Compubox stats for Klitschko vs Fury & Joshua

Aug 15, 2013
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I only saw these today for the first time.

What was shocking was:

- Klitschko landed vastly more punches vs AJ than Fury despite not going the distance, pretty much 2 x the amount.

- WKs accuracy was much better vs Joshua than Fury, massively so.

- Joshua averaged just 5 successful punches per round in rounds 6,7,8,9 & 10.

All credit for Joshua for overcoming this to win spectacularly in rd 11, but comparing the two fights (given Wlad was much older):

Do you think it's just styles & ability make fights or Wladimir was more focussed than ever?
 
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Aug 15, 2013
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Clearly both. How much of which is the root of the debate.
Exactly.

Klitschko was by consensus on here an apparently 'shot' fighter.

But he doubles his output and accuracy and limits his opponent to 4 or 5 punches a round for half the fight.

I don't where I stand ... was Wladimir better than ever or the opponent not as good as expected or the style was more suited to WK?
 
Jun 13, 2012
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I don't know, but I can clearly see your angle behind this thread.

Trying to use a bit of theory to prove your blatant conviction in all things Tyson Fury, whilst simultaneously having a dig at Joshua. Sneaky but clever!
 
Aug 15, 2013
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I don't know, but I can clearly see your angle behind this thread.

Trying to use a bit of theory to prove your blatant conviction in all things Tyson Fury, whilst simultaneously having a dig at Joshua. Sneaky but clever!
Just the facts Mam
 
Sep 1, 2016
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Hard to read much in the Fury fight due to how appalling it was with both fighters refusing to throw punches.
 

Jack

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Jul 29, 2012
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Wlad/Fury was a woeful fight, probably the worst legitimate title fight in history and far too much is being looked into it. It was a thoroughly dull stalemate and I genuinely think that Wlad fought most of it under the assumption he was winning rounds and would get the decision, so he was happy to have a nonentity of a bout.

If there was a rematch, trilogy or they fought 100 times, only 1 bout would look like that. It was an anomally stylistically and wouldn't be reproduced. It was a pathetic, embarrassing spectacle that only hurt the sport because of the attitude both men showed on the night, especially Klitschko's. The lack of willingness to take risks was shameful for the sport, never mind the titles they were 'fighting' over.

Fury fans will obsess over these two fights but the reality is, if Fury ever mans up and enters the ring against Joshua, he gets annihilated. He would get brutally knocked out.
 
Aug 28, 2014
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Joshua isntt the hardest to hit at ll, also he took so many rounds off to get his energy back for the 11th so all the rounds with low output actually helped him in the long run
 

tompreston

Proud WoolyBack
Apr 9, 2016
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@Boxfan has made a good point about this being the Wlad Fury would have faced.

Complacency is another factor that could well be overlooked as well as the various stylistic reasons why Fury did what he did.

His wife being ill as well. Suppose the questions are what makes boxing so fun.

Tysons win is 'better'. But AJs is just as impressive for lots of reasons (less experienced, jump in levels, the KO, the overcoming adversity in the fight).
 
May 11, 2016
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Seems the majority of people that are surprised Wlad had a good performance are the ones that thought Joshua would just walk through him, almost exclusively based on the Fury performance.

Now it's hurting their heads why Fury v Wlad turned out the way it did. Every excuse under the sun is being rolled out for Wlad. Confirmation bias in full flow, the fat bum that was supposed to be KO'd couldn't possibly be a very good boxer who completely nullified Wlad, no way. Just had to be something wrong in the Klit camp.
 

A Force

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Jul 21, 2013
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Wlad/Fury was a woeful fight, probably the worst legitimate title fight in history and far too much is being looked into it. It was a thoroughly dull stalemate and I genuinely think that Wlad fought most of it under the assumption he was winning rounds and would get the decision, so he was happy to have a nonentity of a bout.

If there was a rematch, trilogy or they fought 100 times, only 1 bout would look like that. It was an anomally stylistically and wouldn't be reproduced. It was a pathetic, embarrassing spectacle that only hurt the sport because of the attitude both men showed on the night, especially Klitschko's. The lack of willingness to take risks was shameful for the sport, never mind the titles they were 'fighting' over.

Fury fans will obsess over these two fights but the reality is, if Fury ever mans up and enters the ring against Joshua, he gets annihilated. He would get brutally knocked out.
You serious? Wlad knew he was losing he couldn't do anything about it. I've no idea where you get the 'I genuinely think that Wlad fought most of it under the assumption he was winning rounds and would get the decision, so he was happy to have a nonentity of a bout' from as Wlad was desperately trying to get a KO in the 12th to save himself.

It wasn't anything other than a style issue. He's not fought a taller fighter than him other than Wach who's just a big punching bag during his reign & didn't know what to do when Fury used his feet & could stay out of range.

They can fight another 100 times & Wlad isn't going to become a good inside fighter or a much more aggressive one. He needs to be able to land his jab to work off it & he can't do that against Fury
 
Jun 14, 2012
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It was a brilliant win for Fury and I think his performance did effect Wlads output. The fact remains though that it was one of the worst legitimate world title fights in history.
 

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I only saw these today for the first time.

What was shocking was:

- Klitschko landed vastly more punches vs AJ than Fury despite not going the distance, pretty much 2 x the amount.

- WKs accuracy was much better vs Joshua than Fury, massively so.

- Joshua averaged just 5 successful punches per round in rounds 6,7,8,9 & 10.

All credit for Joshua for overcoming this to win spectacularly in rd 11, but comparing the two fights (given Wlad was much older):

Do you think it's just styles & ability make fights or Wladimir was more focussed than ever?
You were 'shocked' by this?

Why?

We all know the difference in the fights.
 
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I don't know, but I can clearly see your angle behind this thread.

Trying to use a bit of theory to prove your blatant conviction in all things Tyson Fury, whilst simultaneously having a dig at Joshua. Sneaky but clever!
He is obsessed with it.

As soon as I saw the thread maker I knew the direction this thread was going.

He was 'shocked' wlad landed more v joshua than fury apparently.
 
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Exactly.

Klitschko was by consensus on here an apparently 'shot' fighter.

But he doubles his output and accuracy and limits his opponent to 4 or 5 punches a round for half the fight.

I don't where I stand ... was Wladimir better than ever or the opponent not as good as expected or the style was more suited to WK?
Come on man,are you on the wind up here or what?
 

dyna

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Jun 4, 2013
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Joshua is static and stands in front of you, so Wlad shines as he can land his power shots.

Fury constantly moves and feints coupled with a very long jab so Wlad could never get his offense off.
 
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