of Kovalev's ability deserves.


After Kovalev's win over Caparello, Hopkins and Kovalev stood side by side and confirmed that they have agreed to face each other on November 8th. For Hopkins, he has the opportunity to further cement his legacy, and get one step closer to achieving his dream of becoming the first man to be undisputed champion at two different weight divisions, all whilst proving that age is just a number at 49 years old. For Kovalev, it's the chance for him to beat a marquee fighter and win Hopkins belts. The winner of this fight, will no doubt turn their attention to WBC and Ring Magazine champion Adonis Stevenson, who is apparently fighting Jean Pascal next.


The difficulty here for Krusher, is that Bernard Hopkins has carved out a legacy for himself over the last 8 years as boxing's ultimate bogeyman, as he gets older, promoters keep trying to use him to catapult their fighters into stardom, and Hopkins keeps on defying the odds and in some cases ruining these young champions, as he has done with Kelly Pavlik, Jean Pascal and more recently Tavoris Cloud. There is a pattern here, all three of those fighters were strong punchers, who apply lots of pressure and go for the knockout. All of them were flat footed, and limited technically. These are similar criticisms that have been labelled at Kovalev, so does Hopkins see these same flaws? Is that why he's gone for Kovalev over Stevenson?


Personally, whilst on the surface Kovalev can look crude, and flat footed, I personally think he's a very well schooled boxer, he's very patient, uses feints, controls distance well and knows how to cut the ring off. In the fight with Nathan Cleverly, early on Cleverly was keeping him at arm's length with a long jab, Kovalev however adjusted to Cleverly's timing, and managed to get Cleverly to stand in his range and that's how he picked him apart with right crosses and left hooks to the body. When Kovalev has his opponents hurt, he is a joy to watch when switching his attack to both head and body and his 88% KO ratio is proof of that. If he can cut the ring off effectively against Hopkins, and get him to stand and trade as he did against Murat and even Shumenov at times, Kovalev can hurt Hopkins, and while I wouldn't bet him stopping the legend, it's definitely possible. I have gone against Hopkins and looked silly before, but I think this may be a step too far, and I think Kovalev will win on points.[/COLOR]


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What does everyone think?
 

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I think most have Kovalev as the favourite and I'm pretty sure the betting odds will reflect that as well the real question is how many think Hopkins can beat Kovalev, not the other way around
 
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I think most have Kovalev as the favourite and I'm pretty sure the betting odds will reflect that as well the real question is how many think Hopkins can beat Kovalev, not the other way around

I think Hopkins is capable, if he can counter Kovalev and make Kovalev over reach he can punish him. To be fair, Kovalev hasn't faced a quality counter puncher yet


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I don't see Bernard not getting hit flush for 12 rounds and Kovalev doesn't need much to end it

That said I'll never pick against Hopkins considering how wrong he can make us

My question is does Kovalev get discouraged or slow his pace if Hopkins gives him a tough look

Whose better equipped for 12 the guy pushing 50 or the guy who KOs everyone early

Could be a crap shoot after 6 rounds

Can Hopkins hurt Kovalev is the big question

Ppl say it's another Pavlik fight

Hopkins is considerably older and slower and Kovalev is more dangerous

Tough fight to pick
 
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Hopkins is like one of my favorite fighters. I think he's biting off more than he can chew here. I think Kovalev might knock him out, honestly.

[MENTION=2009]KO KIDD (ESB EX-Patriot)[/MENTION], above me got something right about this fight. Kovalev has hurt dudes without even landing all that flush (Agnew with a fucking jab for example).

I'd be surprised if Hopkins win this fight, and I would also give him all the credit in the world for accomplishing such a feat at his age.
 
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Hopkins is like one of my favorite fighters. I think he's biting off more than he can chew here. I think Kovalev might knock him out, honestly.

[MENTION=2009]KO KIDD (ESB EX-Patriot)[/MENTION], above me got something right about this fight. Kovalev has hurt dudes without even landing all that flush (Agnew with a fucking jab for example).

I'd be surprised if Hopkins win this fight, and I would also give him all the credit in the world for accomplishing such a feat at his age.
I think in most scenarios I'd pick Kovalev without looking back but 2 things sit in my mind

Kovalev never fought a shoulder roll counter puncher like Hopkins,, it's true Hopkins is one of a kind and no one can really prep you for him but he hasn't fought a style close to Hopkins

Hopkins well he's Hopkins and despite his age I'm not likely to pick against him sure Cloud and Shumenov are careful title maneuvers but whose Agnew Caperello and Sillahk

I wanna say I'm feeling 55-45 Kovalev
 

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I think in most scenarios I'd pick Kovalev without looking back but 2 things sit in my mind

Kovalev never fought a shoulder roll counter puncher like Hopkins,, it's true Hopkins is one of a kind and no one can really prep you for him but he hasn't fought a style close to Hopkins

Hopkins well he's Hopkins and despite his age I'm not likely to pick against him sure Cloud and Shumenov are careful title maneuvers but whose Agnew Caperello and Sillahk

I wanna say I'm feeling 55-45 Kovalev
But Hopkins has seen many guys like kovalev... Kovalev doesn't know what he's getting into...

Age may just catch up to Hopkins though..

I think kovalev has a shot.. 60/40 Hopkins wins..

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But Hopkins has seen many guys like kovalev... Kovalev doesn't know what he's getting into...

Age may just catch up to Hopkins though..

I think kovalev has a shot.. 60/40 Hopkins wins..



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No he hasn't. We are talking about a fighter who has knocked out several opponents with a jab to the liver.
 

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No he hasn't. We are talking about a fighter who has knocked out several opponents with a jab to the liver.
Maybe I still think Hopkins saw something in that fight where kovalev struggled. Maybe that shot is different but Hopkins had seen his style before many a times...

I favor Hopkins but not by much as I see what kovalev brings and the variables with age, kovas power punch selection etc

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I think in most scenarios I'd pick Kovalev without looking back but 2 things sit in my mind

Kovalev never fought a shoulder roll counter puncher like Hopkins,, it's true Hopkins is one of a kind and no one can really prep you for him but he hasn't fought a style close to Hopkins

Hopkins well he's Hopkins and despite his age I'm not likely to pick against him sure Cloud and Shumenov are careful title maneuvers but whose Agnew Caperello and Sillahk

I wanna say I'm feeling 55-45 Kovalev
Watch the Murat fight. In the 3rd round, Hopkins get caught with a big shot that hurts him. Luckily, Murat isn't a huge puncher like Kovalev and it just hurt Hopkins some but was able to recover.

Go to ~0:56

[video=youtube;cGLDPa8zP_o]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGLDPa8zP_o[/video]

Murat actually threw around Hopkins' guard. Similarly, Kovalev hurts/knocksdown Agnew in the second round by throwing around his high guard. If Kovalev isn't too bewildered by the shoulder-roll, I think he can try to mimic what Murat had some success with; although, Hopkins adjusted which caused Murat to throw wildly. It isn't like Kovalev sucks at throwing around people's guard; he did somewhat similar to Cleverly when he was hurt and tried to shield himself with his high-guard.

As we both agree, Kovalev doesn't need to land flush to hurt anyone. His power is for real.

One thing Hopkins needs to worry about is throwing with Kovalev. He caught Boone, Campillo, Sillakh, and if I remember, Cleverly while they were throwing with him.
 
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Here's the thing:

Kovalev hits like a tank. Opponents and sparring partners have all said he hits harder than any other fighter they've ever faced. - And he does so with both hands.

Hopkins can put that shoulder up all night, he can keep the right low & tucked, he can dance all he wants, he can get up close & dirty. It doesn't matter. Kovalev will unload on his arms, on his gloves, on his shoulders. After 5-6 rounds of that, old man Hopkins will be dinner.

Stick a fork in him and open the champagne.
 

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I think Hopkins is capable, if he can counter Kovalev and make Kovalev over reach he can punish him. To be fair, Kovalev hasn't faced a quality counter puncher yet


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Kovalev's punching form is super clean he won't overreach to land shots ever. Hopkins' cardio also isn't what it used to be I'm not even talking about young Hopkins who fought at a high pace at midrange and on the inside I'm talking his cardio is worse than the pot shotting version of his that fought Tarver or even Pascal. In his last few fights his punching volume declined again.
He won't be able to run for 12 rounds her's to old to do that he he hasn't been able to throw in high volume for a long time.
So how can he get Kovalev to overcommit and go recklessly after him? Hopkins will be infront of Kovalev all night long he still has the technique to move but he can't move a lot or fast.
Cedric Agnew wasn't the greatest fight but he was defensively sound and a good counterpuncher (on top of being a southpaw). He wasn't similar to Hopkins in terms of style but he brought similar qualities and Kovalev didn't get caught with much.
And Campillo showed that Kovalev doesn't have much issue with movers.
Also Hopkins will again be older than he was when he fought Shumenov and even 2 fights ago Murat was able to catch him with some shots
 
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Watch the Murat fight. In the 3rd round, Hopkins get caught with a big shot that hurts him. Luckily, Murat isn't a huge puncher like Kovalev and it just hurt Hopkins some but was able to recover.

Go to ~0:56

[video=youtube;cGLDPa8zP_o]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGLDPa8zP_o[/video]

Murat actually threw around Hopkins' guard. Similarly, Kovalev hurts/knocksdown Agnew in the second round by throwing around his high guard. If Kovalev isn't too bewildered by the shoulder-roll, I think he can try to mimic what Murat had some success with; although, Hopkins adjusted which caused Murat to throw wildly. It isn't like Kovalev sucks at throwing around people's guard; he did somewhat similar to Cleverly when he was hurt and tried to shield himself with his high-guard.

As we both agree, Kovalev doesn't need to land flush to hurt anyone. His power is for real.

One thing Hopkins needs to worry about is throwing with Kovalev. He caught Boone, Campillo, Sillakh, and if I remember, Cleverly while they were throwing with him.
Nice example.
 
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Here's the thing:

Kovalev hits like a tank. Opponents and sparring partners have all said he hits harder than any other fighter they've ever faced. - And he does so with both hands.

Hopkins can put that shoulder up all night, he can keep the right low & tucked, he can dance all he wants, he can get up close & dirty. It doesn't matter. Kovalev will unload on his arms, on his gloves, on his shoulders. After 5-6 rounds of that, old man Hopkins will be dinner.

Stick a fork in him and open the champagne.
Good point.