Child Protectors Scotland

McGrain

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Jul 6, 2012
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Holy shit these boys put the blade in:lol:

"I just want you to confirm, that this is a picture of your....what's that gonna to tae anyone?" :lol:


Controversial stuff all this, this paedophile hunting. The basic formula is a buckshee version of To Catch A Predator. They put someone online to pretend to be a 12-14 year old girl (in itself a bit fucked up) and then they stage a sting at the agreed meeting place. Then they call the cops, corner the cunt, live stream him on Facebook, and ritually humiliate him while they wait for the cops to turn up, at which point, show's over.

There's absolutely no arguing with the fact that the ritual humiliation is even more hideous when read in a Scottish accent.

It's hard not to feel sorry for the sting - then you remember that they are literally there to rape a child.

Here's a Perth/Dundee local newspaper article about this crew:

https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/local/perth-kinross/814243/perth-man-snared-by-controversial-paedophile-hunting-group-under-police-investigation/?fbclid=IwAR1-Szp5h09KIRwziyuAqxi9Tb-3eDgiWGLnUKVdpkEk130RNugzUPjyJ-E

Police are neither overjoyed nor kiboshing them. It'll be interesting to see where this ends up, but it's got some legs.
 
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Remember we did this back on ESB, some guy posted up a link to a chatroom and then said to create a username that makes it quite obvious you are a 13 year old girl and just wait for the response.

Within minutes, probably less I got hit with half a dozen private message chat windows from creepy old guys... it was fucking scary.

I couldn't even bring myself to chat with them but some of the lads there strung them along for ages and posted the chat logs in the thread.
 

McGrain

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Remember we did this back on ESB, some guy posted up a link to a chatroom and then said to create a username that makes it quite obvious you are a 13 year old girl and just wait for the response.

Within minutes, probably less I got hit with half a dozen private message chat windows from creepy old guys... it was fucking scary.
Jesus H Christ, that IS scary. Fucking internet. If cops aren't doing that it's a good thing that pedo-hunters or whatever are hard at work. Because someone should be doing it.

Why is there so little interest from the powers that be in catching loads of pedos and weirdos who are into kids and locking them up forever more? There'd be universal support for it. Stuck on vote-winner. But no movement.
 
Jul 29, 2012
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This sort of stuff was going round herea while back:


Basically just fucking stupid, yes of course I don't sympathise with the sting either, but these people and their videos just causes problems down the line in terms of courts, juries, and actual fuckin police investigations.
 

McGrain

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Jul 6, 2012
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This sort of stuff was going round herea while back:


Basically just fucking stupid, yes of course I don't sympathise with the sting either, but these people and their videos just causes problems down the line in terms of courts, juries, and actual police investigations.
Are you sure? I mean if that's the case, why don't the police shut down those pages? And why don't Facebook? I mean if that's true (not saying it's not) what you're saying is that Facebook are allowing people to use their pages to sabotage court cases against pedos?

I think the reason I disagree is that nobody else is dong this work. These people are trying to prevent these guys interfering with children. What your'e describing is them fucking up a court case where a rape has already occurred?
 
Jul 29, 2012
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Are you sure? I mean if that's the case, why don't the police shut down those pages? And why don't Facebook? I mean if that's true (not saying it's not) what you're saying is that Facebook are allowing people to use their pages to sabotage court cases against pedos?

I think the reason I disagree is that nobody else is dong this work. These people are trying to prevent these guys interfering with children. What your'e describing is them fucking up a court case where a rape has already occurred?
I don't know exactly the ins and outs, but when it started happening around here (it was a trend for a while), the PSNI said:

Detective Chief Superintendent Paula Hilman, head of the PSNI Public Protection Branch, said evidence from so-called paedophile hunters had not led to a single successful prosecution in Northern Ireland.

"We would ask online child sexual abuse activist groups not to make arrangements to meet individuals or share that information online," she said.

"Instead, they should bring any information they have about the identity of any person they believe to be engaged in sexual offences against children to the police immediately so that we can convert it into evidence and ensure a thorough investigation that has the best chance of producing a charge and successful prosecution. To date there have been no prosecutions regarding any evidence brought to PSNI by any online child sexual abuse activist group."

A spokesperson for the PSNI added: "Police arrested a 51-year-old man in the Main Street area of Ballymoney on Sunday on suspicion of attempted sexual communication with a child. He has since been released under strict police bail pending further inquiries. Officers are also investigating a link to a report of criminal damage at a house in the town a short time later."

And it just seems sensible that vigilantism is not a good thing in the long run. I don't know if there has been a fucked up court case in terms of literal rape, but whta I mean is that they should send the info to the police instead of videoing it and putting it online....could be wrong myself, but I was told that releasing the stuff online can cause problems in terms of getting an impartial jury to properly convict, and could potentially give the defense lawyer in such a case something to go on in the sense of lack of fair trial etc.
 

Hagler

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These guys do a great job, i just find it weird 99% of the people the catch are white?? i thought only Muslims did the noncing, that's what all the Gammon say, must be fake news..
 
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Hagler

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I don't know exactly the ins and outs, but when it started happening around here (it was a trend for a while), the PSNI said:

Detective Chief Superintendent Paula Hilman, head of the PSNI Public Protection Branch, said evidence from so-called paedophile hunters had not led to a single successful prosecution in Northern Ireland.

"We would ask online child sexual abuse activist groups not to make arrangements to meet individuals or share that information online," she said.

"Instead, they should bring any information they have about the identity of any person they believe to be engaged in sexual offences against children to the police immediately so that we can convert it into evidence and ensure a thorough investigation that has the best chance of producing a charge and successful prosecution. To date there have been no prosecutions regarding any evidence brought to PSNI by any online child sexual abuse activist group."

A spokesperson for the PSNI added: "Police arrested a 51-year-old man in the Main Street area of Ballymoney on Sunday on suspicion of attempted sexual communication with a child. He has since been released under strict police bail pending further inquiries. Officers are also investigating a link to a report of criminal damage at a house in the town a short time later."

And it just seems sensible that vigilantism is not a good thing in the long run. I don't know if there has been a fucked up court case in terms of literal rape, but whta I mean is that they should send the info to the police instead of videoing it and putting it online....could be wrong myself, but I was told that releasing the stuff online can cause problems in terms of getting an impartial jury to properly convict, and could potentially give the defense lawyer in such a case something to go on in the sense of lack of fair trial etc.
All the more reason to get a few kicks in off camera..
 
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Jul 24, 2012
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Jesus H Christ, that IS scary. Fucking internet. If cops aren't doing that it's a good thing that pedo-hunters or whatever are hard at work. Because someone should be doing it.

Why is there so little interest from the powers that be in catching loads of pedos and weirdos who are into kids and locking them up forever more? There'd be universal support for it. Stuck on vote-winner. But no movement.
It was fucking terrifying, honestly... I think I'm pretty internet-hardened, seen all manner of horrific shit but that one really messed with me... I dipped right out of that thread.

You would have to think there are cop units monitoring this stuff but the sheer number of hits I got in such a short space of time makes you think there's no fear in these animals at all, so it can't be that well monitored. Surely it would be worth setting up teams to just constantly run these stings and track pedo groups, set up stings on the dark web and all that.
 

McGrain

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Surely it would be worth setting up teams to just constantly run these stings and track pedo groups, set up stings on the dark web and all that.
Surely there are. Man i really hope there are. You could do it with volunteers. But then what a clusterfuck that would end up being tbf.
 
Jul 24, 2012
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These guys do a great job, i just find it weird 99% of the people the catch are white?? i thought only Muslims did the noncing, that's what all the Gammon say, must be fake news..
Yes, it's all fake news those muslim pedo gangs which are being brought to courts on a near monthly basis ... dozens of them at a time... not really an issue because there are still white pedos out there too... thanks for reminding me what a fucking piece of shit you are.

Are you seriously trying to suggest that the disproportionate number of Muslim men forming gangs in which they clearly target the children of specific races and religions to ply them with drugs and rape them, in unprecedented numbers all over England is't really a problem or being exaggerated because the pedos are Muslims?

Tell me Hagler, if there were an equal number of Muslim children being targeted and raped by gangs of white men or Sikh Indians, I'm talking an equal number, not adjusting to suit the demographics of the country... do you think this might be something you'd have a problem with, want to draw attention to or be screaming your fucking head off about?

and you know what, you would be justified doing it.
 
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A lad who used to live around the corner from me got stung at the local bus station. Was always a bit of a weird cunt. Think he's married to an Indian girl.

Another cunt had a mob outside his mother's house. I don't know any of them (or him, other than to see) but apparently they're a lovely family. Would do anything for you. He's a creep though. Would always be hanging around the local football pitch when the underage teams were playing. However, guilty or not, having a mob turn up outside his mothers house baying for blood on absolute hearsay is out of order.
 
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Squire

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They're doing a good thing but not going about it the right way and probably not entirely doing it for the right reasons. If they wanted to lock these people up they'd record everything and give it to the police when it becomes incriminating enough. Or they'd meet their paedo, film it and then not upload the video to protect the case. Instead they upload everything for efame and virtue signalling
 

McGrain

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Jul 6, 2012
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They're doing a good thing but not going about it the right way and probably not entirely doing it for the right reasons. If they wanted to lock these people up they'd record everything and give it to the police when it becomes incriminating enough. Or they'd meet their paedo, film it and then not upload the video to protect the case. Instead they upload everything for efame and virtue signalling
Yeah, I understand what you're saying, but what happens with these guys is they turn over their evidence and they are generally arrested by police.

Then they get bail.

Then these guys run into them again in the chat rooms.

What's happening here is that they publicly shame them, destroy them in their communities, shame them forever. It's not very nice and it may not be conducive to legal, I don't know (but they do get arrested - the idea that the police would be along without them isn't one i'm reading), but it's effective.

The fifty-eight year old man above wanted to fuck a 14 year old girl. Now everybody hates him and he'll probably score a kick-in. Sounds about right.
 

mandela

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Is it a crime to arrange to meet an adult who is pretending to be a 14 year old?

Serious question.

I'm not sure how this leads to criminal proceedings?
 

TFG

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Is it a crime to arrange to meet an adult who is pretending to be a 14 year old?

Serious question.

I'm not sure how this leads to criminal proceedings?
Well if you're agreeing to meet someone you believe to be 14 off the Internet, you're probably going to have some incriminating evidence attached to you, which upon investigation, would lead to criminal proceedings.

If you're sending dick pics to someone you who believe is a 14 year old girl, then you're clearly a nonce and there will be evidence to prove it.

I imagine it's the subsequent results of the investigation that would dictate the proceedings, rather than the actual agreed meeting. That's what I'd imagine any way.
 
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