Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury II Confirmed (after Ortiz)

Wilder vs Fury II Who Wins & How?


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TFG

Jul 23, 2013
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I said Wilder WANTS 50% not that he DESERVES it.

Nice try though.
I couldn't care less what he wants, we're talking about who is to blame for the fight not happening.

He's asking for something he doesn't deserve and turning down ridiculous money whilst doing so.

He's the reason the fight isn't happening right now.

Why aren't you criticizing him for this, do you want to wait another few years for the fight, or until one of them gets knocked out?
 
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Won't call it a safe fight for Wilder. Fury could do better in the rematch but Wilder stands to be much better by virtue of his ability to knock Fury out. Fury only has so much left to expand on.

And now that there are 12 recorded rounds between them that's a lot of footage for Wilder to improve on. Wilder KO.
 
Jun 4, 2012
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One simple answer for you. You are trying to over analyze something simple.

Wilder wants 50%. They won't give it to him. So he won't sign.
:lol:

So you can't even bring yourself to answer two questions and discuss the issue objectively. I have zero bias in this, but the people who do stand out a mile.
 
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Wilder doesn't deserve 50 percent.

Explain to me why he does and please support that with some numbers.
Who cares? Hearn should realise it's 50:50 for the Wilder or Fury fight or they don't happen. The greedy fecker. They will be making a fortune anyways, forget the ego bullshit. Stay humble and all that...
 
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:lol:

So you can't even bring yourself to answer two questions and discuss the issue objectively. I have zero bias in this, but the people who do stand out a mile.
One guy trying to put words in my mouth and the other asking futile me questions.

50/50 makes the fight. A fight I'd like to see. Yet it seems many would rather play on-line boxing manager intent on finding reasons why the fight shouldn't happen.
 
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Aug 28, 2014
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Well that's a lot of ifs, and it remains ludicrous to turn down $100 million for 3 fights, and let's not forget what Wilder said.

He said, he turned it down because he doesn't want his fights on PPV, as he wants as many fans as possible to see them. :lol:

So if he's not lying, he wouldn't want an AJ fight on PPV, and if it wasn't then it would not provide anything like $100 million each.
Fury fight is a tough task but if he wins hes guaranteed £100m and probably a rematch clause it was a smart move to wait it out

I can never trust Hearn's offers he couldnt even make a fight between 2 fighters in his own stable (Joshua vs Whyte) hes been been making dodgy contracts even Whyte said the money was fine it was the rematch clause that was the problem
 
Aug 28, 2014
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Wilder doesn't deserve 50 percent.

Explain to me why he does and please support that with some numbers.
Thats not the issue anymore Wilder will get 50% if he beats Fury even Hearn knows that
 
Aug 2, 2013
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Sick to the back teeth with boxing at the moment for this reason. Wilder saying he wants to set right his "controversial" fights, but he knocked out Ortiz. Nothing controversial about it. Why take the Ortiz fight next?! Why not fight Joshua for all the belts, then the winner puts them on the line against Fury? Fury has nothing to offer than his "lineal" claim. ARRGGHH! :wall
"Controversial" was probably the wrong word. He probably meant "Toughest" or "Closer" fights. I don't think anyone should have a problem with either rematch. Ortiz was his toughest win, and he couldn't beat Fury, so it makes sense. At least both fights will likely be competitive and exciting.
 
Jun 10, 2013
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Sick to the back teeth with boxing at the moment for this reason. Wilder saying he wants to set right his "controversial" fights, but he knocked out Ortiz. Nothing controversial about it. Why take the Ortiz fight next?! Why not fight Joshua for all the belts, then the winner puts them on the line against Fury? Fury has nothing to offer than his "lineal" claim. ARRGGHH! :wall
The Ortiz fight was one of the best fights of last year - that's a perfectly normal and reasonable basis for a rematch.

And people were clamoring for a Fury rematch the moment the first fight ended.

Signing to fight Joshua requires that Wilder depart Showtime and sign a contract with DAZN. Given that Showtime is a well-established network with a whole stable of potential opponents and DAZN is just a startup company with a much smaller stable that refuses to release financial info, his choice here also seems pretty reasonable.
 
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Jun 6, 2013
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I like Fury a lot these days. (As a person, not a fighter)

And heck, I agree that he clearly won the first fight, though mostly because Wilder fought like a complete moron.

However, I hope that in the rematch, they have a ref that stops Fury from illegally ducking below Wilder's waste for the entire fight.
If Fury still wins, then fantastic, but it needs to be a fully legit win.

I'm not complaining about this re the first fight, because ego-maniac Wilder threw it away anyway, but I really want to see a great rematch, with both men doing their best, and both men sticking to the rules.