DISCUSSION: Is the Social Media age hurting/destroying the likes of Frank Warren in Sports?

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Its a big problem if you ask me, because its changed a lot in any sport for that matter. Not just boxing. People are no longer in control of the sort of things they used to be in years ago. If you dont get with the times, you get left behind as they say. Will people who refuse to get on the social media bandwagon get left behind? Or can they survive alright without it? We see promoters like Eddie Hearn embracing it and using it, which has done a lot for his image and rapid growth as a new promoter.

Since social media has become more and more popular it seems as if the "old age" or unpopular people, are coming under more and more criticism and they really cant seem to do a lot about it other than empty legal threats. Its not just one or two people anymore, its hundreds and maybe even thousands jumping on the bandwagon. You cant stop that many people, you cant stop what people are talking about online.

Promoters and people involved in sport like Frank Warren, may well have been around the block, but this social media age is completely new to everyone, it had never been around before when it exploded a few years ago now, and its leaving people who dont get on board with it, wide open.

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I think social media is on the downturn to be honest, people are starting to get turned off by endless adverts, privacy invasion etc.

Obviously its a great tool but I honestly think it has peaked.
 
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I think social media is on the downturn to be honest, people are starting to get turned off by endless adverts, privacy invasion etc.

Obviously its a great tool but I honestly think it has peaked.

Same here mate. I don't use any of it because I know where its come from. Sooner or later Social Media users will be calling for the very thing they dont want, internet policing. They've sold themselves down the river and its to late to go back now.
 
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I think social media is on the downturn to be honest, people are starting to get turned off by endless adverts, privacy invasion etc.

Obviously its a great tool but I honestly think it has peaked.
Thats a 1% digression from a 1,000,000% jump.
 
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Thats a 1% digression from a 1,000,000% jump.
yeah but its only the start of the changes that will take hold, adverts are gonna continue to multiply, fees are going to continue to come in, there's going to be more shit around privacy invasion and bullying and law suits etc.
 
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yeah but its only the start of the changes that will take hold, adverts are gonna continue to multiply, fees are going to continue to come in, there's going to be more shit around privacy invasion and bullying and law suits etc.
Sorry mate thats more wishful thinking. The Internet & Social networking is ingrained in our culture and is here to stay.
 
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Sorry mate thats more wishful thinking. The Internet & Social networking is ingrained in our culture and is here to stay.
It all depends, I see lots of business' sacking it off now that they limit the reach of posters you can get to, constantly asking for money for various reasons etc. I'm not saying its going away but unless they go back on themselves then as a business tool its probably already had its best years. The amount of idiots on them now make them hardly worth using depending on what your business is.
 
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I 100% agree.

Its a sorry state of affairs. For every one against it, there are a million zombies for it.
speaking of Zombies. Saw World War Z last night. Genuinely one of the best films I have ever seen.

In response to your initial question....I do think Frank Warren struggles with a the media is more disjointed and the fans can voice there opinions and disgruntlement. Something like the Vasquez situation would not have played out the way it did without the internet.

The guy at Frank Warren Promotions thats in control of social networking and online marketing is a good guy and he does a good job, but Frank and allot of his employees are old school and fuck it all up.
 
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It all depends, I see lots of business' sacking it off now that they limit the reach of posters you can get to, constantly asking for money for various reasons etc. I'm not saying its going away but unless they go back on themselves then as a business tool its probably already had its best years. The amount of idiots on them now make them hardly worth using depending on what your business is.
What businesses have switched of there Facebook and Twitter accounts?

Not to get all uppity. I work in sales & marketing, I have an Economics degree, I have run my own business. Where are you coming from with this opinion?
 
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I knew the moment it exploded that they would turn twitta into an advertising and marketing tool.

Which they have. Its a money maker, its just a shame that people genuinely think they are interacting with their heroes.

Half the time its their agent, PR manager or social media manager. :lol:
 
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I knew the moment it exploded that they would turn twitta into an advertising and marketing tool.

Which they have. Its a money maker, its just a shame that people genuinely think they are interacting with their heroes.

Half the time its their agent, PR manager or social media manager. :lol:
Actually the beauty of twitter is that more often that not its the actual person thats in control of the page.
 
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What businesses have switched of there Facebook and Twitter accounts?

Not to get all uppity. I work in sales & marketing, I have an Economics degree, I have run my own business. Where are you coming from with this opinion?
It depends who you work with, sure huge brands will use it but a lot of local or smaller business' are better of using the good old methods of finding a customer base from word of mouth, good reputation etc. They just aren't going to pay to put adverts out etc or waste there time on it if they are getting nothing back because they are limited to their reach output unless they pay.

Getting back to the OP though, again for some things the word of mouth that spreads can be bad news but its getting to the point whereby people listen less to what goes on due to the amount of disinformation on the internet.

I mean when someone dies now, no one is willing to listen until its announced by a reputable newsource (and Twitter/Facebook aren't reputable news sources). I mean look at Manny Stewards death, you had guys who work closely with him saying it and people still weren't buying into it because they've been duped that many times before.

Social Media is gonna change drastically in the next few years and its all gonna be monetized in different ways and i suspect that's gonna lead to a few have financial problems (how much was Facebook bought for?).

It's just not viable for them to work after multi-million/billion dollar buyouts without charging and that will put loads of people off imo.
 

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If Twitter was kept confined to Twitter, then I can see how not being on it could result in being left behind when it comes to having your finger on the pulse.

However, you don't need to be on Twitter to be kept up to date with what's being Tweeted. We see newspapers reporting who Tweeted what, and now even TV presenters sit there staring into their phones just so they can announce some twat Tweeted some boloocks about hash tagging this and that.

Half the threads on the other, dead, boxing forum were about what just got Tweeted, yet most of it was just inflamatory rubbish. Social media really just seems to be a way of spreading bullshit and nasty rumours rather than a vital business tool.
 
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Primadonna Kool

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You have casual fans that have no clue or real passion about the sport, having a distorted view on the sport.

There's allot of hatred for Frank Warren from casual fans, and the funny thing is..? they don't actually know why.

I don't think social media is destroying Frank Warren but..? it's not destroying anybody.

But...? its building a distorted view of certain people.
 
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It depends who you work with, sure huge brands will use it but a lot of local or smaller business' are better of using the good old methods of finding a customer base from word of mouth, good reputation etc. They just aren't going to pay to put adverts out etc or waste there time on it if they are getting nothing back because they are limited to their reach output unless they pay.

Getting back to the OP though, again for some things the word of mouth that spreads can be bad news but its getting to the point whereby people listen less to what goes on due to the amount of disinformation on the internet.

I mean when someone dies now, no one is willing to listen until its announced by a reputable newsource (and Twitter/Facebook aren't reputable news sources). I mean look at Manny Stewards death, you had guys who work closely with him saying it and people still weren't buying into it because they've been duped that many times before.

Social Media is gonna change drastically in the next few years and its all gonna be monetized in different ways and i suspect that's gonna lead to a few have financial problems (how much was Facebook bought for?).

It's just not viable for them to work after multi-million/billion dollar buyouts without charging and that will put loads of people off imo.
again where is this opinion coming from?
 
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You have casual fans that have no clue or real passion about the sport, having a distorted view on the sport.

There's allot of hatred for Frank Warren from casual fans, and the funny thing is..? they don't actually know why.

I don't think social media is destroying Frank Warren but..? it's not destroying anybody.

But...? its building a distorted view of certain people.
that hate for frank warren is pruely from hardcore fans.