Donald Trump VS. Joe Biden Second (and final) Debate Round by Round Thread

Who won the debate last night

  • Small win for Trump

  • Small win for Biden

  • Huge win for Trump

  • Huge win for Biden

  • Draw


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Johnstown

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For those watching the debate please feel free to post your thoughts, observations and impressions while watching the debate.

Kinda like a RBR...

Debate scheduled to start at 9:00 pm EST.









So we have the first debate in a little over 48 hours from the time of this post (Tuesday September 29 and 9:00 PM EST).

I plan on turning this into a RBR come debate time...but for now, make your predictions.

What do you think will happen?

(I will add a plethora of poll options).
 
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Johnstown

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You can vote on up to two choices, but you can just do one vote if you like.

Either the two things that you think are most likely or two things you think are related.

Votes are public, can't be changed, and poll closes around 5:30 on Tuesday (about 3 hours before the debate).
 

Johnstown

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No matter what happens at the debate here is what's gonna happen:

Republicans will say: Trump won
Democracts will say: Biden won
I don't totally disagree with that but there is the factor of undecided voters. If more think one or the other won you can argue they are the winner (especially since they are the voters up for grabs).

Playing to undecided has its issues because the undecided voters are very uninformed on issues so they often decide winners based on style over substance and personality over ideas.
 
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Tko6

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No matter what happens at the debate here is what's gonna happen:

Republicans will say: Trump won
Democracts will say: Biden won
I'll try to be objective about it. I thought Hillary 'won' the debates last time going by conventional rules. Trump came out strong for the first 15-20 minutes in each of them iirc, but Hillary settled in and Trump trailed off.

That said, the only thing people remember from those debates is 'because you'd be in jail', and I think it will be Biden trailing off this time round. He was fading badly at the last town hall I watched. Every time Anderson Cooper said they were going for a break, Biden's eyes were glazed over and he looked his age. He's pretty much in the same position Trump was last time round. As long as he doesn't say anything campaign-endingly bad, his supporters will say he did enough not to lose horribly.
 

Johnstown

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Biden calls the moderator Daddy throughout the entire debate and has to be physically restrained 3 times and lefties still deny that he has dementia and claim he won the debate.
You cray cray MrTony
 
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I'll try to be objective about it. I thought Hillary 'won' the debates last time going by conventional rules. Trump came out strong for the first 15-20 minutes in each of them iirc, but Hillary settled in and Trump trailed off.

That said, the only thing people remember from those debates is 'because you'd be in jail', and I think it will be Biden trailing off this time round. He was fading badly at the last town hall I watched. Every time Anderson Cooper said they were going for a break, Biden's eyes were glazed over and he looked his age. He's pretty much in the same position Trump was last time round. As long as he doesn't say anything campaign-endingly bad, his supporters will say he did enough not to lose horribly.
I don't totally disagree with that but there is the factor of undecided voters. If more think one or the other won you can argue they are the winner (especially since they are the voters up for grabs).

Playing to undecided has its issues because the undecided voters are very uninformed on issues so they often decide winners based on style over substance and personality over ideas.
It's amazing that there are people out there who's going to decide between these two based on personality. In the last few weeks I've seen as least three crazed trump supporters waving huge flags over highways, setting up shop in a park, and having a motorcycle support gathering with flags and honking etc. It's a fucking cult, they already decided.

Though yes I agree on getting more on the fence votes...Biden needs to appeal to republican voters who are moderate enough to vote for him...he is already got all the Democratic votes. There is no way any democrats will not vote for him, to have a Hillary repeat. McCains wife supports him, Bush probably does too. So if he doesn't call on defunding the Police for example, but instead reforming the police he can win some of those votes etc and get Trump outta there.
 

Haggis

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Look at this parade of absolute clowns lining up to mindlessly chant "Biden has dementia!" together.

Yeah, Biden is too old. So is Trump, so is Pelosi, so is McDonnell. They are ALL fucking ancient, you have a government of geriatrics and that's a problem.

Meanwhile, take a look at a fucking transcript of either Trump or Biden answering a question or speaking off the cuff.

But they won't.

Still - which one of them is capable of holding a thought for more than a sentence and a half?

Not the orange one who hasn't read a single book in his adult life.

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Look at this parade of absolute clowns lining up to mindlessly chant "Biden has dementia!" together.

Yeah, Biden is too old. So is Trump, so is Pelosi, so is McDonnell. They are ALL fucking ancient, you have a government of geriatrics and that's a problem.

Meanwhile, take a look at a fucking transcript of either Trump or Biden answering a question or speaking off the cuff.

But they won't.

Still - which one of them is capable of holding a thought for more than a sentence and a half?

Not the orange one who hasn't read a single book in his adult life.

:hat

a lot of that high school angst bubbling beneath the surface, seems to be getting worse

you seem quite angry

a nice warm cup of camomile tea may help settle you
 

SwollenGoat

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Im thinking biden 'wins' by being more coherent, honest and on point but trump could well 'wing the event' by telling a lot of lies really loudly

thats gonna convince a good slice of the public and thats half the problem with trump and his retarded base to begin with
 
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Eh, it's really hard to predict debates but I'm going to go with a "Close Biden win" meaning that he will get most people to agree that he won the debate but it will likely not be a destruction.

My main prediction though is that it will not be anything more than a "Close Trump win", and Trump backers that thought that Biden was going to get killed because of dementia are going to have to eat alot of crow and make up excuses for Trump on why he couldn't beat "a guy with dementia".
 

Johnstown

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Im thinking biden 'wins' by being more coherent, honest and on point but trump could well 'wing the event' by telling a lot of lies really loudly

thats gonna convince a good slice of the public and thats half the problem with trump and his retarded base to begin with
I think Biden is more capable of calling out Trump on that type of shit than Hillary (even though I think Hillary is smarter than Biden and in some ways a better debater). I just think Biden has a temperament better suited. As long as he doesn't punch Trump anyhow.
 
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Tko6

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I was digging through my old posts to check that I did think Trump lost the debates last time round, and that I wasn't imagining it.

'That was his only bright spot in the last 2/3, and she came straight back. Trump got his ass handed to him.'


'If I was an American voter and knew nothing about either candidate, Hillary would obviously be the clear winner. Hillary's problem is that everyone knows a fucking awful lot about her, and most of it is not positive. How much that will affect votes, who knows? '

'Well my take is Hillary scored plenty of knockdowns, but no knockout. 80% of voters have probably already decided who they're voting for, maybe more, so it comes down to undecideds and I don't think Hillary did quite enough to convince them.'


and finally,


'It's gonna be interesting to see how the media spin this. There's no way anyone could interpret that as a Trump win, surely? '
 
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SwollenGoat

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I was digging through my old posts to check that I did think Trump lost the debates last time round, and that I wasn't imagining it.

'That was his only bright spot in the last 2/3, and she came straight back. Trump got his ass handed to him.'


'If I was an American voter and knew nothing about either candidate, Hillary would obviously be the clear winner. Hillary's problem is that everyone knows a fucking awful lot about her, and most of it is not positive. How much that will affect votes, who knows? '

'Well my take is Hillary scored plenty of knockdowns, but no knockout. 80% of voters have probably already decided who they're voting for, maybe more, so it comes down to undecideds and I don't think Hillary did quite enough to convince them.'


and finally,


'It's gonna be interesting to see how the media spin this. There's no way anyone could interpret that as a Trump win, surely? '
and yet they did

they mistake his lies and yelling for 'winning'
 
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If Biden is sundowning this could be really bad for him. If he is not sundowning than Democrats will hear what they want and the same with Republicans and it won’t amount to much. It’s probably good that a Trump has a chance to explain his tax issues.
It will be interesting to see if Biden loses his cool at any point.
 
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