Does Anybody Actually Favor Wilder vs. AJ?

FloydPatterson

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I do.

Joshua was gunshy against Parker IMO, although that was more thanks to Parkers jab and boxing ability but still.

The fear of the vaunted Wilder power will always prevent Joshua from stepping in to take risks.

I think Deontay will KO joshua 100%
 
Jun 4, 2013
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I came back to say exactly this.
I see a lot of fair reasoning why this fight is dangerous for Wilder as it is for AJ, and I can agree.
Wilder is a total animal and has great power which can create trouble for literally anyone in the ring with him.
But the question was whether you favor him over AJ, which I don’t. I don’t see how anyone would except his team and his momma.
And @bbalchump
I thought I answered the question in the opening post. I favor AJ but Wilder has a legit chance.
 

turbotime

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Wilder is lighter and longer so he can dance and box about if he really wants to, Joshua is a tad stuck in the mud but has excellent fundamentals. Both have fight changing power. I really can't pick a winner, just glad it's going down.
 

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I give Wilder a better chance the more I see these negotiations play out. Joshua is clearly unsettled by Wilder, and that may well manifest should he ever step into the ring with him.
 

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Winky Wright

Wright is not ruling out the possibility of a Joshua win - but he's backing Wilder to win - and he believes there are certain attributes that give Wilder the edge to win.

"I think both fighters are good fighters, I just think Wilder is a little bit more athletic, a little bit more elusive. That right hand is dangerous, he just can’t depend on that right hand all the time, he’s got to get in there and mix it up. Joshua can mix it up and he’s a big boy with a good punch himself, but I definitely like Wilder," Wright told On The Ropes Boxing Radio.

And Wright is not expecting the contest to go the distance.

Both boxers have been hurt in the past, and both were able to recover to secure the knockout win.

"I don’t think [it goes the distance], unless one of them gets hurt and runs, which I don’t see. I don’t see Wilder doing it and I don’t see Joshua doing it, especially after he fought Klitschko. He got hurt, got up, moved around a little bit and then went back in throwing his bombs. We know both fighters can be hurt, we know both fighters have the will to come back and win. Now we just need to see both fighters get in there and prove who is the best," Wright said.
 
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Wilder has terrible fundamentals, is easy to hit and does nothing for large portions of fights before throwing his right hand. He clearly has devastating power but he isn't even banging guys out early in the fight since he won the WBC.

What is he going to do differently against a vastly superior fighter before he gets knocked out himself?
 

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To me, Deontay Wilder is a very flawed fighter who makes amateurish mistakes that have not been fixed. His hands are way too far away from his chin to be of any use on defense, he routinely sets his feet too wide, and he throws wide, looping punches.

He's gotten away with these mistakes, IMO, largely due to his lack of opposition. Luis Ortiz was hardly in top form and able to exploit the hand placement repeatedly.

I just see AJ as not only the better athlete, the bigger, stronger guy, but also the drastically better ring technician. I don't think this will be much of a fight.

You?
I think the flawed fighter throwing all these round punches with bad technique is a thing of the past. Wilder has shown in his last 3 or 4 fights that he can be patient and punch with accuracy. His right hand is straight and fast. I think Wilder has now peaked and is ready for everybody... and he can knock anybody out... least of which is Joshua, who showed that his chin can be vulnerable against Klitschko.

Yes, at this point in time, I favor Wilder to KO Joshua.
 

JeffJoiner

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I think the flawed fighter throwing all these round punches with bad technique is a thing of the past. Wilder has shown in his last 3 or 4 fights that he can be patient and punch with accuracy. His right hand is straight and fast. I think Wilder has now peaked and is ready for everybody... and he can knock anybody out... least of which is Joshua, who showed that his chin can be vulnerable against Klitschko.

Yes, at this point in time, I favor Wilder to KO Joshua.
Ortiz was able to land big shots around Wilder's outstretched hands. He had Wilder stumbling around the ring. I have to imagine, a bigger, younger, more active fighter will be able to land around those wide, a foot in front of the chin hands as well.
 
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I favour Wilder now, the Joshua from the Whyte fight would have taken Wilder out early Joshua was swinging from round 1, this patient Joshua is going to let Wilder go 3-4 rounds before really going for it by then Wilder's right hand will be ready, I think Wilder will find his range first because Joshua doesnt step back all the time whereas Wilder always does
 

JeffJoiner

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What if Ortiz had the chin of Joshua in that fight?
Joshua has only been seriously hurt by Wlad (at least that I know of). Ortiz took quite a few shots before he went down, I'd imagine AJ would do the same.

My thinking is that Wilder won't get many chances to throw his power punches as he'll be getting hit with the jab, then hooks, and have his hands out of position (like normal).
 
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I have it 75 - 25 for Wilder.

Obviously, it's whomever lands the first clean punch.

AJ makes less mistakes, but Wilder is MUCH faster, especially at getting in & out. AJ is also kind of a slow starter, whereas Wilder has a history of exploding off the opening bell.

Wilder is also, obviously, very unorthodox in his offense, which works in his favor against a fairly one-dimensional fighter like AJ.