Do ypu think George Groves suffered from having large testicles?

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Always picked the hardest world title routes.

In hindsight the first Froch fight was a bad idea as there were many softer champions.

After the Wembley rematch he should of taken a good 8 months out and went down the WBO route.

He could of likely boxed a past it Abraham in London in what would of been a easy fight, even for the Paddy Fitzpatrick version of Groves.

When he won his World title he should never of entered the tournament he could of made the Eubank fight regardless of the WBSS and then took the Degale Unification this summer.

The Froch fights have come back to bite him on the arse it seems. He could of now been a WBO, WBA and a IBF champion.

He probably could of been in Fieldings place and fought Canelo in a much bigger fight and probably sailed off into the sunset with more doe.

It will always be a tale of what could of been when it comes to the Saint for me.
 
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Large huevos + B+ Ability - Mental Discipline - PEDs = George Groves.
 

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He had to take the Froch rematch due to the money on offer.
 
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Don't really agree with the OP, but I kind of see where your coming from. I think it's a great thing that he's had the ambition to chase bigger fights and challenges rather than going down the path of least resistance like the majority. He's had massive self belief so obviously wouldn't have gone into these fights thinking he couldn't win, but sometimes maybe having a little more awareness of other possibilities could have got him a bit more cash or possibly another title.

As you've said he didn't really need the WBSS because he could have made mega money outside of it and possibly picked up multiple world titles. But again credit to him for wanting to enter a competition in which he had the most to lose but with the ambition to face some of the best.

I do think both him and degale fucked up though by not having their rematch 18 months or so ago as it's similar to the khan and brook fight now in that it's lost pretty much all meaning and they are both clearly not as good as they once were. Another British rivalry and potentially great fights down the pan.
 
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He could've made it easier for himself but I'm not going to advocate fighters taking the soft route. He gave us some great fights.
 
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Again people not actually listening to what I am saying.

I have made a appreciation thread about GG in the past, praising him for always choosing the most difficult option.

All I am asking is if he had gone down the same route as fighters like Brook and Warrington, would our view on his career be very different?
 
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Again people not actually listening to what I am saying.

I have made a appreciation thread about GG in the past, praising him for always choosing the most difficult option.

All I am asking is if he had gone down the same route as fighters like Brook and Warrington, would our view on his career be very different?
Kell Brook has wasted his career. If Groves had taken a similar path then he'd be less well thought of.

Warrington has played it perfectly tbf. I'd argue he has less natural talent than Groves, nor did he have a domestic rival at the very top of the sport who it was tempting to fight so it was easier for him to take his time. hard to compare.
 
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Again people not actually listening to what I am saying.

I have made a appreciation thread about GG in the past, praising him for always choosing the most difficult option.

All I am asking is if he had gone down the same route as fighters like Brook and Warrington, would our view on his career be very different?
Southpaw Counter you have every right to ask, and you are right I think. But those who point out his earnings are also right. Personally I think he got the Froch fight too early, excelled himself in the first fight but then suffered a devastating knockout ion the second, which he was never going to win. Bit of a coincidence here because I said in the Mervyn thread that I was amazed at how he recovered and came back from that. That,and the hard fights he had since, will almost certainly have not have done him a lot of good. He still seems to have all his marbles, but as somebody who always liked him, more than I did any of his opponents with the possible exception of Callum, Id like to see him retire before he DOES get scrambled.
 
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Also Warringtons career is not over yet, though I think Brooks is. I don't think hell surpass Georges career but after the last win and a few more good ones hopefully, he might equal it. Depends how often he fights and who he beats, or loses to.
 
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Again people not actually listening to what I am saying.

I have made a appreciation thread about GG in the past, praising him for always choosing the most difficult option.

All I am asking is if he had gone down the same route as fighters like Brook and Warrington, would our view on his career be very different?
To answer your question mate,Id say if he HADNT taken the FRoch fight, waited a couple or 3 years and THEN fought him, he might even have beaten him. But its the money isn't it??
 

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To answer your question mate,Id say if he HADNT taken the FRoch fight, waited a couple or 3 years and THEN fought him, he might even have beaten him. But its the money isn't it??
Nah, George was never going to beat The Cobra. He hit him with a KO punch in the opening round of their first contest and still managed to lose. He was never winning that fight.
 
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When was he ever truly outclassed by an opponent though? It's not like, even in his losses against Froch, Jack and Smith, he was ever out of his depth.

So he had the ability to match his balls. A lot of fighters probably know they don't have the ability so don't take the risks Groves did. So therefore, to answer the question, I don't think his balls were too big. I think he should willingness, ambition and self belief beyond what we're used to seeing.
 
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Again people not actually listening to what I am saying.

I have made a appreciation thread about GG in the past, praising him for always choosing the most difficult option.

All I am asking is if he had gone down the same route as fighters like Brook and Warrington, would our view on his career be very different?
How the hell has Warrington had an easy route? You really have something against him don’t you. He’s won everything at domestic beat a solid European champion, fought some solid international opposition and then beat selby for the title. He did it the traditional way, the way it should be done.
 
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How the hell has Warrington had an easy route? You really have something against him don’t you. He’s won everything at domestic beat a solid European champion, fought some solid international opposition and then beat selby for the title. He did it the traditional way, the way it should be done.
Why on earth would I have something against a working class lad living the dream?

However, his route to a world title wasn't the hardest, many believe he lost to Martinez and Dennis Ceylan had already been beaten by Walsh and would of lost to Lowe.

Groves beat Degale and Johnson on the way to Froch, Rebrasse to get the Jack fight and then Murray and Eddie the Eagle to secure Chudinov.

Stop having a hissy fit because I'm entering into a discussion.
 
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Why would you use him as an example as some who hasn’t really earned his position or status then? Him and Kell Brook how are they similar?
 
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Always picked the hardest world title routes.

In hindsight the first Froch fight was a bad idea as there were many softer champions.

After the Wembley rematch he should of taken a good 8 months out and went down the WBO route.

He could of likely boxed a past it Abraham in London in what would of been a easy fight, even for the Paddy Fitzpatrick version of Groves.

When he won his World title he should never of entered the tournament he could of made the Eubank fight regardless of the WBSS and then took the Degale Unification this summer.

The Froch fights have come back to bite him on the arse it seems. He could of now been a WBO, WBA and a IBF champion.

He probably could of been in Fieldings place and fought Canelo in a much bigger fight and probably sailed off into the sunset with more doe.

It will always be a tale of what could of been when it comes to the Saint for me.
Always wanted to fight the best, probably won't be remembered 3 years from now but, hard bastard who you have to take your hat off to. Always give 100%