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Haggis

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Do you actually have a point to make Haggis because for all the world I'm not getting it?
Your missus' cousin is a retard, and for all the complaints we hear about the media, it's not CNN or the BBC turning people's heads into mush like that, is it.

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Broxi

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Your missus' cousin is a retard, and for all the complaints we hear about the media, it's not CNN or the BBC turning people's heads into mush like that, is it.

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Because problem A exists that must mean problem B doesn't, is that it?

Sorry I'm not as autistic as you and only perceive one problem at a time.
 

Broxi

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You are so out of touc with reality :lol:
He's an actually fucking idiot.

People like David Ike spread conspiracy theories, this is a problem.

CNN, Fox and MSNBC instead of acting like partisan distributors of news and information, act like political shills for certain parties or political narratives and this isn't a problem because David Ike is spreading misinformation.

In a world of David Ikes on the internet, does it not stand to reason that the impartiality and truthfulness of our mainstream news media becomes of even more importance?

Because if people begin to not trust those sources, where do they go?
 

SwollenGoat

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Trump’s Indifference Amounts to Negligent Homicide




I 100% agree

trumps too lazy,too stupid and too butthurt to govern and DO something about a pandemic thats raging UNFUCKINGCHECKED across the nation and TENS OF THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS ARE DEAD AND WILL DIE BECAUSE OF IT

the fact that we are allowing him to BLOCK effective measures, on top of simply doing nothing himself,is fucking amazing

he should be arrested and confined for the safety of the nation



260k dead americans

200k new cases YESTERDFAY

2k new dead

and thanksgiving is this week..................

IMAGINE what this shit is going to look like by christmas

Trump has UTTERLY FAILED THE NATION

we cant afford to wait on him to leave before we do something.................
 
May 25, 2013
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He's an actually fucking idiot.

People like David Ike spread conspiracy theories, this is a problem.

CNN, Fox and MSNBC instead of acting like partisan distributors of news and information, act like political shills for certain parties or political narratives and this isn't a problem because David Ike is spreading misinformation.

In a world of David Ikes on the internet, does it not stand to reason that the impartiality and truthfulness of our mainstream news media becomes of even more importance?

Because if people begin to not trust those sources, where do they go?
I don't disagree with what your saying but there is a subtle difference. I think most people in general look at MSM and know their is often a political bias associated with the media outlet, your average person reading The Guardian knows it's getting a story with a left wing slant, just like the average reader of the Daily Mail will get a right wing spin on things. The mainstream media doesn't try and hide it's agenda or political bias it's very apparent hence why Fox news dropped it's fair and balanced motto and people pick and choose their media source often based upon their own personal beliefs and own personal bias only an idiot picks up the Daily Mail and thinks it's impartial. Also the mainstream media rarely outright lies, it may spin a story taking a certain side but it doesn't outright lie very often.

David Icke in contrast outright lies constantly, makes up facts with no actual grounding in reality as do many other conspiracy theorists, it's not spin, it's not one point of view on a certain topic told in a certain way it's out right lies, for example his 5G conspiracy or him claiming to be the Messiah, it's the ravings of an utter lunatic.

As a whole I think the mainstream media is truthful just not impartial and as long as they are honest about their impartiality I think that's the best we can really hope for in a world where the media is controlled by a select few.

As for where people go, well I personally try to get my news from a number of different sources, I'm not one to just disregard the Daily Mail because it's right wing or The Guardian because it's left wing so I get a more balanced view and get to see both sides rather than just reading what fits my political stance and of course fact check articles if I am skeptical of certain claims. We have in this age more information and resources at our finger tips than any generation before us, so it shouldn't be too hard to filter through the bias and agendas to find something resembling the truth.
 
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Nurses now striking in Pennsylvania due to poor working conditions and lack of PPE. I guess it was inevitable these front line health workers are being put through the mill right now, working insane hours, being told to work even if they have Covid, dealing with losing horrendous numbers of patients with no time or respite to mentally deal with that and so many now have PTSD.

Once this is all over I think there's going to be a huge problem within the health services all over the world where Covid was bad with large numbers suffering from mental illness, stress etc. Much like how after wars we saw many returning veterans unable to cope due to the trauma caused by their time on the front, we'll see similar cases with nurses, doctors etc.
 
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meanwhile................ 'murica



Scary thing some people might think this is true, I mean how many people have drunk bleach because someone posted it might work to cure Covid, I've lost count how many times I've read that story. The article below says maybe 800 people have died from drinking some kind of cleaning agent and that was back in August.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-53755067
 

steviebruno

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Jun 5, 2013
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Nurses now striking in Pennsylvania due to poor working conditions and lack of PPE. I guess it was inevitable these front line health workers are being put through the mill right now, working insane hours, being told to work even if they have Covid, dealing with losing horrendous numbers of patients with no time or respite to mentally deal with that and so many now have PTSD.

Once this is all over I think there's going to be a huge problem within the health services all over the world where Covid was bad with large numbers suffering from mental illness, stress etc. Much like how after wars we saw many returning veterans unable to cope due to the trauma caused by their time on the front, we'll see similar cases with nurses, doctors etc.
Good for them. Your right to be an asshole shouldn't affect the rights of others who have to deal with the consequences of your actions.
 

Broxi

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I don't disagree with what your saying but there is a subtle difference. I think most people in general look at MSM and know their is often a political bias associated with the media outlet, your average person reading The Guardian knows it's getting a story with a left wing slant, just like the average reader of the Daily Mail will get a right wing spin on things. The mainstream media doesn't try and hide it's agenda or political bias it's very apparent hence why Fox news dropped it's fair and balanced motto and people pick and choose their media source often based upon their own personal beliefs and own personal bias only an idiot picks up the Daily Mail and thinks it's impartial. Also the mainstream media rarely outright lies, it may spin a story taking a certain side but it doesn't outright lie very often.

David Icke in contrast outright lies constantly, makes up facts with no actual grounding in reality as do many other conspiracy theorists, it's not spin, it's not one point of view on a certain topic told in a certain way it's out right lies, for example his 5G conspiracy or him claiming to be the Messiah, it's the ravings of an utter lunatic.

As a whole I think the mainstream media is truthful just not impartial and as long as they are honest about their impartiality I think that's the best we can really hope for in a world where the media is controlled by a select few.

As for where people go, well I personally try to get my news from a number of different sources, I'm not one to just disregard the Daily Mail because it's right wing or The Guardian because it's left wing so I get a more balanced view and get to see both sides rather than just reading what fits my political stance and of course fact check articles if I am skeptical of certain claims. We have in this age more information and resources at our finger tips than any generation before us, so it shouldn't be too hard to filter through the bias and agendas to find something resembling the truth.
Yeah, I agree with you other than I would say it ranges between a right/left "slant" and outright propaganda.

But all of this is beside the point, you see no one ever made the argument that people either choose David Ike or The Guardian, to me they are completely separate unrelated subjects.

It's Haggis who is drawing some bizarre comparison between the two like I've somewhere made an argument that one is the alternative to the other. Which is a thing I cant wrap my head around.

The Guardian and The Daily Mail are shills for their politics - Correct

David Ike, Alex Jones and Co are loon ball conspiracy nuts - Correct.

Donald Trumps Covid response is a disaster - Correct.

All of these things are correct but any one of them being correct doesn't render any of the others incorrect.

Do you get what I'm saying?
 
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Yeah, I agree with you other than I would say it ranges between a right/left "slant" and outright propaganda.

But all of this is beside the point, you see no one ever made the argument that people either choose David Ike or The Guardian, to me they are completely separate unrelated subjects.

It's Haggis who is drawing some bizarre comparison between the two like I've somewhere made an argument that one is the alternative to the other. Which is a thing I cant wrap my head around.

The Guardian and The Daily Mail are shills for their politics - Correct

David Ike, Alex Jones and Co are loon ball conspiracy nuts - Correct.

Donald Trumps Covid response is a disaster - Correct.

All of these things are correct but any one of them being correct doesn't render any of the others incorrect.

Do you get what I'm saying?
Yeah I get what you're saying. I don't think you guys are really that far off from your view points it just seems Haggis is trying to stir shit up for the sake of stirring shit up at least that's what it looks like to me.
 

Broxi

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Yeah I get what you're saying. I don't think you guys are really that far off from your view points it just seems Haggis is trying to stir shit up for the sake of stirring shit up at least that's what it looks like to me.
Yeah I don't think you're far wrong there, it's par for the course to be honest. Silly strawman arguments and seeking attention, he's an odd one.
 

DB Cooper

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May 17, 2013
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23 straight days now for Victoria of ZERO new infections and ZERO deaths.

Mask and many other restrictions are being eased as of middnight tonight.

Anyone who thinks it wasn't worth paying the price to remove COVID does not appreciate what it feels like to walk out the door knowing there is no COVID out there and nobody out there is going to die from COVID today. Life's good! Make that great!
 
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23 straight days now for Victoria of ZERO new infections and ZERO deaths.

Mask and many other restrictions are being eased as of middnight tonight.

Anyone who thinks it wasn't worth paying the price to remove COVID does not appreciate what it feels like to walk out the door knowing there is no COVID out there and nobody out there is going to die from COVID today. Life's good! Make that great!
It's crazy to think we (VIC) were almost reaching 800 cases per day at one point
 
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DB Cooper

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It's crazy to think we (VIC) were almost reaching 800 cases per day at one point
Yep, and if we had done nothing in response we would no doubt be in deep shit by now. But we went into lockdown and much to the apparent disappointment of some, it proved successful.
 
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So UK are planning to end 2nd lockdown and go back to a revised tier system like before. We went into lockdown with a 7 day average of 22,551 cases on the 5th of Nov and currently we have a 7 day average of 21,290 cases. So this dumb totally useless 2nd lockdown which was never restrictive enough due to schools and universities still being open has seen us drop 1,261 cases on a 7 day average, that's a decrease of 5%.

I said before the first lockdown which was more restrictive took 4 weeks to just see cases level off and again we've seen 4 weeks simply not being long enough to make a real difference especially as we have a less effective 2nd lockdown and we have simply far more cases in the community than during the first wave. This government are utterly incompetent, what is even the point in having a lockdown if you don't impose it in time, don't do it for long enough and it's simply going to exempt some of the most virulent vectors for transmission.

With no doubt by the time Christmas rolls around we'll have even more cases than we have now, this is a fucking disaster, they will have spent 4 weeks crushing the economy for no reason and accomplished nothing because of their complete incompetence, if this is how lockdowns will be from now on in the UK we might as well forget the idea of lockdowns completely. Fuck just when you think Boris can't be even more of an incompetent buffoon he comes along and shows us there is no limit to his sheer ineptitude and incapacity to lead.