DRC Ebola Outbreak

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Apparently the WHO are very concerned about a fresh Ebola outbreak in the Congo, it's on track to spread in a similar way to the outbreak in West Africa in 2016 which killed 11,000 people, the problem here is the DRC is in ongoing civil war, mostly in the North Kivu region where the outbreak is located and armed groups keep attacking the medical centres treating infected patients, making it impossible to keep this outbreak under control. One World Health Org Doctor has already been slaughter by an armed group while trying to treat the infected.

There's something like 1000 recorded deaths so far with another 1600 infected (66% fatality rate among infected) but due to the unrest in the country, this might be an underestimate by a hefty factor, there's really no way of knowing and the country isn't safe enough to have the specialists in there to try and bring this under control. What they do know is this figure is the top of the iceberg in a country with over 70 million people ravaged by war, human rights abuses and famine ... the potential is disastrous.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/15/terrifying-ebola-epidemic-out-of-control-in-drc-say-experts

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The reality is that the Kivu Conflict is disastrous as is, with estimates of millions killed over the past 2 decades and with this outbreak piled on top, it might be time the "International Community" muster up the will to say that enough is enough and the conflict starts getting similar attention to the Syrian Civil War and a lesser extent, the war in Yemen.

Should we act now before this becomes an epidemic killing thousands and thousands of people?

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1127695/ebola-news-ebola-outbreak-africa-congo-out-of-control-world-health-organisation-wellcome

https://gizmodo.com/second-worst-ebola-outbreak-in-history-is-now-killing-6-1834780459

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kivu_conflict

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Kivu
 
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Huh, no wonder...

Anyways, Africa seems like a hell-hole to live. I'd feel bad for any doctor stationed down there. Would suck to volunteer down there trying to do a good thing and getting hacked up by some machete-wielding psychopath.

Light in the tunnel is there is tons and tons of mosquito research being conducted at universities. I think the only way to stop this isn't through volunteering doctors to treat patients, but I think getting researchers to do their thing. Pretty sure labs are working to either make mosquitos less pathogenic or just make them extinct altogether.

I've had a class on their lifecycle but only as so far as the lifecycle in terms of disease. It wasn't on their ecology or whatever. I wouldn't know if mosquitos were at all useful.
 

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It's OK David Lammy says Africa can sort its own problems out. Nothing to see here.

The DR Congo is one of those places where you just could not imagine living in. Unbelievably sad.
 
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Huh, no wonder...

Anyways, Africa seems like a hell-hole to live. I'd feel bad for any doctor stationed down there. Would suck to volunteer down there trying to do a good thing and getting hacked up by some machete-wielding psychopath.

Light in the tunnel is there is tons and tons of mosquito research being conducted at universities. I think the only way to stop this isn't through volunteering doctors to treat patients, but I think getting researchers to do their thing. Pretty sure labs are working to either make mosquitos less pathogenic or just make them extinct altogether.

I've had a class on their lifecycle but only as so far as the lifecycle in terms of disease. It wasn't on their ecology or whatever. I wouldn't know if mosquitos were at all useful.
Are mosquitoes the main spreader of Ebola, I had always assumed it spread similar to the flu?
 
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It's OK David Lammy says Africa can sort its own problems out. Nothing to see here.

The DR Congo is one of those places where you just could not imagine living in. Unbelievably sad.
They report something like 400,000 women are raped each year... that's probably a low-ball estimate too, there was a kick up with these do-gooder clowns in the UK a couple month back when someone made the claim that most girls will be raped in some places like the DRC before they're 16 yrs old... it's hardly an exaggeration but it cause an almighty stink by virtue signalers trying to protect the dignity of the DRC.

Then you had women from these countries living in the UK calling in to say it's 100% true and that most rapes aren't even reported because they know absolutely nothing will be done about it. It's treated like someone stealing your bicycle here, one of those unfortunate things that just happens sometimes.

Due, to the wars they can't grow crops safely and this causes massive outbreaks of famine and disease... there must be about a dozen different militia groups fighting over ethnic / geographical squabbles. The place is hell on earth.

We should send fucking David Lammy over there for a couple years the smart arse prick.
 
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Anyways, Africa seems like a hell-hole to live.
It's a huge continent with massively varied climates, scenery, culture and living conditions. We do tend to get shown the worst in the west, but there's plenty of places where you would live very comfortably and I've worked and known plenty of Africans from different places who sure as fuck did not have hellish backgrounds.
 
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Are mosquitoes the main spreader of Ebola, I had always assumed it spread similar to the flu?
I don't even know if they spread Ebola or not, but it's not just Ebola that runs rampant in these regions. Mosquitos cause a hell of a lot of diseases. I don't think there is evidence that mosquitos spread Ebola, but I sure as shit wouldn't discount it. We still know very little about mosquitos even though they're a hugely studied insect.

Reason why I said "no wonder" is because a lab that I was visiting had a bit of a secretive breakthrough in Africa. I was just wondering why the professor was talking to me about Africa a lot during the interview, and he said something about an outbreak. Really, when I hear Africa, my mind just shuts down. I feel for that region, but I'd not set foot on that continent. I don't have any interest in studying that region, really.
 

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Africa is a big place. But it does have an awful lot of hellholes, the Congo probably being one of the if not the worst. Every psychopath has his own little private army somewhere in the woods with crack addicted child soldiers dressed in drag killing everything that moves. Bit like Liberia with General Buttnaked and such. Or Rwanda where people hacked their neighbors to death with machetes. The world has a lot of places where I'd rather not be found, it's not exclusive to Africa, but there are levels to this shit and Africa can be absolute madness. Cannibalism, voodoo, armies made of a hundred child soldiers on crack and a general. Imagine being sane and growing up in such a place.
 
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Not a scene you'd easily find elsewhere.

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I remember years ago reading articles in Loaded magazine about Somalia and the horrific shit they would do to people and they spoke about having to deal with irrational immature child soldiers. Kids walking around with toys and RPGs, it's just fucking insanity ... reading up on DRC, it's telling how we consider Africa when none of this shit even makes the news.
 
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Huh, no wonder...

Anyways, Africa seems like a hell-hole to live. I'd feel bad for any doctor stationed down there. Would suck to volunteer down there trying to do a good thing and getting hacked up by some machete-wielding psychopath.

Light in the tunnel is there is tons and tons of mosquito research being conducted at universities. I think the only way to stop this isn't through volunteering doctors to treat patients, but I think getting researchers to do their thing. Pretty sure labs are working to either make mosquitos less pathogenic or just make them extinct altogether.

I've had a class on their lifecycle but only as so far as the lifecycle in terms of disease. It wasn't on their ecology or whatever. I wouldn't know if mosquitos were at all useful.
Nah it's not a hell hole mate. There are some lovely countries there. Senegal, Ghana, Gabon, Kenya, Botswana, Namibia, Zambia, Tanzania to name a few.

There are countries I would consider to live in Africa. There are parts though where eating bushmeat is still a thing, and where it's terribly impoverished leading to disease. A lot of Africa is incredibly beautiful though.
 
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I'm not at all laughing at the pain this poor man is experiencing, but this video reminded me of Age of Empires when you have a group of men attack a single target. All that "umphing" sounds similar as hell too!
 
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It's a huge continent with massively varied climates, scenery, culture and living conditions. We do tend to get shown the worst in the west, but there's plenty of places where you would live very comfortably and I've worked and known plenty of Africans from different places who sure as fuck did not have hellish backgrounds.
Yep. The continent, as a whole, can use a lot of improvement. But we have a skewed vision of Africa as a one size look, when in fact there are plenty of amazing places and people. Maybe if more of the reality of the continent were understand, then investment and growth could improve a great deal more.