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Do you lose your bottle a bit as you get older?

#21
Some of the things people are mentioning here do have an impact...but mainly the changes in young men come down to two things. Testosterone and cognitive development.

At 16-22, the brain is not fully formed in males. Myelin has not finished being layered onto neurons and the last part of the brain to be fully connected is the prefrontal cortex, which controls decision making and processing consequence etc. Quite simply, teenage boys and young men are using different parts of their brains more for certain decisions and actions, and with certain split decision choices they are wired to be more reckless.

Then add in higher testosterone which is the precursor to aggressive behaviour. You really do mellow with age, and you use your brain differently. If you add in a deeper grasp of mortality, not feeling that old age is so far away etc, it adds to this by making you more appreciative of life.

But overall, it's just testosterone and myelin that are the two most key factors.
 

Raging B(_)LL

Come at me bro....
#22
I’ve certainly mellowed with age, by a large margin, and at this point in my life I am smart enough to avoid putting myself in potentially dangerous situations unlike in my youth.

However, with that said, when I’m behind the wheel driving and dealing with either dangerous or indecisive drivers I can turn homicidal in a heartbeat and my inner shadow rises to the surface in record time, and lord knows I’ve lost my shit more than once in certain situations (no violent road rage incidents, just yelling like a lunatic at shit for brains drivers).

I’m not proud of it and often catch myself losing my cool and telling myself to calm down and just let it be, but I swear some people simply should not be allowed to drive, ever, under any circumstances whatsoever.

The one thing that makes me furious as hell is slow drivers in the passing lane, I swear if I had dictatorial powers I’d have those people pulled over and shot on the spot, and I do mean on the fucking spot.

You wanna drive slow as molasses and be a Sunday driver fine, no problem with that whatsoever, but do so in the slow poke lane and get the fuck outta my way because I, unlike you, am in a hurry to get home or to my destination.

So get the fuck outta my way:mad

Other than that, I’m a pretty laid back and easy going guy overall:lol:
 

rjjfan

The Greatest
#26
One of guys I trained with was a 6'4 250+lbs police officer who smashed his knee trying to take down a perp. He was forced into disability and early retirement. He was one of the few blue belts I've seen give some of the big name grapplers a hard time on the mats.

We all like to think "Yeah I'll take you and your mates out no worries" but we're all a smashed knee away from disability and worse.
 
#27
Dont think its as much as losing your bottle,more just a progressive maturing and wisening up a bit.

When younger,especially forces days there was little fear and but even then i usually tried to think things through before going balls deep.

Without a doubt now though if i see any signs at all of drama ill screw the nut and take the diplomatic route although still ready to jump if need be.Lucky to have pals who are all decent and have non that go out of their way to make a night out hard which makes life easier.

Just back from my stagger in Prague and even though seshed non stop was always primed to a certain degree but not saying would have been fit to see anything off.

Used to fight too much when younger and never backed down and even though part of the head says i still could reality would probably be way different and im not for taking that chance unless i need to now.

Any conviction and all firearms would be taken away which would be a huge loss to me and couldnt imagine how i would fill the void.
 

Benny Blanco

Give a donkey a carrot
#28
Some of the things people are mentioning here do have an impact...but mainly the changes in young men come down to two things. Testosterone and cognitive development.

At 16-22, the brain is not fully formed in males. Myelin has not finished being layered onto neurons and the last part of the brain to be fully connected is the prefrontal cortex, which controls decision making and processing consequence etc. Quite simply, teenage boys and young men are using different parts of their brains more for certain decisions and actions, and with certain split decision choices they are wired to be more reckless.

Then add in higher testosterone which is the precursor to aggressive behaviour. You really do mellow with age, and you use your brain differently. If you add in a deeper grasp of mortality, not feeling that old age is so far away etc, it adds to this by making you more appreciative of life.

But overall, it's just testosterone and myelin that are the two most key factors.
I’m not entirely convinced about testosterone having the effect on anger and aggression it’s made out to have I think it’s more of an emotional thing / character defect

Most people I know who are very angry are generally carrying some baggage from child hood as opposed to being testosterone filled
 
#29
I’m not entirely convinced about testosterone having the effect on anger and aggression it’s made out to have I think it’s more of an emotional thing / character defect

Most people I know who are very angry are generally carrying some baggage from child hood as opposed to being testosterone filled
Well you're comparing people with extra issues to people without. But the reality is that testosterone is proven to increase aggression and recklessness. You would also have to have had those friends test levels tested and compared to the average or compared to men who are very placid to even make a case for it not being a factor. It is why women commit very few violent crimes, but are still perfectly capable of being as angry and upset as men.

Anger and aggression are not the same thing. There's a lot of data on testosterone and a causal link with aggression.
 

Dazl1212

Unapologetic straight white male.
#30
With me it seems to have gone the other way, I was soft as shit until I hit my 20s partly because I was small and had diagnosed anxiety issues. Then I went full psycho in my early 20s until the issues with the anxiety shit were semi resolved. I'm pretty good now but still nowhere near as soft as I was.
 
#31
Fighting on the streets is a load of bollocks. Ever notice other people's reactions after they witness a fight on the town. Nobody ever says look at that fucking legend over there or gives any praise for it. Sometimes you fucking have to fight though, no two ways about it.

The thing is though at least from what I've seen it's rarely ever finished. You beat one bloke and you can expect to have 5 or 6 cunts on the lookout to give you a kicking.
Yeah I can’t be arsed with it at all anymore. I’m 31 and don’t go out round town much anymore, but decided to venture out a few weeks back.
I was stood in this bar minding my own business when some prick came and stuck the head on me for fuck all, then the bouncers decided to throw me out.
Proper cheap shot with no warning, I don’t even know who he was or what it was for although someone had said he was arguing with a mate of mine or something.
Luckily it was under the chin as he was a bit shorter than me so I didn’t have any permanent injury or missing teeth, but it just made me think what’s the point?
 

AntG

Scaredy Bat
#32
Yeah I can’t be arsed with it at all anymore. I’m 31 and don’t go out round town much anymore, but decided to venture out a few weeks back.
I was stood in this bar minding my own business when some prick came and stuck the head on me for fuck all, then the bouncers decided to throw me out.
Proper cheap shot with no warning, I don’t even know who he was or what it was for although someone had said he was arguing with a mate of mine or something.
Luckily it was under the chin as he was a bit shorter than me so I didn’t have any permanent injury or missing teeth, but it just made me think what’s the point?
Dickheads mate, loads of my mates were similar back in the day, it's an ego, cock of the walk, this my patch sort of thing. I remember quite vividly Christmas Eve about 10 years ago we were in my then local and this couple of lads came in with their birds, seemed to me like alright lads just enjoying a night out but one of my mates took the hump with them being in "his" boozer, kept telling the rest of us he was going to spark one of the lads, I'm trying to calm him down as he's there shouting at them "you think you're more of a man than me do ya?"

In the end these people left and a couple of us were apologising for his behaviour but this twat probably ruined their night, I've not seen him in about 5 years but apparently he's still at it, seem his forte is if he sees a a lad with a bird he likes the look of he kicks off on the lad to show her he's "more of a man" hopefully one day he'll kick off on a lad who'll hand him his arse.
 
#33
Dickheads mate, loads of my mates were similar back in the day, it's an ego, cock of the walk, this my patch sort of thing. I remember quite vividly Christmas Eve about 10 years ago we were in my then local and this couple of lads came in with their birds, seemed to me like alright lads just enjoying a night out but one of my mates took the hump with them being in "his" boozer, kept telling the rest of us he was going to spark one of the lads, I'm trying to calm him down as he's there shouting at them "you think you're more of a man than me do ya?"

In the end these people left and a couple of us were apologising for his behaviour but this twat probably ruined their night, I've not seen him in about 5 years but apparently he's still at it, seem his forte is if he sees a a lad with a bird he likes the look of he kicks off on the lad to show her he's "more of a man" hopefully one day he'll kick off on a lad who'll hand him his arse.
Yeah it’s so pointless, if I’d been trying to get fired into his bird or something then fair enough but I didn’t even say a single thing to him.

As for losing my bottle, I definitely have when it comes to certain things like if I go for a run I’m terrified of falling down rough terrain where as I would’ve legged it when I was younger. But then I’m happy to absolutely hammer my bike at stupid mph.
 
#34
Yeah I can’t be arsed with it at all anymore. I’m 31 and don’t go out round town much anymore, but decided to venture out a few weeks back.
I was stood in this bar minding my own business when some prick came and stuck the head on me for fuck all, then the bouncers decided to throw me out.
Proper cheap shot with no warning, I don’t even know who he was or what it was for although someone had said he was arguing with a mate of mine or something.
Luckily it was under the chin as he was a bit shorter than me so I didn’t have any permanent injury or missing teeth, but it just made me think what’s the point?
Every town, village in every country is full of utter wankers like that. I'll never understand people that go on nights out to get into some sort of argument or scrap. Hearing stuff like what happened to you or some innocent lad getting jumped by a gang of cunts makes my blood boil. What kind of sane person full of drink or not thinks it's great to start fighting for no reason.
 
#35
You become wiser, or at least you should. You realise that there's younger persons out there who would kick your ass. I presume you're talking about avoiding physical altercations? Some people are definitely wired differently and just want a fight wherever, whenever and with whomever. It's definitely not smart to think you can take on the world or you're invincible. As I've matured I realise that life can be taken from you in an instant, you don't know what is around the corner so why needlessly get into fights or altercations which I could easily resolve by talking myself out of or ignoring certain situations entirely.
 

Dazl1212

Unapologetic straight white male.
#36
Every town, village in every country is full of utter wankers like that. I'll never understand people that go on nights out to get into some sort of argument or scrap. Hearing stuff like what happened to you or some innocent lad getting jumped by a gang of cunts makes my blood boil. What kind of sane person full of drink or not thinks it's great to start fighting for no reason.
Far too many people. The prevalence of cocaine and steroids these days probably plays a part as well. Every gangster of their own back yard is on it these days.
 
#37
I am 78 now and could not fight my way out of a paper bag.WhenI was about sixteen it was a different matter. I was always fighting, mostly at week-ends when gangs from the local area came to our area to "sort" us out. I was never involved in anything other than fist fights, no bottles, knives etc, once you went down the fight was over. Also got quite a few Knocks off the "Old Bill", they would not '"nick you"but you made sure that you kept out of their way. Things changed when I moved to London in 1960, in Kilburn I was "nutted, clubbed, bottled and kicked , but soon learned how to fight back.. The last big punch up I had was in the lateeighties. I had a pub in North London and the local villains tried to get in on New Years Eve after closing time, an almighty punch up started and as a result I never had any more problems . Lets face it, fighting outside the ring is a mugs game, luckily , apart from a few bruises and a couple of broken ribs I have got off quite lightly. Regards Mervyn The Gee
Kilburn always was and still is a bit lively,except times have changed slightly,for the worse the days of 'straightners' have long since gone now knives and guns are the weapons of choice.Razors were used back in the day and bottles and pint pots...which I will get to.

In my younger days had a few tear ups myself and remember one Sunday afternoon in Cricklewood early 90's,which descended into a scene from the wild west chairs,tables,bottles flying everywhere it was a christening I attended and it all kicked off over a game of pool :rolleyes :bat words between two groups and hey presto.It wasn't a quick flare up it went on for a good while until ARMED police arrived,nasty not many left standing without injury.Many arrested as well if you didn't defend yourself that afternoon you would of got hurt,it was carnage.

A year or two after another Sunday strangely,I remember seeing two middle aged men fighting in a beer garden, one glassed the other with the old type of heavy pint glass Mervyn and a few will know what I mean,it was nasty,deep wound/wounds claret everywhere,lumpy clots of blood and a man prone.Then to finish the job an ashtray smashed over the mans head,again to explain to younger posters,they used to be very heavy porcelain.I am not squeamish in the least but the sight turned my stomach.

Nowadays it's different level and just having a straightner,fists only a thing of the past and I have seen fellas fight and then have a pint after no comebacks over a disagreement it did used to happen.

Easy to say if you can walk away,it changes lives and if you hit someone and they don't recover prison will give anyone with a conscience time to reflect on a mistake that will change your life for the worse,easy of course said sitting here as a middle aged man.
 

Squire

Let's Go Champ
#39
The one thing that makes me furious as hell is slow drivers in the passing lane, I swear if I had dictatorial powers I’d have those people pulled over and shot on the spot, and I do mean on the fucking spot.
I think the fact that you'd shoot them for driving slowly is more important than exactly when it happens :lol:

I know what you mean though
 
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