Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury II Confirmed (after Ortiz)

Wilder vs Fury II Who Wins & How?


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For the Hearn fans claiming these 2 are ducking AJ im still confused as to why Whyte ducked AJ when they have the same promoter, the main issues when making big fights is the promoters and somehow everyone is ducking AJ even people under the same promotional company, makes no sense Hearn must be giving the dodgiest offers ever or something
 

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For the Hearn fans claiming these 2 are ducking AJ im still confused as to why Whyte ducked AJ when they have the same promoter, the main issues when making big fights is the promoters and somehow everyone is ducking AJ even people under the same promotional company, makes no sense Hearn must be giving the dodgiest offers ever or something
Who said 'everyone is ducking AJ'?

And how can everyone be ducking him when he's beating them all? There's only two guys left for him to fight, Deontay Wilder has delayed this fight and rejected ridiculous offers in order to go down a longer route. That's a swerve, no matter how sensible or smart you think it is. The Ortiz fight is pathetic and that should be Joshua, the reason it isn't is because Wilder didn't want it.

If Wilder is so open to big fights, why has he only got one top five win on his resume in over 40 fights, why hasn't he fought the top guys? We know he only took the Fury fight because he saw a wounded animal and a way to exit the Joshua negotiations.
 
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Who said 'everyone is ducking AJ'?

And how can everyone be ducking him when he's beating them all? There's only two guys left for him to fight, Deontay Wilder has delayed this fight and rejected ridiculous offers in order to go down a longer route. That's a swerve, no matter how sensible or smart you think it is. The Ortiz fight is pathetic and that should be Joshua, the reason it isn't is because Wilder didn't want it.

If Wilder is so open to big fights, why has he only got one top five win on his resume in over 40 fights, why hasn't he fought the top guys? We know he only took the Fury fight because he saw a wounded animal and a way to exit the Joshua negotiations.
The 40 fights doesnt mean anything most pro's dont even take it serious at the beginning some are still partying etc 20 fights in, Wilder fought Ortiz and Fury thats 2 decent opponents and Povetkin failed a drug test and all Hearn fans are saying everyone is ducking AJ meaning Whyte, Wilder and Fury, i wasnt even attacking AJ fans was attacking the Hearn fans who support promoters

All I was saying is its clearly Eddie Hearn messing this whole situation up, I dont see it as a swerve Eddie offered him a shit offer if he beats Fury he will guaranteed get a 50/50 split, why take $12m when you can get a $100m 1 year later? He will fight AJ next year I dont believe anyone is ducking its just Hearn messing it up
 
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All I was saying is its clearly Eddie Hearn messing this whole situation up, I dont see it as a swerve Eddie offered him a shit offer if he beats Fury he will guaranteed get a 50/50 split, why take $12m when you can get a $100m 1 year later? He will fight AJ next year I dont believe anyone is ducking its just Hearn messing it up
This is simply wrong. Hearn/DAZN offered Wilder $100 million for 3 fights. Fight 1 was Breazeale. Fight 2 was AJ. Fight 3 was a second AJ fight if he wanted it or another undecided fight.

He said no. His team and him have admitted they turned down $100 million for a 3 fight deal.

He just earned $10 million for Breazeale. So he needs his next 2 bouts to earn him over $90 million in order for it to have been a financially sound move.

It's Ortiz next. At a push, let's say he gets $15 million for that rematch. He will need his third fight to get him $75 million in order to make the same as the DAZN deal. :lol:

You reckon Wilder-Fury 2 has a pot of $150 million? I don't.
 
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This is simply wrong. Hearn/DAZN offered Wilder $100 million for 3 fights. Fight 1 was Breazeale. Fight 2 was AJ. Fight 3 was a second AJ fight if he wanted it or another undecided fight.

He said no. His team and him have admitted they turned down $100 million for a 3 fight deal.

He just earned $10 million for Breazeale. So he needs his next 2 bouts to earn him over $90 million in order for it to have been a financially sound move.

It's Ortiz next. At a push, let's say he gets $15 million for that rematch. He will need his third fight to get him $75 million in order to make the same as the DAZN deal. :lol:

You reckon Wilder-Fury 2 has a pot of $150 million? I don't.
Im saying if Wilder beats Fury properly he will get a 50/50 split against AJ they will both make £100m each, so from a £12m offer to £100m in 2 years which is what the plan was from the start
 
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Im saying if Wilder beats Fury properly he will get a 50/50 split against AJ they will both make £100m each, so from a £12m offer to £100m in 2 years which is what the plan was from the start
Well that's a lot of ifs, and it remains ludicrous to turn down $100 million for 3 fights, and let's not forget what Wilder said.

He said, he turned it down because he doesn't want his fights on PPV, as he wants as many fans as possible to see them. :lol:

So if he's not lying, he wouldn't want an AJ fight on PPV, and if it wasn't then it would not provide anything like $100 million each.
 
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Well that's a lot of ifs, and it remains ludicrous to turn down $100 million for 3 fights, and let's not forget what Wilder said.

He said, he turned it down because he doesn't want his fights on PPV, as he wants as many fans as possible to see them. :lol:

So if he's not lying, he wouldn't want an AJ fight on PPV, and if it wasn't then it would not provide anything like $100 million each.
In sport you back yourself and no more so than in boxing.

Wilder has already shown all of the shortsighted people up who said he was mad not to accept what Hearn initially offered and the price has gone up in multiples ever since.

Easy to point the finger at Wilder. But if Joshua had accepted a 50% split to fight Wilder he would have made a lot more than he did for fighting each of the opponents he has fought instead.
 
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Genuinely happy to see this been made. Thought of they went into an immediate rematch then fury would suffer for it with having such a long camp. But I think this could be perfect for him having a break a warm up fight then onto wilder again
 
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In sport you back yourself and no more so than in boxing.

Wilder has already shown all of the shortsighted people up who said he was mad not to accept what Hearn initially offered and the price has gone up in multiples ever since.

Easy to point the finger at Wilder. But if Joshua had accepted a 50% split to fight Wilder he would have made a lot more than he did for fighting each of the opponents he has fought instead.
Two simple questions...

1. Do you believe Wilder rejected $100 million for 3 fights because he doesn't want his fights on PPV? Yes or No?

2. Do you think Wilder earns more than $90 million for Ortiz 2 and whatever fight comes after that? Yes or No?
 
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Two simple questions...

1. Do you believe Wilder rejected $100 million for 3 fights because he doesn't want his fights on PPV? Yes or No?

2. Do you think Wilder earns more than $90 million for Ortiz 2 and whatever fight comes after that? Yes or No?
One simple answer for you. You are trying to over analyze something simple.

Wilder wants 50%. They won't give it to him. So he won't sign.
 
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Sick to the back teeth with boxing at the moment for this reason. Wilder saying he wants to set right his "controversial" fights, but he knocked out Ortiz. Nothing controversial about it. Why take the Ortiz fight next?! Why not fight Joshua for all the belts, then the winner puts them on the line against Fury? Fury has nothing to offer than his "lineal" claim. ARRGGHH! :wall