Deontay Wilder (WBC) vs. Anthony Joshua

Joshua vs. Wilder Winner and How?

  • Anthony Joshua Stoppage

    Votes: 18 45.0%
  • Anthony Joshua Decision

    Votes: 1 2.5%
  • Deontay Wilder Decision

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Deontay Wilder Stoppage

    Votes: 21 52.5%

  • Total voters
    40
Jan 28, 2014
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Also, Joshua wouldn't have survived that first knockdown even if he had got back up. The 2nd I honestly don't believe there is a man on the planet other than Fury that would have got up from that.

I have never seen anything like it in my life.

Joshua is legit number 3 but I really feel like his attributes are being massively over rated when trying to make a case for him beating Wilder and Fury.
 
Apr 12, 2014
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Could be a total 50/50 firefight, neither has the boxing skills of Fury but both have more firepower. One thing i do know is AJ wouldn't have survived that KD in the 12th. I'd like Joshua to win because it would really setup AJ vs Fury. Both would in my eyes have beaten the next best guy and it would really be 1 vs 2. Right now Fury is number 1 for me and AJ and Wilder are on a level.
 
Nov 22, 2014
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I can only assume AJ has alot of fans on here because as someone who doesn't care who wins and looks at the fight impartially I honestly cant see anything but a Wilder win by KO. There were even people of Twitter yesterday saying AJ has more skill than Fury and probably hits harder than Wilder so would 100% beat both of them.

Joshua is just too stiff and robotic to get close enough to Wilder enough to lad a flurry of punches for a "Joshua stoppage" and he will inevitably get hit at some stage, and I think if your aren't some sort of super human gypsy fighting man then taking a shot from Wilder means you probably go to kip for a bit.
I would prefer AJ to win but I don't think that's causing impartiality, i just don't think it's as black and white for either fighter. Joshua does throw good strong and fast combinations and Wilder is a lot less effective when being backed up. I just think it's who gets to who first and given he's better technically (that wilder) and is more aggressive than Fury, i think that's AJ.

I don't have *any* confidence in that as a prediction, though.
 
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Jun 28, 2013
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I honestly think AJ can beat Fury. I think AJ is a more technically polished boxer, along with having a good ring IQ. He's fought and beat a slick boxer in Parker, and I believe he's learned a lot since the Klitschko fight. It is a genuine triple threat between Fury, Wilder and Joshua. Wilder and Joshua is a 50/50 fight, but Fury is a better boxer than Wilder and AJ is a good boxer who can cause Fury more problems than Wilder can. I genuinely don't know who would win out of Wilder vs AJ.
 
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People referring to Joshuas "technical" ability says it all really, anyone can be coached to throw a punch correctly, without all the other skills or attributes you wont get an opportunity to hit anyone with your technically aesthetic punches.

In my opinion, Joshua is too stiff, too upright and actually too hindered by his coaching in that it makes him extremely predictable to have any chance of beating Fury and very little chance of beating Wilder.

Joshua, has done amazingly well up to now but Fury and Wilder are all wrong for him, I actually think that the re-match with Whyte is far from a foregone conclusion.
 
Nov 22, 2014
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People referring to Joshuas "technical" ability says it all really, anyone can be coached to throw a punch correctly, without all the other skills or attributes you wont get an opportunity to hit anyone with your technically aesthetic punches.

In my opinion, Joshua is too stiff, too upright and actually too hindered by his coaching in that it makes him extremely predictable to have any chance of beating Fury and very little chance of beating Wilder.

Joshua, has done amazingly well up to now but Fury and Wilder are all wrong for him, I actually think that the re-match with Whyte is far from a foregone conclusion.
I understand where you're coming from and agree to an extent but for all his rigidity and shortcomings, all of which are constantly highlighted, he's still beaten everyone and has a decent resume. He's also got a good chin which helps him against fury, I don't see him surviving a clean shot from wilder, though.
 
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People referring to Joshuas "technical" ability says it all really, anyone can be coached to throw a punch correctly, without all the other skills or attributes you wont get an opportunity to hit anyone with your technically aesthetic punches.

In my opinion, Joshua is too stiff, too upright and actually too hindered by his coaching in that it makes him extremely predictable to have any chance of beating Fury and very little chance of beating Wilder.

Joshua, has done amazingly well up to now but Fury and Wilder are all wrong for him, I actually think that the re-match with Whyte is far from a foregone conclusion.
I think the fact that AJ is very solid and compact goes a way towards this.
I pointed out on another post, that Wilder covers distance well, but he does so as he starts at a safer, longer range and by fuck does he need to be quick, because he telegraphs those bastards
Joshua will get closer into range, with his physique, he can throw jabs and move into range and pick up a lot of shots on his shoulders, something Fury did very well against Deontay, he used his body position well to deflect many of Wilders shots.
So AJ starts closer and is more compact and there is less of a tell that his shorter more direct shots are coming. Is he brilliantly skilled? Maybe not but technically very good and gets himself into good positions to throw,
the fact that he can get tight heavy combinations also makes him more dangerous in some ways that Wilder, who wants to tee of a big one two and maybe get out. AJ can throw a greater variety, he has a great attacking arsenal and more punches and variations that can hurt you IMO

Christ, Wilder only just seems to have discovered the left bloody hook.

Some one was saying people are saying AJ hits harder than Deontay and has more skill than Fury. That's pish.
But he certainly has more skill than Wilder and more power than Fury, which if nothing else makes him the most well rounded of the 3
 
Jul 6, 2012
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Imagine beating Breazeale and he gets offered more than 100m for 2 fights with Joshua...
what like 130m or 140m? nowhere near worth the risk of not taking it. the opportunity cost of losing 100m far far far far far outweighs the the benefits of an extra 30m on an already huge amount. he loses hes the b side and back on 3m a fight max.
 
this shit ruins boxing. its so hard to root for anyone when this much money is involved and they still cant/wont make it happen.
the fight will happen, when they pay Wilder what he is worth.
I believe Hearn offered Wilder $15m originally, he's now up to $40m after taking the risk of fighting Fury. He takes the risk of fighting Breazeale and that offer increases again.
Fair play to Wilder I say, he isn't just taking the money and running...
 
Jul 6, 2012
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the fight will happen, when they pay Wilder what he is worth.
I believe Hearn offered Wilder $15m originally, he's now up to $40m after taking the risk of fighting Fury. He takes the risk of fighting Breazeale and that offer increases again.
Fair play to Wilder I say, he isn't just taking the money and running...
Anyone that doesnt take an offer of 100m for three fights is completely mental.
 

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Didn't Wilders team offer Joshua 80m for 2 fights?
If Wilder beats Breazeale, as he should, then he gets an even bigger off he will be a ballsy genius...
Yes, but that was the entire pot, all the US money, all the UK money, everything. DAZN's offer to Wilder for $40 mill is not for promotional rights, it's for US broadcasting rights, meaning Wilder's actual purse would be significantly higher. Even in the early hours in the UK, it would likely do record breaking numbers on Sky Box Office, that adds another $30-$40 million to the pot alone, then there's other international revenue as well.

It's an astonishing deal.