China throws 80% tariffs @ Australia

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I think the world leaders realize that they've become too dependent on China, but they can't get out... At least for now. I think there has to be a global withdrawal of manufacturing away from China, but this has to happen slowly over the next 10+ years.
The Chinese have encroached so deep in our societies and our economies have become so intertwined with theirs that I'm afraid we will not be able to withdraw from our dependent on China.
Look at the number of Western companies that were purchased by China the last 20 years.
They've began to entrode in Holywood. Very soon they'll use this medium to infiltrate our culture and begin to shape our thoughts and political opinions.
The hold 1/4 of dept.
In fact it could be argued the last 40 years was the largest transfer of human capital in history between Western corporations and China. Human capital that would have taken Chine a century to achieve had it not been for greedy Western industries.
Confronting China will take a coalition of countries. unfortunately China has established deep economic partnership with so many countries, especially in the 3rd world that I'm afraid these countries will not be willing to risk their economic stability to participate in any such confrontation.
 

Clarence Worley

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China play the long game. What a shock.

Hong Kong was the perfect example and you all just laughed t the fall of the British empire because ... racism’.
 
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The Chinese have encroached so deep in our societies and our economies have become so intertwined with theirs that I'm afraid we will not be able to withdraw from our dependent on China.
Look at the number of Western companies that were purchased by China the last 20 years.
They've began to entrode in Holywood. Very soon they'll use this medium to infiltrate our culture and begin to shape our thoughts and political opinions.
The hold 1/4 of dept.
In fact it could be argued the last 40 years was the largest transfer of human capital in history between Western corporations and China. Human capital that would have taken Chine a century to achieve had it not been for greedy Western industries.
Confronting China will take a coalition of countries. unfortunately China has established deep economic partnership with so many countries, especially in the 3rd world that I'm afraid these countries will not be willing to risk their economic stability to participate in any such confrontation.
I'm not necessarily 'worried' about China. Though it shits me to tears how much of our land and resources the government is selling off to them.

You only need to look at the reports of Chinese nationals and Chinese companies that began mass purchasing PPE and what not when the rona pandemic started up and were shipping them back to the mainland. I'm sure I sure on 60 Minutes, A Current Affair or one of those kind of shows that even like accounting firms and stuff that were chinese owned began doing shit like that.
 
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Look I'm far from knowledgeable on these sort of topics and I could be way off....

But isn't one of the reasons China is so big on trying to buy up foreign land because they have so little amount of natural resources themselves?

Like they buy up Australian mining land because they have no iron ore of their own?

Australia should just tell them to fuck off. We'll start reclaiming the lands if they don't drop tariffs.
Or at the very least tell China they Chinese nationals cannot "buy" anything in Australia. They can lease it but can never own. We can't own property over there. Should flip that back on them.
 
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I think the world leaders realize that they've become too dependent on China, but they can't get out... At least for now. I think there has to be a global withdrawal of manufacturing away from China, but this has to happen slowly over the next 10+ years.
For sure,and you are bang on with it being slow.It needs to be a tactical withdrawal and build more avenues in that time.

Was all fun and games when they were a pretty silent partner in all this but the more vocal and brazen they become the more cuck we will look.
 
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Playing the long game here do we reckon China has made the right move?

They’ve definitely got a lot of the world by the nuts now but like Touché said, leaders are realising they’ve become to dependent and will transition away.

Wont hurt them short term but what if in like 15 years the western world gets more self sufficient and for the stuff they do import do it across many more countries. They’d be fucked then. Over played their cards
 

kf3

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Playing the long game here do we reckon China has made the right move?

They’ve definitely got a lot of the world by the nuts now but like Touché said, leaders are realising they’ve become to dependent and will transition away.

Wont hurt them short term but what if in like 15 years the western world gets more self sufficient and for the stuff they do import do it across many more countries. They’d be fucked then. Over played their cards
they seem to be pissing off basically every nation they border and the entire western world.

superpower or not that aint a great long term startegy.
 
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Misleading headline from DM and OP, the tarrif is for barley, not all trade.
Yes but I believe that farmers in Australia are going through a drought and they will have to depend on these sales to make some money. Unless I'm mistaken.
 

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The Chinese have encroached so deep in our societies and our economies have become so intertwined with theirs that I'm afraid we will not be able to withdraw from our dependent on China.
Look at the number of Western companies that were purchased by China the last 20 years.
They've began to entrode in Holywood. Very soon they'll use this medium to infiltrate our culture and begin to shape our thoughts and political opinions.
The hold 1/4 of dept.
In fact it could be argued the last 40 years was the largest transfer of human capital in history between Western corporations and China. Human capital that would have taken Chine a century to achieve had it not been for greedy Western industries.
Confronting China will take a coalition of countries. unfortunately China has established deep economic partnership with so many countries, especially in the 3rd world that I'm afraid these countries will not be willing to risk their economic stability to participate in any such confrontation.

Mostly true.

Except for the debt bit...it's closer to 5 %.


The 'centre of gravity' is definitely moving Eastward.

Geopolitics will look very different when our kids are in their seventies.
 
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Look at the number of Western companies that were purchased by China the last 20 years.

They've began to entrode in Holywood. Very soon they'll use this medium to infiltrate our culture and begin to shape our thoughts and political opinions.


In fact it could be argued the last 40 years was the largest transfer of human capital in history between Western corporations and China. Human capital that would have taken Chine a century to achieve had it not been for greedy Western industries.
Yup. I know he's not everyone's favourite guy but at least Trump tried to tackle China earlier on.
 
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Look at the number of Western companies that were purchased by China the last 20 years.

They've began to entrode in Holywood. Very soon they'll use this medium to infiltrate our culture and begin to shape our thoughts and political opinions.


In fact it could be argued the last 40 years was the largest transfer of human capital in history between Western corporations and China. Human capital that would have taken Chine a century to achieve had it not been for greedy Western industries.
And like I said many many times before...their sucking up of western companies via their SWF's is going to ensure we end up working for their pension funds and public services.
 
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Mostly true.

Except for the debt bit...it's closer to 5 %.


The 'centre of gravity' is definitely moving Eastward.

Geopolitics will look very different when our kids are in their seventies.
Liberalism has no place when it comes to looking after your country's interests. I have said that since Day 1. Petty moralistic agendas and greedy sellout politicians multiplied by rampant capitalism outsourcing labour to the cheapest international bidder for ever increasing dividends and managerial salaries at the cost of national welfare is a poison that brings down empires.

We look at Millennials and talk about how tough they have it, no homes for life, jobs, pensions etc etc.

Nobody has even given a single thought to Millennial's children & grandchildren....what are they gonna hand down? Dust? I wouldn't be surprised if our government made it law they had to pass down debt on their death next too....They're literally going to be living like poor SE Asians very soon.......
 

kf3

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trump is clearly using china as a grandstanding tool.

but it would be far less effective if any politicians from the past 20 years were worth a shit, if the media had done any real journalism and if the corporations who tell those 2 groups what to do cared about anything past short term profits.