Post Fight Dillian Whyte’s reputation

Has Whytes stock in the division risen after KOing Chisora?


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You've already backtracked on this, does he have one punch power or not, or is it the 'pure' that's hurting your head? :lol:
Whyte has a similar level of one punch power to the vast majority of Heavyweights at this level I would say.

The claim was that Whyte did not have one punch KO power, I didn't see any claim that his power was particularly special or rare.
It was very clear to me that @Benny Blanco was perpetuating the idea that Whyte should be considered a notable puncher. But he's free to clarify his position.

You're right we don't describe most heavyweights as having pure KO power, mainly because they haven't demonstrated it on a decent level, or don't have the tools to ever land that power cleanly.
Would you object to me describing Chisora as having 'pure one knockout power' and suggesting he has a puncher's chance against any fighter in the world? He did spark Takam out after all, something that AJ was incapable of doing.

Neither of these things apply to Whyte, who dropped granite chinned Parker and recently KO'd Chisora clean with one punch. He should be considered a dangerous puncher because he has a signature shot that he knows how to land, and when it does land, people get hurt.
I don't think there's enough evidence to suggest Parker has a 'granite' chin. I think you've got a bit excited with that one, buddy.

I'll agree that Whyte can obviously punch and it's not beyond the realms of possibility that he could stop AJ, but it's such a small chance that it doesn't warrant much of a discussion.
 
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How does AJ landing a few shots on him qualifies him as granite chinned :lol:

Which punchers did he face as an amateur?

That's not what it means ya cretin. Ending a fight with one shot does not mean you now get described as having 'one shot KO power'. I've seen Malignaggi KO someone badly, do we now describe him as having one shot KO power......

Audley Harrison ended a fight with one shot. Anything could happen if he fights Joshua with that one shot KO power he has eh?

Here is modest hitting Michael Nunn sparking out never before stopped Kalambay with a single shot.
 
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Far be it from me to get involved in arguments over power punching heavyweights but I will just say that the way Joe Parkers head snapped from that hook is one of the sickest I've seen in a while it even tops Joshuas uppercut on Wlad (Ironically the same punch that did for Dillian)it looked like Parkers neck almost snapped, one of THOSE ones. I didn't see that fight live and I was still amazed he got up
 
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Far be it from me to get involved in arguments over power punching heavyweights but I will just say that the way Joe Parkers head snapped from that hook is one of the sickest I've seen in a while it even tops Joshuas uppercut on Wlad (Ironically the same punch that did for Dillian)it looked like Parkers neck almost snapped, one of THOSE ones. I didn't see that fight live and I was still amazed he got up
Good job Parker has that James Toney like granite chin that we all know about.

Whyte's one shot power vs Parker's granite chin is like an unstoppable force meeting an immovable object - my house shook when that left hook landed.
 
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Good job Parker has that James Toney like granite chin that we all know about.

Whyte's one shot power vs Parker's granite chin is like an unstoppable force meeting an immovable object - my house shook when that left hook landed.
Browne Sugar took James to school before Dillian horizoned him don't forget. It was a fuckin punch and a half though that Parker took
 

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AJ is considerably better. Yes, it would be a miracle.

I think Whyte's one punch power is being overstated to comical heights now. Nobody who goes life and death with Chisora twice has anything for AJ.
Whilst I agree is power is being a bit overstated, I think that's a bit harder in regards to the Chisora fight, a lot of that was tactical, well I believe so. He was looking to counter rather than being pushed back imo.
 
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Whyte's interviews always hit the mark, whilst AJ is trying to open up a bit more recently, his interviews are still dull, Whyte just seems like a right mischievous cunt and its great. :lol:

I'd have AJ favourite if they fought but would be hoping for the upset.
 
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How does AJ landing a few shots on him qualifies him as granite chinned :lol:

Which punchers did he face as an amateur?

That's not what it means ya cretin. Ending a fight with one shot does not mean you now get described as having 'one shot KO power'. I've seen Malignaggi KO someone badly, do we now describe him as having one shot KO power......

Audley Harrison ended a fight with one shot. Anything could happen if he fights Joshua with that one shot KO power he has eh?
How does his chin stand up against AJ, Wilder and Fury, the three top heavyweights at the moment? All three were badly hurt and knocked down as amateurs, and all of them have been hurt more in the pro game than Parker. I don't care whether it's granite, rock solid, whatever you like to call it, the terms are hardly quantifiable, the point is that his punch resistance is amongst the best in the world until proven otherwise.

Who 'ya' calling a cretin you virgin, slow down a bit you've some hidings on here recently :lol:

Your example is terrible. Whyte has proven himself as a puncher at the top level of the division, he has KO'd a very durable heavyweight cold and hurt several fighters who are considered top shelf. How many top welterweights or fighters with good chins did Malignaggi hurt?

Stop trying to tell people what stuff means, like when you tried to tell everyone Ortiz was ranked higher than Parker because you thought he could beat him head to head, you don't have a clue.

Audley was well known for having one punch KO power you clown, the rest of his attributes don't change that :lol:

Whyte's chances in the AJ fight are irrelevant, you stated confidently that he wasn't a one punch KO fighter, despite the blatant evidence suggesting otherwise. You've got zero counter argument other than 'that's not what it means'.

If you don't think the same shot that hit Chisora would have badly hurt both Wilder and AJ then you should probably stop watching the sport.
 
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Tfg making @strikeout of all the fcking rambling internet fckwits seem decisive and to the point, by comparison here
 
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Whyte has a similar level of one punch power to the vast majority of Heavyweights at this level I would say.



It was very clear to me that @Benny Blanco was perpetuating the idea that Whyte should be considered a notable puncher. But he's free to clarify his position.



Would you object to me describing Chisora as having 'pure one knockout power' and suggesting he has a puncher's chance against any fighter in the world? He did spark Takam out after all, something that AJ was incapable of doing.



I don't think there's enough evidence to suggest Parker has a 'granite' chin. I think you've got a bit excited with that one, buddy.

I'll agree that Whyte can obviously punch and it's not beyond the realms of possibility that he could stop AJ, but it's such a small chance that it doesn't warrant much of a discussion.
Unfortunately, the results don't support your position. The vast majority of heavyweights don't have the power to KO Chisora cold, something we know for a fact. The vast majority of heavyweights don't drop Parker. Most of them don't even hurt AJ, Povetkin and Parker didn't hurt him at all, Whyte did with one working shoulder.

Whyte is a notable puncher, yes. His power is more proven at the top level than anyone not named AJ or Wilder.

Chisora has shown that kind of power in one fight, if he continued to show consistent power like Whyte has, then yeah, no problem.

Call his chin whatever, it's still likely better than both AJ's and WIlder's.

You try to be like Strike too much when you talk boxing and be all logic and linear thinking, but it just means you miss out on nuance, which is why you struggle to talk about how different styles produces different results etc. Using your own logic, Joshua scraped by against Parker in a close decision, but Whyte beating him would be a 'miracle'? Doesn't make much sense in your game of top trumps mate.

What do you think happens if that same left hook from Whyte lands on AJ or Wilder, do you agree there's a good chance they go down in a similar way?
 
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Unfortunately, the results don't support your position. The vast majority of heavyweights don't have the power to KO Chisora cold, something we know for a fact. The vast majority of heavyweights don't drop Parker. Most of them don't even hurt AJ, Povetkin and Parker didn't hurt him at all, Whyte did with one working shoulder.

Whyte is a notable puncher, yes. His power is more proven at the top level than anyone not named AJ or Wilder.

Chisora has shown that kind of power in one fight, if he continued to show consistent power like Whyte has, then yeah, no problem.

Call his chin whatever, it's still likely better than both AJ's and WIlder's.

You try to be like Strike too much when you talk boxing and be all logic and linear thinking, but it just means you miss out on nuance, which is why you struggle to talk about how different styles produces different results etc. Using your own logic, Joshua scraped by against Parker in a close decision, but Whyte beating him would be a 'miracle'? Doesn't make much sense in your game of top trumps mate.

What do you think happens if that same left hook from Whyte lands on AJ or Wilder, do you agree there's a good chance they go down in a similar way?
Mate you and @strikeout should start up chess club or something
 
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How does his chin stand up against AJ, Wilder and Fury, the three top heavyweights at the moment? All three were badly hurt and knocked down as amateurs, and all of them have been hurt more in the pro game than Parker. I don't care whether it's granite, rock solid, whatever you like to call it, the terms are hardly quantifiable, the point is that his punch resistance is amongst the best in the world until proven otherwise.

Who 'ya' calling a cretin you virgin, slow down a bit you've some hidings on here recently :lol:

Your example is terrible. Whyte has proven himself as a puncher at the top level of the division, he has KO'd a very durable heavyweight cold and hurt several fighters who are considered top shelf. How many top welterweights or fighters with good chins did Malignaggi hurt?

Stop trying to tell people what stuff means, like when you tried to tell everyone Ortiz was ranked higher than Parker because you thought he could beat him head to head, you don't have a clue.

Audley was well known for having one punch KO power you clown, the rest of his attributes don't change that :lol:

Whyte's chances in the AJ fight are irrelevant, you stated confidently that he wasn't a one punch KO fighter, despite the blatant evidence suggesting otherwise. You've got zero counter argument other than 'that's not what it means'.

If you don't think the same shot that hit Chisora would have badly hurt both Wilder and AJ then you should probably stop watching the sport.
None of them have got granite chins, hence why I wouldn't embarrass myself by calling any of them granite chinned :lol: Do you need some examples of granite chinned fighters for example? Seeing Joseph Parker in the list next to them might be enlightening....

I was refuting the idea that a one punch KO now means someone has one punch power. That would be the most autistic way of looking at it.

Nobody can look at Whyte and think he has one punch power, because he simply doesn't. He's heavy handed and they may have an accumulative effect, but he's simply not a power puncher.

A win over Michael Sprott means you have one punch KO power :lol: Taking a few grazed shots from AJ means you have a granite chin :lol:

We've seen AJ take a flush left hook off Whyte, it stiffened his legs and then he proceeded to beat Whyte up.
 
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None of them have got granite chins, hence why I wouldn't embarrass myself by calling any of them granite chinned :lol: Do you need some examples of granite chinned fighters for example? Seeing Joseph Parker in the list next to them might be enlightening....

I was refuting the idea that a one punch KO now means someone has one punch power. That would be the most autistic way of looking at it.

Nobody can look at Whyte and think he has one punch power, because he simply doesn't. He's heavy handed and they may have an accumulative effect, but he's simply not a power puncher.

A win over Michael Sprott means you have one punch KO power :lol: Taking a few grazed shots from AJ means you have a granite chin :lol:

We've seen AJ take a flush left hook off Whyte, it stiffened his legs and then he proceeded to beat Whyte up.
I didn't ask whether you thought they had granite chins, I asked if you thought their chins were better or worse than Parker's. If not granite, what would you accept as a statement of chin, rock solid? just solid? What's the criteria here, I think you need to be more clear. What we do know is that compared to his opposition, he has at minimum a very good chin. Knocking someone down who doesn't get knocked down by anyone else, and is considered to have a very good chin is a good statement of power by Whyte.

Nobody can look at Whyte and think he has one punch power, because he simply doesn't. He's heavy handed and they may have an accumulative effect, but he's simply not a power puncher.
This is simply retarded, and there's no other word for it.

No one can look at Whyte and think he has one punch power... what about Chisora you fucking idiot? :lol:

He knows he has one punch power, as does Lucas Browne, they've both experienced it. No one else they fought hurt them as bad as that, which shouldn't be the case if Whyte isn't a power puncher. It makes complete sense that another fighter would look at Whyte and accept that he could turn their lights off with one shot.

'not a power puncher'

Retarded, again.

I'll take clean KO's over top ranked durable heavyweights thanks.

We've seen AJ take a flush left hook off Whyte, it stiffened his legs and then he proceeded to beat Whyte up
What about if he lands a better one next time, like the one he landed on Chisora, what happens then? The first one hurt him clearly, the second one could hurt him much worse. Does AJ have a better chin than Chisora? He'd have had to have had a chin transplant if you're telling me he simply gets buzzed by that same punch that leveled Chisora.

In the context of the Joshua fight, Whyte certainly is a power puncher, and trying to claim otherwise is just ignorant. Joshua has been hurt multiple times, Whyte has hurt him and KO'd two other top heavyweights cold, whilst knocking down Parker who had never been down before then. If Whyte lands his best shot, it could definitely KO Joshua, how likely you think he is of landing that shot is irrelevant.

So in short, you're wrong, again.
 
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Unfortunately, the results don't support your position. The vast majority of heavyweights don't have the power to KO Chisora cold, something we know for a fact. The vast majority of heavyweights don't drop Parker. Most of them don't even hurt AJ, Povetkin and Parker didn't hurt him at all, Whyte did with one working shoulder.
How many Heavyweights had 23 rounds to try and spark 2018 Chisora? I felt it necessary to note the year because I'm of the opinion that punch resistance regresses over time depending on the severity of damage inflicted. It's fair to say that Chisora of today probably doesn't take a shot as well as he did 7 years ago when David Haye waxed him for example.

Whyte is a notable puncher, yes. His power is more proven at the top level than anyone not named AJ or Wilder.
I wouldn't consider Whyte a notable puncher. The most significant displays of his power was against a weathered Chisora and knocking down supposedly granite chinned Parker. It's not substantial evidence all told. He's a respectable hitter, not a notable one. I guess we're in disagreement, buddy.

Joshua scraped by against Parker in a close decision, but Whyte beating him would be a 'miracle'?.
I thought Joshua won rather comfortably on the cards against Parker. If Parker had shown more ambition in that fight and taken more chances, the kind of chances we know Whyte would take, then he might not have seen the final bell. I suspect that might have been the reasoning for his timidness to begin with.

I'm going to backtrack again here and say a miracle would be going too far. Let's just say Joshua would be a heavy favourite and I would be absolutely shocked if he wasn't to win in a manner similar to the first fight, where Whyte was left flat on his back.

What do you think happens if that same left hook from Whyte lands on AJ or Wilder, do you agree there's a good chance they go down in a similar way?
To speculate on this wouldn't be interesting to be honest with you, buddy. I'm sure they'd feel it, put it that way. But I concede that he could conceivably knock out any other Heavyweight in the world. But so could Povetkin and I wouldn't call him a notable puncher either, even though he did spark Takam. AJ couldn't do it.
 
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How many Heavyweights had 23 rounds to try and spark 2018 Chisora? I felt it necessary to note the year because I'm of the opinion that punch resistance regresses over time depending on the severity of damage inflicted. It's fair to say that Chisora of today probably doesn't take a shot as well as he did 7 years ago when David Haye waxed him for example.



I wouldn't consider Whyte a notable puncher. The most significant displays of his power was against a weathered Chisora and knocking down supposedly granite chinned Parker. It's not substantial evidence all told. He's a respectable hitter, not a notable one. I guess we're in disagreement, buddy.



I thought Joshua won rather comfortably on the cards against Parker. If Parker had shown more ambition in that fight and taken more chances, the kind of chances we know Whyte would take, then he might not have seen the final bell. I suspect that might have been the reasoning for his timidness to begin with.

I'm going to backtrack again here and say a miracle would be going too far. Let's just say Joshua would be a heavy favourite and I would be absolutely shocked if he wasn't to win in a manner similar to the first fight, where Whyte was left flat on his back.



To speculate on this wouldn't be interesting to be honest with you, buddy. I'm sure they'd feel it, put it that way. But I concede that he could conceivably knock out any other Heavyweight in the world. But so could Povetkin and I wouldn't call him a notable puncher either, even though he did spark Takam. AJ couldn't do it.
That's one argument you could make, you could also say Chisora was in the best shape of his career, coming off the best win of his career in a grudge fight for him that obviously motivated him more than usual. I don't think Chisora at any point his career would have not gotten KO'd by that shot, Whyte just has that shot that fucks people up when it lands perfectly.

I wouldn't consider Whyte a notable puncher. The most significant displays of his power was against a weathered Chisora and knocking down supposedly granite chinned Parker. It's not substantial evidence all told. He's a respectable hitter, not a notable one. I guess we're in disagreement, buddy.
Well if we are talking historically, Whyte hasn't shown anything to be rated on any punching lists, but surely the only relevance here is the modern day, and his power relative to his division? He has proven he can KO top fighters with one shot, he knocked top down Parker which no one else could do. These are statements that put him ahead of the pack when it comes to punching power and ability to finish a fight.

He is most definitely a puncher in this heavyweight division. We agree he has the power to KO both Wilder and Joshua, and probably a better chance than anybody else, so he can't not be a notable puncher. Whyte has a better chance of KOing Wilder than Parker or Ortiz because he has a better KO punch.
 
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That's one argument you could make, you could also say Chisora was in the best shape of his career, coming off the best win of his career in a grudge fight for him that obviously motivated him more than usual. I don't think Chisora at any point his career would have not gotten KO'd by that shot, Whyte just has that shot that fucks people up when it lands perfectly.
Well that's why talking boxing can be so frustrating sometimes, you can tailor any argument to suit your agenda. You say Chisora was in the best shape of his career, I could say that was merely aesthetics. You say he was coming off the best win of his career, I could remind you that he was losing virtually every single minute of the fight against Takam before lightning struck. But I'll be sincere -- I think that was a great version of Chisora that showed up against Whyte. Maybe that left hook might have finished Chisora at any stage of his career, I simply don't know. We're speculating. It was a fantastic shot, it was an impressive stoppage.

Well if we are talking historically, Whyte hasn't shown anything to be rated on any punching lists, but surely the only relevance here is the modern day, and his power relative to his division? He has proven he can KO top fighters with one shot, he knocked top down Parker which no one else could do. These are statements that put him ahead of the pack when it comes to punching power and ability to finish a fight.
I guess all of the above is true. Whyte in his last three fights has scored two one punch knockouts and a heavy knockdown against Parker. Now whilst I'm far from convinced that Parker has a 'granite chin' as you put it, it should be said that there have been no vulnerabilities where his punch resistance is concerned, not before and not since. But it's something of a strange turn of events isn't it? It's not until recently that he's started to consistently show world level punching power. I know he hurt AJ, but I chalked that down as a bit of luck with him swinging wildly in desperation off the ropes.

He is most definitely a puncher in this heavyweight division. We agree he has the power to KO both Wilder and Joshua, and probably a better chance than anybody else, so he can't not be a notable puncher. Whyte has a better chance of KOing Wilder than Parker or Ortiz because he has a better KO punch.
I know the stoppages started to dry up for Parker once he stepped up his level of competition but I don't think that has exposed his lack of punching power as much as his lack of ambition. I've never seen a fighter so content with losing in all my life. This is a guy that sports a very impressive KO ratio and who almost had Whyte out of there very late on in their fight, but he simply doesn't do enough round-to-round. At least that's my takeaway from the AJ and Whyte fights. Fights just seem to pass him by and then during the post fight interview he's all smiles. That's why it's hard to assess him in terms of punching power. He isn't landing much.
 
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Maybe underrated but I think Parker possibly beats him now. Not getting any younger himself. If he carries on long enough hell get beat by a young gun. Somebody like Yoka. He won't come to the UK to fight AJ,dont think so anyway. Like to be proved wrong. Rather have Miller at the end of the year but AJ/Pulev is a decent fight
I think he will, that’s got to be Pulev’s end game, a mandatory shot at Joshua & a multi-million pound pay day & then probably retire
 
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I forgot to say that by extension it DID raise Whyte stock also. He fought and beat a fighter that everybody knew would give him a fight when he didn't need to to get the April date.
You’re talking as if he was rewarding us all with the Chisora fight.

He took it because we’re the only country in the world that has enough fans gullible enough to pay for a PPV with him & Chisora who'd had 8 losses.

He didn’t do it out of the good of his heart he did it because he could earn mega money fighting someone well past his best who’d already had 8 losses on his record
 
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You’re talking as if he was rewarding us all with the Chisora fight.

He took it because we’re the only country in the world that has enough fans gullible enough to pay for a PPV with him & Chisora who'd had 8 losses.

He didn’t do it out of the good of his heart he did it because he could earn mega money fighting someone well past his best who’d already had 8 losses on his record
In a way you are preaching to the converted mate. I said previous to the fight that Chisora was past it, that like a few more this "new broom" stuff was rubbish and also that he would probably get knocked out.
BUT he had a good, unexpected win in his last fight, there was plenty of publicity about him being a "new Derek" and he gave Whyte a fight last time out to the extent a lot, but not methought he had won. Whyte could have sat on his previous wins and took a MUCH lesser opponent than Chisora,for example the lad that TAKAM beat,or even a TTEE.
I can't see as what I said sounds like he was rewarding us, no way. Just that he didn't have to fight a still tough opponent. Nobody was screaming mismatch. Some were tipping Chisora even.
 
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I think he will, that’s got to be Pulev’s end game, a mandatory shot at Joshua & a multi-million pound pay day & then probably retire
I hipe you're right and Im wrong. He's done pretty well in his last few fights. But I think he absolutely HAS to come here. He's a tough enough opponent for Hearn to demand home advantage.