Donald Trump's post presidential legal challenges. Will Trump pardon himself?
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rjjfan
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Who knows....
What would be funny as shit is if he resigned, Pence became President but then didn't pardon him.
Wishful thinking though
What would be funny as shit is if he resigned, Pence became President but then didn't pardon him.
Wishful thinking though
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I'm not a legal expert but I believe in such scenario Pence can only pardon him on federal charges, Trump is facing a lot charges with the state of New York.
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I doubt he ends up in Prison. I do expect more of his associates though to be potentially facing time inside. Hopefully Prince Kushner is one of them..
But SDNY and the state attorney of States like NY will have him tired him up for a while, costing him a lot in legal fees.
But SDNY and the state attorney of States like NY will have him tired him up for a while, costing him a lot in legal fees.
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SwollenGoat
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he has the funds to tie up anything in court for years I imagine.....................the fat fuck will fall over dead long before he is convicted,loses the appeal and is sent to prison I reckon
best case is to make his post POTUS life hell.................
No doubt, but against the state attorney general and juggernauts like SDNY? It's gotta be costly.
Johnstown
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Especially after his "wife" divorces him and cashes out on the post "prenup" that was redone in 2017.
Johnstown
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I'd like to see him still be able to run as a third party in 2024 and syphon off enough republican votes to give Dems the biggest landslide for a Dem in decades.
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Clarence Worley
Trump lost!!!
The ones going to prison should be those who just stole the American election and any idea America is a legit democracy
Haggis
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So what's your plan to show that America IS in fact a legitimate democracy?
Force a bunch of judges or Republican legislators to award the election to the guy who earned six million fewer votes than his opponent?
That's your plan for restoring faith and legitimacy to American democracy, isn't it. That's genuinely it.
Clarence Worley
Trump lost!!!
Free and fair electionsSo what's your plan to show that America IS in fact a legitimate democracy?
Force a bunch of judges or Republican legislators to award the election to the guy who earned six million fewer votes than his opponent?
That's your plan for restoring faith and legitimacy to American democracy, isn't it. That's genuinely it.
Setanta
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This would be a favourable scenario and would obliterate any chance of a GOP win in 2024.
However, I'm not so sure it's in the cards.
Assuming for a moment that the core of the GOP is NOT attempting a coup and are NOT stomping on the fingertips of democracy as it clings to the ledge, then the only rationale for their continued jackassery around the 2020 election result, a clear and fairly wide-margin win for Biden, is that they fear a defeated Trump almost as much as they fear a president Trump. None of them want to incur his well-known wrath and spite, even as his impotence increases daily.
I think they have it all wrong, and their shenanigans will reflect poorly on them in the months and years ahead.
After January 20, Trump will have a lot more on his mind than which Republicans to be attacking and which ones to be backing in primaries. His efforts will be mostly devoted to staying out of prison and preserving what will be left of his financial empire.
As the true depths of his corruption emerge with more clarity and certainty in the absence of the shielding from a post-Barr DOJ, his support will continue to erode, and more traditional conservatives will regain ascendancy within the GOP.
One would hope that those gutless republicans who have enabled him through his presidency would be repudiated much like collaborators were in post WW2 France, or the Stasi and their ilk in post 1989 Germany. However, I supect they will find a way to rationalize their erstwhile grovelling and arse-licking, and continue to play a modified role in public life.
At any rate, it is of paramount importance that Trump is suitably punished for his behaviour. If this does not happen, there is nothing to dissuade future characters from similar behaviour.
And this leaves Biden with a difficult tight-rope to walk. He has promised to heal the nation's deep divisions and, like Lincoln in 1865, he needs to avoid draconian punishment of his defeated rivals. But at the same time, a clear message needs to be sent regarding criminal behaviour that erodes the legitimacy of American constitutional norms and protocols.
Trump is engaging in ever more desperate efforts to steal the election from the eighty million voters who have repudiated him (abuse of court processes.....purveying utterly ludicrous conspiracy theories that are lapped up by his simple-minded hard-core...and now, pressuring GOP state legislators to overturn legitimate results).
These actions cannot go unpunished if government of the people, by the people, for the people, is not to perish from America.
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Haggis
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Setanta
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For the reasons I stated above (post #15), I think not.
I also believe that the GOP will modify their primary process to make it more similar to the Democratic party's primaries.
Trump could not have secured the nomination in 2016 had it not been for winner-take-all primaries.
At 78, and given how he will be viewed four years hence, I wouldn't give him much chance of even being a candidate, and even less chance of being a GOP candidate.
He might not even be at large.
Or alive.
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Setanta
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According to US actuarial tables, an average 74 year old has a 16 % chance of dying in the next four years.
As the Donald is a bit overweight and is a covid survivor, I'd put his chance of bing around in four years as 80% at best.