Deontay Wilder (42-1-1) vs. Andy Ruiz Jr (33-2)

Wilder vs. Ruiz Jr Winner and How?

  • Deontay Wilder Stoppage

    Votes: 27 77.1%
  • Deontay Wilder Decision

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Draw

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Andy Ruiz Jr Decision

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Andy Ruiz Jr Stoppage

    Votes: 8 22.9%

  • Total voters
    35
Jun 6, 2013
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I guarantee you will see the lucrative trilogy soon, not Ruiz vs Wilder.

Why else would Ruiz have allowed himself to get so heavy again? He obviously had no intention of winning the rematch. WAAAAY too much money to be made in the trilogy, and against a fighter he might actually beat.

Fury and Wilder will still be around after that, and he'll get to face them whether he wins AJ II or not.

Really, losing this fight was a no brainer for team Ruiz.
 
Jun 4, 2013
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Ruiz lost to Joshua tonight.
I reckon Wilder loses to Fury in February.

How does this fight go if they get matched up next summer?
Hopefully Wilder knocks that fat fuck out of the game. If Ruiz from Joshua 1 shows up, what I said previously in this thread carries. If Ruiz from Joshua 2, Wilder should be able to end him.
 
Jun 4, 2013
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I guarantee you will see the lucrative trilogy soon, not Ruiz vs Wilder.

Why else would Ruiz have allowed himself to get so heavy again? He obviously had no intention of winning the rematch. WAAAAY too much money to be made in the trilogy, and against a fighter he might actually beat.

Fury and Wilder will still be around after that, and he'll get to face them whether he wins AJ II or not.

Really, losing this fight was a no brainer for team Ruiz.
Who the hell wants to see that third fight? It was conclusive, and Ruiz’ disrespect to the game and to the fans is unforgivable.
Maybe Ruiz let himself get heavy because he won the lottery, and he was already inclined to be lazy? In your mind you think that he purposely didn’t train so that there’s a third fight?
You come out with some absolutely bizarre ideas at times.
 
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Who the hell wants to see that third fight? It was conclusive, and Ruiz’ disrespect to the game and to the fans is unforgivable.
Maybe Ruiz let himself get heavy because he won the lottery, and he was already inclined to be lazy? In your mind you think that he purposely didn’t train so that there’s a third fight?
You come out with some absolutely bizarre ideas at times.


You can't see what's right in front of you. my brother.
 
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If Ruiz had wanted a third fight then he should have tried harder to make this one close or entertaining.

Team AJ will be more than happy to move on from Ruiz, and they public aren't going to call for a rematch after a dull(ish), routine, 10 rounds to 2 win.
 
Oct 29, 2018
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Who the hell wants to see that third fight? It was conclusive, and Ruiz’ disrespect to the game and to the fans is unforgivable.
Maybe Ruiz let himself get heavy because he won the lottery, and he was already inclined to be lazy? In your mind you think that he purposely didn’t train so that there’s a third fight?
You come out with some absolutely bizarre ideas at times.
I don't want to see a third fight either. But don't forget how conclusive Ruiz won the first fight. Four knock downs and an extra large dose of humiliation.
 
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I don't want to see a third fight either. But don't forget how conclusive Ruiz won the first fight. Four knock downs and an extra large dose of humiliation.

Yep, and now he'll face some jpourneyman, enter the ring at 260 lbs, and blast the guy out.

Then everyone will be saying he only lost the rematch because he didn't train, "But look at him now!"


And the bullshit just continues flowing down the hill.........
(And another 20 mil into Andy's pocket, without even having to face Wilder or Fury.)


Mo money! Mo money! Mo money! Mo money!
 
Oct 29, 2018
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Yep, and now he'll face some jpourneyman, enter the ring at 260 lbs, and blast the guy out.

Then everyone will be saying he only lost the rematch because he didn't train, "But look at him now!"


And the bullshit just continues flowing down the hill.........
(And another 20 mil into Andy's pocket, without even having to face Wilder or Fury.)


Mo money! Mo money! Mo money! Mo money!
Nice gig if you can get it.
 
Jun 6, 2013
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Yeah, Helenius makes the most sense.

Wilder obviously needs an easy, confidence-building fight. Usyk is too slippery & athletic. Whyte is too tough. Ruiz is WAY too dangerous. Parker, should he get past Jr Fa, is (at his best) all wrong for Wilder since he's a come-forward swarmer.

Helenius makes a nice, big target, has a questionable chin, is getting older & slower, and he prefers to fight from distance where Wilder is the most dangerous.
And I'm sure he'd be thrilled to take the fight.
 
May 22, 2013
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Yeah, Helenius makes the most sense.

Wilder obviously needs an easy, confidence-building fight. Usyk is too slippery & athletic. Whyte is too tough. Ruiz is WAY too dangerous. Parker, should he get past Jr Fa, is (at his best) all wrong for Wilder since he's a come-forward swarmer.

Helenius makes a nice, big target, has a questionable chin, is getting older & slower, and he prefers to fight from distance where Wilder is the most dangerous.
And I'm sure he'd be thrilled to take the fight.

The more excuses I hear, the less credit I can give to Wilder and maybe I am still giving him to much here. But I think he definitely is able to take out Ruiz.
 
Jun 7, 2013
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I can see Rizwan this. Joshua won by boxing on the outside, like he should have the first fight. Wilder can't box for shit
 
Jun 6, 2013
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The more excuses I hear, the less credit I can give to Wilder and maybe I am still giving him to much here. But I think he definitely is able to take out Ruiz.

Sure, he probably would take out Andy, but why take a chance on such a good & dangerous counterpuncher, if Helenius (or even Parker) are available?
 
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May 22, 2013
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Sure, he probably would take out Andy, but why take a chance on such a good & dangerous counterpuncher, if Helenius (or even Parker) are available?
True but he is becoming a laughing stock. He needs a credible win.


Although he keeps up these bullshit excuses so maybe he's fine with being ridiculed.