Coronavirus Outbreak [COVID-19]

Jack

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Jul 29, 2012
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I've no problem with Wales going back into lockdown, but this is ludicrous. Mark Drakeford is a sociopath.

That shit is disgraceful, it should make people angry. Not allowing people to buy a birthday card for their kids or whatever...just fuck off. These socialist governments trying to outdo each other with their oppressive, Orwellian nonsense is nauseating to watch. My stance on this has never been about personal freedom or anything, it's not a point I ever thought was relevant but now? There's just no limit with these people, they're dead set on making everyone know who is boss. Pathetic.
 

Jack

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My missus has just been tested. Our daughter was I'll Sunday night and then fine yesterday. Missus started feeling a bit ill last night but says she feels like utter shite today, so work instructed her to have one. I don't think it's covid as she's got a snotty nose and no temperature. But I'll keep you posted.
Hopefully it's nothing serious :good
 
Jun 6, 2013
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What shit?


Well, I know I can do xmas more safely than going to the shops, and I know I can do it at very little risk to the small section of my family I would see, or the wider world.


I also don't think I've been overly authoritarian? I supported the lockdown, I support ongoing smaller lockdowns where required, I support social distancing, and I support the attempts for medical solutions.

I think pretending it doesn't exist is stupid. Or minimising the threat. Or not distancing. Or just telling people to get on with it and fuck the old, the sick, and the just plain unlucky.

I don't think we should all hide indoors though. I've been on holiday, to the pub, out to dinner, and to the cinema. I exercise every day.

I've held parties and barbecues, while following the rules, (and my own tighter rules), in place at the time. I'd love to go to sport, or a gig, or the theatre, but I know we can't.


But, it is hypocritical, because if I'm doing it, then others will, and if everyone does it then there is a risk. Just because of the numbers involved, and because 99% of people can't, or won't, do it as safely as I can.


If my small, socially distanced, family Xmas is against the rules at the time. Then I will break the rules, but I will isolate before and after, socially distance throughout, and accept any resulting police action in good grace.

This is unlikely though, it will be at a big house in the middle of nowhere, and very well behaved, so I can't see us being shopped to the police.
This really is the whole point of my argument you can’t live without risk, after months of following these ridiculous rules somewhere you finally have to say I’m going to go out and enjoy myself have a drink of a meal with others socialise life is not worth living cooped up in your house seeing nobody all because I could get a virus that could kill me which can happen anytime anyway. I agree you can do it safely and use common sense most people can.

The government have been treating people like they are in prison calling this lockdown and now the new one fire breaker like there is a fire all psychological. Things need to go back to normal isolate the vulnerable prepare the NHS although I don’t know why they aren’t prepared they have had months and let the healthy people live.
 
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This really is the whole point of my argument you can’t live without risk, after months of following these ridiculous rules somewhere you finally have to say I’m going to go out and enjoy myself have a drink of a meal with others socialise life is not worth living cooped up in your house seeing nobody all because I could get a virus that could kill me which can happen anytime anyway. I agree you can do it safely and use common sense most people can.

The government have been treating people like they are in prison calling this lockdown and now the new one fire breaker like there is a fire all psychological. Things need to go back to normal isolate the vulnerable prepare the NHS although I don’t know why they aren’t prepared they have had months and let the healthy people live.
Nobody is stopping you from partying like there is no tomorrow with everybody you know. It just might cost you your entire savings if you get caught breaking the rules though. Your call. If you think it is worth the risk, wipe yourself out.
 
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The deaths curve now following the infections count curve north. Hardly a surprise.

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Just people about to die anyway according to some here.
 
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This really is the whole point of my argument you can’t live without risk, after months of following these ridiculous rules somewhere you finally have to say I’m going to go out and enjoy myself have a drink of a meal with others socialise life is not worth living cooped up in your house seeing nobody all because I could get a virus that could kill me which can happen anytime anyway. I agree you can do it safely and use common sense most people can.

The government have been treating people like they are in prison calling this lockdown and now the new one fire breaker like there is a fire all psychological. Things need to go back to normal isolate the vulnerable prepare the NHS although I don’t know why they aren’t prepared they have had months and let the healthy people live.
We were allowed to go out though, but the numbers went back up, so they have restricted things where necessary. Which make sense.


If we all do our bit the numbers will go down again and the restrictions will ease. Which also makes sense.

I think we just need to put up with this till our medical responses improve further.

If everyone would just behave sensibly in the first place then there would be less spread and less need for restrictions. All the idiots that don't care about the risk, or who can't keep their distance after a few pints are partly responsible for the new measures in place.



I'm talking about potentially breaking the rules as a one off. For Xmas. That is wrong, and illegal. I accept that.

I know we can do it very safely, so I have justified it to myself, but I accept that's probably what a lot of other rule breakers do.

It doesn't mean we will have a normal Xmas though. I have a large family, and I usually meet all of them over the period, I go to a few nights out with friends, and I go to Xmas markets, movies, and concerts.

That's not going to be possible this year.

The markets are cancelled. I've resigned myself to not meeting my mates. I've resigned myself to not seeing my extended family. I've resigned myself that I might not see all my close family, and those I do see will be spread out over a long period, and probably under weird circumstances.

My folks are divorced and remarried. I've got 3 brothers. I've got nieces and nephews. I've got one set of grandparents left. The Mrs has a similar set up.

We are not going to be able to meet everyone in person. It's just not safe.

We are all already making plans about who will meet who, and spacing the dates out and making sure we isolate in between. (those of us that can).

I'm moving house now, but as soon as that is done I'm buying all my Xmas presents, what food I can, and decorations. That way I won't need to leave the house during the build up, that way I can be sure I don't have it before I meet anyone.
 
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Broxi

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We were allowed to go out though, but the numbers went back up, so they have restricted things where necessary. Which make sense.


If we all do our bit the numbers will go down again and the restrictions will ease. Which also makes sense.

I think we just need to put up with this till our medical responses improve further.

If everyone would just behave sensibly in the first place then there would be less spread and less need for restrictions. All the idiots that don't care about the risk, or who can't keep their distance after a few pints are partly responsible for the new measures in place.



I'm talking about potentially breaking the rules as a one off. For Xmas. That is wrong, and illegal. I accept that.

I know we can do it very safely, so I have justified it to myself, but I accept that's probably what a lot of other rule breakers do.

It doesn't mean we will have a normal Xmas though. I have a large family, and I usually meet all of them over the period, I go to a few nights out with friends, and I go to Xmas markets, movies, and concerts.

That's not going to be possible this year.

The markets are cancelled. I've resigned myself to not meeting my mates. I've resigned myself to not seeing my extended family. I've resigned myself that I might not see all my close family, and those I do see will be spread out over a long period, and probably under weird circumstances.

My folks are divorced and remarried. I've got 3 brothers. I've got nieces and nephews. I've got one set of grandparents left. The Mrs has a similar set up.

We are not going to be able to meet everyone in person. It's just not safe.

We are all already making plans about who will meet who, and spacing the dates out and making sure we isolate in between. (those of us that can).

I'm moving house now, but as soon as that is done I'm buying all my Xmas presents, what food I can, and decorations. That way I won't need to leave the house during the build up, that way I can be sure I don't have it before I meet anyone.
Like every normal sensible person basically.
 
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Getting tested next week. I got picked for random testing. My college has been doing something quite amazing, honestly. I think there are a handful of universities that have been a success story. Well, all I know is my university is pretty damn wealthy. Since I'm a leader, last I talked to the dean, he said we're spending a lot of money on testing so even though we've had an influx of students, we're still breaking even after all those COVID-19 precaution spending. Anyways, still hanging in there, but I hope that the department let's me go free to be on an RA next semester so I don't have to teach.
 
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DB Cooper

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7 new COVID case today for Victoria.

No deaths.

Recent daily numbers 5, 10, 13, 15, 7, 15, 12, 9, 15, 6, 11, 11, 14, 12, 15, 12, 7, 6, 2, 1, 2, 4, 1, 3, 5, 1, 7 and now 7.

6 of today's 7 new cases are bracketed together - single family I believe.

There were drones out last night looking for breaches because our national football league (AFL) grand final was on and I'm sure there would have been some who thought it a good idea to invite all there mates around for a piss up.
 
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Check this thread out. Pretty interesting read about the tradeoffs between school closures and funding. Difficult situation here since it's pretty fucking obvious how difficult it would be to keep a little kid focused for more than an hour remotely, especially with all the distractions of home.

 

steviebruno

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Check this thread out. Pretty interesting read about the tradeoffs between school closures and funding. Difficult situation here since it's pretty fucking obvious how difficult it would be to keep a little kid focused for more than an hour remotely, especially with all the distractions of home.

Damn... too bad their president screwed up so badly with his handling of COVID, and now they're stuck at home, failing classes, graduating late, and getting into worse colleges. I hope that they all remember this when they're old enough to vote.
 
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Damn... too bad their president screwed up so badly with his handling of COVID, and now they're stuck at home, failing classes, graduating late, and getting into worse colleges. I hope that they all remember this when they're old enough to vote.
#StillYourPresident, stevie.

By the way, a president was telling schools to reopen. I wonder why that is... maybe because people need to go back to work and kids need to learn. Economy can't crumble to protect at risk population. We should have freedom of choice. Just stay home, stevie. No more lockdowns or restrictions. I hope Trump gets rid of all that garbage his next term.
 

DB Cooper

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Vitali Klitschko has tested positive for COVID.

"I received a positive test result but I feel good. I will go into isolation and work from home” - Vitali Klitschko.
 
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