Covid-19 Lounge Thread - No Politics, No Conspiracy Chat, No BS.

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The intention of this thread was to act as a repository for news about vaccine development, rollout, mutations and spread of the virus, stats or in general other news or information about the pandemic which would be interesting or useful for people who have a vanilla opinion of the thing... which is that this is a global pandemic of natural origins which we're all in a fight against. Or even for personal anecdotes and stuff.

It shouldn't be expected to be as busy as the other thread which will have debates which go on for pages but there's a thread there for arguing about politics or whether Bill Gates is behind it all.

I agree with @DynamicMoves that most of the posts in the past couple of pages should be moved even if it's a nigh on impossible task to keep in top of.
Totally agree
 
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You're literally the only person to mention right v left, it doesn't even make sense as an interjection here.

The vaccine roll out is political topic, don't post it if discussion around it isn't allowed.

Even after being told to stop, Jack is already posting about unions and the Labour party...in the non political covid 19 thread.
Anything can be political if you make it.

Vaccine being rolled out is just discussing the vaccine being rolled out.

In this thread we don't care about right vs left.

We're just discussing covid and it's impact on the world.

There's a separate thread to get political if you have the desire.
 

TFG

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Anything can be political if you make it.

Vaccine being rolled out is just discussing the vaccine being rolled out.

In this thread we don't care about right vs left.

We're just discussing covid and it's impact on the world.

There's a separate thread to get political if you have the desire.
Again, you're the only person talking about right vs left, stop making up shite.

You're droning on now anyway, the only person to carry on the political discussions has been @Jack

I said quite clearly I'd respond to Ernest in the other thread.
 
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Again, you're the only person talking about right vs left, stop making up shite.

You're droning on now anyway, the only person to carry on the political discussions has been @Jack

I said quite clearly I'd respond to Ernest in the other thread.
Thank you for complying. Its much appreciated mate.
 

Jack

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The posts I made about unions/Labour were just to offer context to the point as the person I replied to is American but it wasn't meant to trigger any political debate or anything, it was just a point about how the vaccine should be rolled out and where priority should be. Apologies if it wasn't clear though, I think it's a valid point so I'll avoid that in future.

Anyway:

"The vaccine developed by the University of Oxford and AstraZeneca not only protects people from serious illness and death but also substantially slows the transmission of the virus, according to a new study — a finding that underscores the importance of mass vaccination as a path out of the pandemic.

The study by researchers at the University of Oxford is the first to document evidence that any coronavirus vaccine can reduce transmission of the virus.

Researchers measured the impact on transmission by swabbing participants every week seeking to detect signs of the virus. If there is no virus present, even if someone is infected, it cannot be spread. And they found a 67 percent reduction in positive swabs among those vaccinated.

The results, detailed by Oxford and AstraZeneca researchers in a manuscript that has not been peer-reviewed, found that the vaccine could cut transmission by nearly two-thirds.

Apparently Oxford are already developing another variation of the vaccine to be used in case of other strains that are more problematic. That should be developed by Autumn, so the fact that the current vaccine reduces transmission and prevents serious illness is great news. Hopefully this can start to be shipped around the world and third world nations can begin their mass vaccination programs too.
 
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Recent study on male fertility found sperm concentration was reduced by 516 per cent, mobility by 209 per cent and sperm cell shape was altered by 400 per cent.

bio weapon ^^^^^
If you aren't going to post such a study, and from a source not associated with other conspiracy theories, then it belongs in the other thread.
 

Clarence Worley

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If you aren't going to post such a study, and from a source not associated with other conspiracy theories, then it belongs in the other thread.
Probably does yeah but this thread has obviously gone off the rails

 
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If you aren't going to post such a study, and from a source not associated with other conspiracy theories, then it belongs in the other thread.
This is the source:

I need to raise a strong note of caution in their interpretation of this data. For example, the authors state that their data demonstrates that 'COVID-19 infection causes significant impairments of male reproductive function' yet it only actually shows an association," said Allan Pacey, a professor of andrology at The University of Sheffield in South Yorkshire, United Kingdom, via email.

"Being ill from any virus such as flu can temporarily drop your sperm count (sometimes to zero) for a few weeks or months. This makes it difficult to work out how much of the reductions observed in this study were specific to COVID-19 rather than just from being ill," said Dr. Channa Jayasena, a consultant in reproductive endocrinology and andrology at Imperial College London, in an email.

In addition, "it is important to note that there is no evidence of Covid-19 virus in the semen and that there is no evidence that virus can be transmitted via semen," said Alison Murdoch, who heads Newcastle Fertility Centre at the International Centre for Life, Newcastle University in the UK, via email.


The study age-matched 105 fertile men without Covid-19 to 84 fertile men diagnosed with the coronavirus and analyzed their semen at 10-day intervals for 60 days.

Compared to healthy men without Covid-19, the study found a significant increase in inflammation and oxidative stress in sperm cells belonging to men with Covid-19. Their sperm concentration, mobility and shape were also negatively impacted by the virus.

The differences grew with the severity of the sickness, the study found.

"These effects on sperm cells are associated with lower sperm quality and reduced fertility potential. Although these effects tended to improve over time, they remained significantly and abnormally higher in the COVID-19 patients, and the magnitude of these changes were also related to disease severity," said lead researcher Behzad Hajizadeh Maleki, a doctoral student at Justus Liebig University Giessen, in Hesse, Germany, in a statement.

There were also much higher levels of ACE2 enzymatic activity in men with Covid, the study found. ACE2, or angiotensin-converting enzyme 2, is the protein that provides the entry point for the novel coronavirus to hook into and infect a wide range of human cells

However, it's not surprising that Covid-19 might impact the male reproductive system because ACE2 receptors, or the "same receptors which the virus uses to gain access to the tissues of the lung, are also found in the testicles," said Pacey, who is also editor in chief of the journal Human Fertility.
 
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Not every death has to be attributed to this virus, the man was 100 years old. RIP
From what I've read he had pneumonia, but then contracted covid which ultimately killed him.

I don't want his death to be used in terms of any scare mongering or any thing.

The man lived and died a hero, nothing else matters.
 
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From what I've read he had pneumonia, but then contracted covid which ultimately killed him.

I don't want his death to be used in terms of any scare mongering or any thing.

The man lived and died a hero, nothing else matters.
I agree, he did a great thing raising that money and lived to a a great age not many make 100 I don’t think i will.
 
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You have to wonder if we (Britain) had a healthier population, we wouldn't be in this mess. The government have much to be blamed for, but living a healthy lifestyle isn't one of them. I am sure everybody knows someone who lives an unhealthy lifestyle, whether it be they are overweight, diabetic etc. I've seen a lot of people compare us to Vietnam and that is kind of fair for a population of Vietnam's size, but I imagine Vietnamese diets and lifestyles are far better than us here in Western Europe. I can't say this with certainty, but surely unhealthy lifestyle makes a big difference, no? I heard recently that we have the most obesity in Europe. Sickening.