Deontay Wilder (WBC) vs. Anthony Joshua

Joshua vs. Wilder Winner and How?

  • Anthony Joshua Stoppage

    Votes: 18 45.0%
  • Anthony Joshua Decision

    Votes: 1 2.5%
  • Deontay Wilder Decision

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Deontay Wilder Stoppage

    Votes: 21 52.5%

  • Total voters
    40

Alf

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One which will increase once he beats Breazeale...
More than likely yes. Unbelieavable money. Outside of AJ himself, it would be the highest purse of any heavyweight in history, and by a long way.

Do you reckon PBC are going to match the $20 mill for Breazeale? Cos he'd only be a ballsy genius if this is the case. If not then he's still an idiot.
 
More than likely yes. Unbelieavable money. Outside of AJ himself, it would be the highest purse of any heavyweight in history, and by a long way.

Do you reckon PBC are going to match the $20 mill for Breazeale? Cos he'd only be a ballsy genius if this is the case. If not then he's still an idiot.
If PBC pay him $10m for Breazeale and he gets $20m-$30m more for the Joshua fights out of DAZN then he's up.
Again, Wilder is backing himself. Why hate on the guy for that?
 
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the fight will happen, when they pay Wilder what he is worth.
I believe Hearn offered Wilder $15m originally, he's now up to $40m after taking the risk of fighting Fury. He takes the risk of fighting Breazeale and that offer increases again.
Fair play to Wilder I say, he isn't just taking the money and running...
Risk of fighting Breazeale and that offer increases again? I'm not sure about that, Breazeale is solid but Wilder should be beating him all night long. Wilder can increase his value further but I doubt it will be by fighting Breazeale.
 
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Alf

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If PBC pay him $10m for Breazeale and he gets $20m-$30m more for the Joshua fights out of DAZN then he's up.
Again, Wilder is backing himself. Why hate on the guy for that?
I don't tend to hate on anyone. But certainly what you're proposing is ifs and buts. You really think DAZN would increase their offer by another $20-$30 mill? I'd strongly disagree, but I'm not DAZN and stranger things have happened. Not many mind you!
 

Alf

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Risk of fighting Breazeale and that offer increases again? I'm not sure about that, Breazeale is solid but Wilder should be beating him all night long. Wilder can increase his value further but I doubt it will be by fighting Breazeale.
Certainly not to the tune of ANOTHER $20-$30 million.
 
I don't tend to hate on anyone. But certainly what you're proposing is ifs and buts. You really think DAZN would increase their offer by another $20-$30 mill? I'd strongly disagree, but I'm not DAZN and stranger things have happened. Not many mind you!
In a bidding war with ESPN.

Did you really think Wilder's value would have increased from 15mill to 40mill?
If you were advising him I reckon you would have told him to take the career high payday of 15mill to face Joshua and be happy.

Who's to say they won't pay him at least 50mill after he's beats Breazeale. I reckon they will...
 
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That is not smart on his part. He barely made more than $1 million in each fight he has had at world level. The one exception was the Fury fight, and I think he made about $12 million. He won't be making that for Breazeale, but he rejected a guaranteed $100 million on the basis that AJ might be getting more. :lol: That's not smart, it's cutting off your nose to spite your face. It's being so obsessed with "respect" that you reject more money than you've ever earned and might ever earn because another person might be getting more.

If he doesn't fight Fury or AJ, who will he line up against to generate $100 million over the next 3 fights? Because that deal was for 3 fucking fights. If he had beaten AJ in that 3 fight deal, it could have been wrapped up by the end of 2019 and he would be a free agent with $100 million in the bank and now in a position to demand more than 50% of any rematch with anyone.

If he lost, he'd still be $100 million better off. Plus, the DAZN deal INCLUDED the Breazeale bout. So technically he was being offered $33 million for Breazeale. What will he earn from it on Showtime? Because it's not on PPV. :lol: He will get about $9 million tops for it. What a genius bit of business. I'd fucking piss myself if Breazeale fluked a win.
 
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That is not smart on his part. He barely made more than $1 million in each fight he has had at world level. The one exception was the Fury fight, and I think he made about $12 million. He won't be making that for Breazeale, but he rejected a guaranteed $100 million on the basis that AJ might be getting more. :lol: That's not smart, it's cutting off your nose to spite your face. It's being so obsessed with "respect" that you reject more money than you've ever earned and might ever earn because another person might be getting more.

If he doesn't fight Fury or AJ, who will he line up against to generate $100 million over the next 3 fights? Because that deal was for 3 fucking fights. If he had beaten AJ in that 3 fight deal, it could have been wrapped up by the end of 2019 and he would be a free agent with $100 million in the bank and now in a position to demand more than 50% of any rematch with anyone.

If he lost, he'd still be $100 million better off. Plus, the DAZN deal INCLUDED the Breazeale bout. So technically he was being offered $33 million for Breazeale. What will he earn from it on Showtime? Because it's not on PPV. :lol: He will get about $9 million tops for it. What a genius bit of business. I'd fucking piss myself if Breazeale fluked a win.
I agree with you, but wasn't the $100m deal for five fights? One thing Wilder has going for him is that Fury has taken such a crappy fight that it's harder for people to point to Wilder and criticise his matchmaking. The Brezeale fight makes sense, it's a decent fight with a decent story, and much better than Schwarz. He's guaranteed a fortune anyway over the next couple of years, so I think he's just enjoying being the man and baiting AJ.
 
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I agree with you, but wasn't the $100m deal for five fights? One thing Wilder has going for him is that Fury has taken such a crappy fight that it's harder for people to point to Wilder and criticise his matchmaking. The Brezeale fight makes sense, it's a decent fight with a decent story, and much better than Schwarz. He's guaranteed a fortune anyway over the next couple of years, so I think he's just enjoying being the man and baiting AJ.
It was 3 from what I read. Some sources say 4 including Breazeale. He won't make a fraction of that over 3 or 4 fights without AJ or Fury. His next fight is back on regular TV...he will be lucky to make 9 million from that.
 
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I suspected that might have something to do with it. Every time total fight money projections come out the numbers get bigger.
Can't fault Wilder. People keep insisting he takes the latest offer, then the next offer increases. This may be by far the biguest pay day of Wilders career but it would also be AJs biggest purse. It takes 2 to tango.
I hope Wilder gets the 50/50 split he is after and deserves...
 
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Can't fault Wilder. People keep insisting he takes the latest offer, then the next offer increases. This may be by far the biguest pay day of Wilders career but it would also be AJs biggest purse. It takes 2 to tango.
I hope Wilder gets the 50/50 split he is after and deserves...
Yes, why not? Time this fight got made.
 
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If Wilder KO's Breazeale and then beats Fury they will give him 50/50, plus they are risking AJ getting a loss against Usyk who could win, they should just do 60/40 to the winner the cunts
 
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That is not smart on his part. He barely made more than $1 million in each fight he has had at world level. The one exception was the Fury fight, and I think he made about $12 million. He won't be making that for Breazeale, but he rejected a guaranteed $100 million on the basis that AJ might be getting more. :lol: That's not smart, it's cutting off your nose to spite your face. It's being so obsessed with "respect" that you reject more money than you've ever earned and might ever earn because another person might be getting more.

If he doesn't fight Fury or AJ, who will he line up against to generate $100 million over the next 3 fights? Because that deal was for 3 fucking fights. If he had beaten AJ in that 3 fight deal, it could have been wrapped up by the end of 2019 and he would be a free agent with $100 million in the bank and now in a position to demand more than 50% of any rematch with anyone.

If he lost, he'd still be $100 million better off. Plus, the DAZN deal INCLUDED the Breazeale bout. So technically he was being offered $33 million for Breazeale. What will he earn from it on Showtime? Because it's not on PPV. :lol: He will get about $9 million tops for it. What a genius bit of business. I'd fucking piss myself if Breazeale fluked a win.
He isnt confident of winning the fight. That is the only plausible reasoning for him turning down that much cash.
 
Jun 3, 2012
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He isnt confident of winning the fight. That is the only plausible reasoning for him turning down that much cash.
Exactly. It isn't as though the fights covered by this deal need be the last of his career. He could take this deal, win the fights covered by it, if he does that then he's likely the man with all the belts and can make the same again for his next string of fights. This only makes sense if he starts losing so has to maximise this deal before his stock falls again.