Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury II February 22nd 2020 Confirmed!

Wilder vs Fury Who Wins & How?


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Fury was robbed the first fight. He outboxed Wilder and won way more rounds, but I guess the judges only saw the 2 knockdowns Wilder had.

I don't like Wilder, not even a little bit and hope Fury takes this next fight. He's just got to avoid that power, because that's about all Wilder has.
 

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Fury was robbed the first fight. He outboxed Wilder and won way more rounds, but I guess the judges only saw the 2 knockdowns Wilder had.

I don't like Wilder, not even a little bit and hope Fury takes this next fight. He's just got to avoid that power, because that's about all Wilder has.
Understatement of the year

David Haye

“I’ve sparred with Deontay Wilder many times,” Haye said. “He’s got a very, very, very, hard right hand and it’s an equaliser.

“I’ve hit Deontay Wilder on the chin with shots that would have knocked out most heavyweights and he’s been able to stay on his feet.

“He may get buzzed, but he’s still on his feet and he was firing back.

“I brought him into camp, prior to the Wladimir Klitschko fight when he was younger. He’s always been really good, he’s always been fast. He’s given me probably the most competitive rounds I’ve ever had in sparring.

“I always really respected him, from the first sparring session I ever had with him, I knew this guy was something special.

“His punch power is 10 out of 10, that’s it. I don’t know how else to say it. You know when you’ve been hit by him. It’s very different to anyone else.

“He is the hardest puncher I’ve ever been in the ring with.”


Audley Harrison

He said of Wilder: “Hard as nails. I had him in camp for sparring a year before we fought and he was over for about five weeks to prepare me for David Price.

“He almost had my eye out in sparring one day – he caught me with this shot and it nearly detached my retina and suddenly I had to stop training for eight or nine days.

“Aside from the power, Wilder is unique. He is very tall, very fast and very unorthodox in how he moves – you cannot pin him down.

“He can actually be quite ungainly but he is effective because he has that explosive hand speed.

“His punches come at you so fast – when the right hand caught me that ended the fight, I didn’t even see it coming. The punch came at such an unusual angle and so fast there was no getting out the way.

“One thing people don’t usually say about him and they should is that his jab is very good. But that right hand is the thing.

“With Wilder, it’s not just that power but it’s the explosive speed that he has that can just send you to sleep.

“He can knock you out with the jab and with the right hand.”


Malik Scott

“Deontay is very unorthodox, has huge power, more agility than most and is probably the fastest heavyweight on the planet,” he told the Daily Mail. “And he is mean – really mean.

“I have boxed with Deontay 10 years – sparring and in our fight – and his skill is underrated. People don’t want to believe he is this good, but believe me, he is.

“When we fought he caught me on the temple with a left hook and then a right down the middle. People say they weren’t clean hits but he has that power to put you on the ground.

“In the ring he is a hard guy to predict. He can box but he can go berserk, go wild, you know.

“He goes beyond Mike Tyson in some ways – Tyson would sometimes let someone take a clinch on him and take his time on them. Deontay doesn’t do that. He doesn’t let you waste the clock, he gets straight on you, tries to smash you.”

Eric Molina

“Wilder could knock out a bull if he hit it in the head. It’s just a matter of ‘when’ in that fight,” he told FightHype.com.

“If he touches anybody with that right hand, on any part of the head, they’re going to dance or go down and go to sleep. It is what it is.

“I’ve been in there with the man who I think is the biggest puncher in boxing history in Deontay Wilder. Once you’ve faced those guys, everybody else is… come on.”
 
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Understatement of the year

David Haye

“I’ve sparred with Deontay Wilder many times,” Haye said. “He’s got a very, very, very, hard right hand and it’s an equaliser.

“I’ve hit Deontay Wilder on the chin with shots that would have knocked out most heavyweights and he’s been able to stay on his feet.

“He may get buzzed, but he’s still on his feet and he was firing back.

“I brought him into camp, prior to the Wladimir Klitschko fight when he was younger. He’s always been really good, he’s always been fast. He’s given me probably the most competitive rounds I’ve ever had in sparring.

“I always really respected him, from the first sparring session I ever had with him, I knew this guy was something special.

“His punch power is 10 out of 10, that’s it. I don’t know how else to say it. You know when you’ve been hit by him. It’s very different to anyone else.

“He is the hardest puncher I’ve ever been in the ring with.”


Audley Harrison

He said of Wilder: “Hard as nails. I had him in camp for sparring a year before we fought and he was over for about five weeks to prepare me for David Price.

“He almost had my eye out in sparring one day – he caught me with this shot and it nearly detached my retina and suddenly I had to stop training for eight or nine days.

“Aside from the power, Wilder is unique. He is very tall, very fast and very unorthodox in how he moves – you cannot pin him down.

“He can actually be quite ungainly but he is effective because he has that explosive hand speed.

“His punches come at you so fast – when the right hand caught me that ended the fight, I didn’t even see it coming. The punch came at such an unusual angle and so fast there was no getting out the way.

“One thing people don’t usually say about him and they should is that his jab is very good. But that right hand is the thing.

“With Wilder, it’s not just that power but it’s the explosive speed that he has that can just send you to sleep.

“He can knock you out with the jab and with the right hand.”


Malik Scott

“Deontay is very unorthodox, has huge power, more agility than most and is probably the fastest heavyweight on the planet,” he told the Daily Mail. “And he is mean – really mean.

“I have boxed with Deontay 10 years – sparring and in our fight – and his skill is underrated. People don’t want to believe he is this good, but believe me, he is.

“When we fought he caught me on the temple with a left hook and then a right down the middle. People say they weren’t clean hits but he has that power to put you on the ground.

“In the ring he is a hard guy to predict. He can box but he can go berserk, go wild, you know.

“He goes beyond Mike Tyson in some ways – Tyson would sometimes let someone take a clinch on him and take his time on them. Deontay doesn’t do that. He doesn’t let you waste the clock, he gets straight on you, tries to smash you.”

Eric Molina

“Wilder could knock out a bull if he hit it in the head. It’s just a matter of ‘when’ in that fight,” he told FightHype.com.

“If he touches anybody with that right hand, on any part of the head, they’re going to dance or go down and go to sleep. It is what it is.

“I’ve been in there with the man who I think is the biggest puncher in boxing history in Deontay Wilder. Once you’ve faced those guys, everybody else is… come on.”
Funny how molina said that then got ICED by the first power shot AJ landed.

Anyway Wilder will ko fury again and this time he won't get up
 

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Fury was robbed the first fight. He outboxed Wilder and won way more rounds, but I guess the judges only saw the 2 knockdowns Wilder had.

I don't like Wilder, not even a little bit and hope Fury takes this next fight. He's just got to avoid that power, because that's about all Wilder has.
Fury tickled Wilder with a little flicky jab, outlanding him by two tickly jabs a round.

Wilder FLATTENED fury, sparko on the canvas, only a miracle waking him up.

So.... tickly little jab or getting FLATTENED

I know who I'd rather be coming out of that fight.
 
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Fury tickled Wilder with a little flicky jab, outlanding him by two tickly jabs a round.

Wilder FLATTENED fury, sparko on the canvas, only a miracle waking him up.

So.... tickly little jab or getting FLATTENED

I know who I'd rather be coming out of that fight.
I may have been giving you too much credit assuming you knew how boxing matches are scored.
 

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I may have been giving you too much credit assuming you knew how boxing matches are scored.
Well personally I think they need to look at the way fights are scored because how can tapping someone with two tickly jabs a round be worth more than smashing someone in the face so hard they probably have brain damage
 
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Well personally I think they need to look at the way fights are scored because how can tapping someone with two tickly jabs a round be worth more than smashing someone in the face so hard they probably have brain damage
I was right. You don't know how to score a boxing match. :verysad
 

Hkbrit

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I was right. You don't know how to score a boxing match. :verysad
Put it this way let's say you were going to have a fight.

Would you rather go in knowing

A) a guy is going to tickle you with a jab for a bit, you will miss quite a bit but you won't be hurt at all

B) you are going to get hit so hard you collapse on the floor unconscious with your eyes rolled into the back of your head

This is where boxing is dying, the scoring system promotes not actually fighting.
 
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Put it this way let's say you were going to have a fight.

Would you rather go in knowing

A) a guy is going to tickle you with a jab for a bit, you will miss quite a bit but you won't be hurt at all

B) you are going to get hit so hard you collapse on the floor unconscious with your eyes rolled into the back of your head

This is where boxing is dying, the scoring system promotes not actually fighting.
Here's a first for you.

Every round in boxing is scored like a separate fight.
 
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Well personally I think they need to look at the way fights are scored because how can tapping someone with two tickly jabs a round be worth more than smashing someone in the face so hard they probably have brain damage
I had to take you off ignore to see this, (I was wondering why there were so many arguments with the invisible man going on), and I have a couple of thoughts for you.

1. This is a great fight, and one that will crown the "man" in the division. Why are you being such a negative Nancy and moaning about it?

I assume you are a boxing fan and an adult? If so, why would you let your own biases detract from your enjoyment of a good fight? It's pathetic.

2. Boxing is already scored like you say.

The main determinant in each round is clean punches landed. Judges must weigh-up the quality and quantity of punches landed, with affect on the opponent being a key consideration.

Despite that, almost everyone had Fury winning the fight. Wilder barely landed in most rounds, and when he did land, he put Fury down and/or won the rounds clearly.

Fury out landed Wilder in most rounds however, he also landed more power punches than he usually does, and they did affect Wilder at times.

Finally, if there were rounds where one couldn't separate them on clean punches, then Fury was almost always winning on the other scoring criteria of effective aggression, ring generalship, and defense.

This is basic stuff.

Just chill out on the hatred and bile and enjoy a good fight.
 

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I had to take you off ignore to see this, (I was wondering why there were so many arguments with the invisible man going on), and I have a couple of thoughts for you.

1. This is a great fight, and one that will crown the "man" in the division. Why are you being such a negative Nancy and moaning about it?

I assume you are a boxing fan and an adult? If so, why would you let your own biases detract from your enjoyment of a good fight? It's pathetic.

2. Boxing is already scored like you say.

The main determinant in each round is clean punches landed. Judges must weigh-up the quality and quantity of punches landed, with affect on the opponent being a key consideration.

Despite that, almost everyone had Fury winning the fight. Wilder barely landed in most rounds, and when he did land, he put Fury down and/or won the rounds clearly.

Fury out landed Wilder in most rounds however, he also landed more power punches than he usually does, and they did affect Wilder at times.

Finally, if there were rounds where one couldn't separate them on clean punches, then Fury was almost always winning on the other scoring criteria of effective aggression, ring generalship, and defense.

This is basic stuff.

Just chill out on the hatred and bile and enjoy a good fight.
He just has nothing better to do with his holidays than troll here. As soon as his leave runs out he will too.
 

Hkbrit

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I had to take you off ignore to see this, (I was wondering why there were so many arguments with the invisible man going on), and I have a couple of thoughts for you.

1. This is a great fight, and one that will crown the "man" in the division. Why are you being such a negative Nancy and moaning about it?

I assume you are a boxing fan and an adult? If so, why would you let your own biases detract from your enjoyment of a good fight? It's pathetic.

2. Boxing is already scored like you say.

The main determinant in each round is clean punches landed. Judges must weigh-up the quality and quantity of punches landed, with affect on the opponent being a key consideration.

Despite that, almost everyone had Fury winning the fight. Wilder barely landed in most rounds, and when he did land, he put Fury down and/or won the rounds clearly.

Fury out landed Wilder in most rounds however, he also landed more power punches than he usually does, and they did affect Wilder at times.

Finally, if there were rounds where one couldn't separate them on clean punches, then Fury was almost always winning on the other scoring criteria of effective aggression, ring generalship, and defense.

This is basic stuff.

Just chill out on the hatred and bile and enjoy a good fight.
Fury was the better ring general but if you are scoring accurately under clean punching it was a lot closers than many care to admit, Fury landed 6 more jabs and 7 more power shots in the entire fight

It's one thing making them miss, Fury did fairly well at this, but he wasn't making Wilder pay, as agressive as it got from Fury was throwing a flurry of about 4 arm punches that bounced off Wilders gloves.

Most rounds were dead close and Wilder had two 10-8's take away the crowd noise and biased commentary and Fury was lucky to get a draw.

As for this rematch being a good fight. Its ok but personally I'm getting a little tired of this weird WBC circle that's going on, and they are already talking about a trilogy. So that'll be another two tune ups then we will get that in 2021.

The fight should have happened 10 months ago, we have guys like Usyk and Hrgovic coming up and I want to see these guys get their shots soon.
 
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Fury was the better ring general but if you are scoring accurately under clean punching it was a lot closers than many care to admit, Fury landed 6 more jabs and 7 more power shots in the entire fight

It's one thing making them miss, Fury did fairly well at this, but he wasn't making Wilder pay, as agressive as it got from Fury was throwing a flurry of about 4 arm punches that bounced off Wilders gloves.

Most rounds were dead close and Wilder had two 10-8's take away the crowd noise and biased commentary and Fury was lucky to get a draw.

As for this rematch being a good fight. Its ok but personally I'm getting a little tired of this weird WBC circle that's going on, and they are already talking about a trilogy. So that'll be another two tune ups then we will get that in 2021.

The fight should have happened 10 months ago, we have guys like Usyk and Hrgovic coming up and I want to see these guys get their shots soon.
Some people need to be told everything three times. Here is the second :

Every round in boxing is scored like a separate fight.

A further hint for you. Entire fight statistics are meaningless unless you win rounds.
 
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Some people need to be told everything three times. Here is the second :

Every round in boxing is scored like a separate fight.

A further hint for you. Entire fight statistics are meaningless unless you win rounds.

Exactly. If Fury taps Wilder with jabs 4 rounds in a row and gets nothing back in offense from Wilder, but in round 5 Wilder hits him with a haymaker and stuns Fury, it's still scored 4-1 in Fury's favor.

Some people just don't understand how this is done and it's a good thing they are not fight judges or masterful boxers would have dismal records if scoring fights were left to them.
 

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I think its a mistake for Fury to switch trainers this close to the fight. I hope it works out in his favor.
 

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Fury was the better ring general but if you are scoring accurately under clean punching it was a lot closers than many care to admit, Fury landed 6 more jabs and 7 more power shots in the entire fight

It's one thing making them miss, Fury did fairly well at this, but he wasn't making Wilder pay, as agressive as it got from Fury was throwing a flurry of about 4 arm punches that bounced off Wilders gloves.

Most rounds were dead close and Wilder had two 10-8's take away the crowd noise and biased commentary and Fury was lucky to get a draw.

As for this rematch being a good fight. Its ok but personally I'm getting a little tired of this weird WBC circle that's going on, and they are already talking about a trilogy. So that'll be another two tune ups then we will get that in 2021.

The fight should have happened 10 months ago, we have guys like Usyk and Hrgovic coming up and I want to see these guys get their shots soon.
Yeah it's not like Fury put Wilder in a blender the first fight


Gonna be interesting the pleas that will be copped if Tyson is knocked out.
 
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Exactly. If Fury taps Wilder with jabs 4 rounds in a row and gets nothing back in offense from Wilder, but in round 5 Wilder hits him with a haymaker and stuns Fury, it's still scored 4-1 in Fury's favor.

Some people just don't understand how this is done and it's a good thing they are not fight judges or masterful boxers would have dismal records if scoring fights were left to them.
:cheers and it staggers me that someone who posts on a boxing forum doesn't understand how rounds and fights are scored.
 
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Yeah it's not like Fury put Wilder in a blender the first fight


Gonna be interesting the pleas that will be copped if Tyson is knocked out.
Another one struggling to understand how fights are scored. Fights are not scored off highlight reels. Every round is scored standalone. Nothing that precedes that round or follows it influences how that 3 minutes is scored.
 
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Lets be honest here,
Furys got to win convincingly to take DW’s belt in America.
Boxing is not exactly known for its integrity.
 
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