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Serious Q:

Does this generally not happen at MR shows? Is it quality of security employed by the promoters - or the type of fan base each boxer has?

Or - does it pretty much happen at all shows, to a greater or lesser extent, when you get pissed up - coked up lads (casuals) watching fights?
 
May 8, 2016
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It seems to have become the norm now, with bother at the last two Copper Box events and the last two WBSS nights.

Apparently there were stabbings at a show in Walsall last night with one lad fighting for his life.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/three-stabbed-vicious-boxing-riot-11345294
So what are the reasons, for this?

(1) What scientists term "Mob Psychology" were regular people get hyped with the buzz of being part of a large group and act violently?

(2) Criminals turning up to fights to support fighters they have connection to and engaging in clashes with rival fans.?

(3) Individuals thinking they have to act hard because they follow boxing...You even find that in the forums Fat-Middle class kids spewing loads of profanity and expletives because its Boxing and they think it makes them look hard. Somehow its glamourous.?

(4) Alchohol being freely available, at these events along with drugs?
 
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So what are the reasons, for this?

(1) What scientists term "Mob Psychology" were regular people get hyped with the buzz of being part of a large group and act violently?

(2) Criminals turning up to fights to support fighters they have connection to and engaging in clashes with rival fans.?

(3) Individuals thinking they have to act hard because they follow boxing...You even find that in the forums Fat-Middle class kids spewing loads of profanity and expletives because its Boxing and they think it makes them look hard. Somehow its glamourous.?

(4) Alchohol being freely available, at these events along with drugs?
To address your last point. I haven't been to a show for years,mainly because of exactly this. But I think its time now to stop selling alcohol at shows. This may NOT be the answer as a lot of them get drunk before they go in,and would probably sneak their own in. But it MIGHT just deter some.
 

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Serious Q:

Does this generally not happen at MR shows? Is it quality of security employed by the promoters - or the type of fan base each boxer has?

Or - does it pretty much happen at all shows, to a greater or lesser extent, when you get pissed up - coked up lads (casuals) watching fights?
You get it at all big shows to an extent, but to be fair to matchroom, their security is usually pretty visible. Last week in Stuttgart the lack of security was an absolute disgrace, but the Turkish gangs were basically fighting amongst themselves.
 

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Heard rumours 2 dead and one in a bad way at the Walsall show. Saw a video of the trouble inside it was crazy.
That is fucking awful news man.

I know a lad who fights up there today and it's such a busy area for boxing currently,this kind of thing is so damaging for the sport and mindless violence at a small hall puts good people off attending.

I assume this was rival supporters involved,was this the Luke paddock show?
 
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To address your last point. I haven't been to a show for years,mainly because of exactly this. But I think its time now to stop selling alcohol at shows. This may NOT be the answer as a lot of them get drunk before they go in,and would probably sneak their own in. But it MIGHT just deter some.
The BBB of C had a long time rule which WAS enforced of no alchohol taken to seats at boxing. This changed about 3/4 years ago from memory.
 
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That is fucking awful news man.

I know a lad who fights up there today and it's such a busy area for boxing currently,this kind of thing is so damaging for the sport and mindless violence at a small hall puts good people off attending.

I assume this was rival supporters involved,was this the Luke paddock show?

Yeah it was the paddock show. And the show today has been canceled. Sud have been start of a super 8 tournament for midlands title
 
Feb 25, 2016
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That's pretty shit

It's like #Fantascruff all over again

Maybe I'll sack off Groves Eubank live in that case. Was waiting for that to be my first live boxing

Maybe I'll just do a York Hall show instead, that seems like it'll be much better
 

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That's pretty shit

It's like #Fantascruff all over again

Maybe I'll sack off Groves Eubank live in that case. Was waiting for that to be my first live boxing

Maybe I'll just do a York Hall show instead, that seems like it'll be much better
I've been to York Hall more times than I could count and never seen any real trouble
 
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I mean how can this happen with so much staff just standing there watching? The amount of times the guy with the pony tale on jumps over the barriers and back doing nothing is hilarious.

I think a drinks ban would be ideal tbh, they don't allow people with alcohol in football grounds for this exact reason but unlike football where there's a 20 minute serving period at half time where someone can have a couple of pints at best unless they're a fish, there's not this half time set break for fans in boxing so people just have too much opportunity to get smashed and increase chances of aggression. It's a shame because it's just another example of a minority ruining it for the masses.

Having a security force that atleast looks the part will help as well because the stewards in that place wouldn't be able to control a crèche by the looks of them.