Eerie/creepy photos. **UPDATED** - Historic newspaper front pages. Shitloads of newspaper front covers about tragedies.

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New Zealand murder mystery guy David Bain's 111 call on "discovering" his murdered family. Not exactly scientific analysis, but personally, as an emergency operator, nothing about this call sounds "right".



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What's your take on Bain? I remember in my teens believing he was innocent, however I hadn't taken even half of an in depth look at the case details at that point, since then though, I'm leaning towards that he did murk them all.
 

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What's your take on Bain? I remember in my teens believing he was innocent, however I hadn't taken even half of an in depth look at the case details at that point, since then though, I'm leaning towards that he did murk them all.
Oh he is 100% guilty, no doubt. :lol:

No doubt at all in my mind. And if we got together over beers, I would happily explain why for three hours. :lol:

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Oh he is 100% guilty, no doubt. :lol:

No doubt at all in my mind. And if we got together over beers, I would happily explain why for three hours. :lol:

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I haven't taken a deep dive into it in about almost 3 Months, but there was a podcast I recall that was pretty compelling in laying most of the key details out that David could've been the only one to have done it, not his father.
 

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Los Angeles Times, Sunday, August 17, 1969. One week after the Manson Family murders.




Any educated guesser/true crime buffs want to guess/identify why I posted this specific image? Shouldn't be heaps difficult. :thumbsup

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Los Angeles Times, Sunday, August 17, 1969. One week after the Manson Family murders.




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Is that pic of old man Spahn and Squeaky Fromme???? No, it's not upon further investigation.

The page has details of both Manson murder scenes-----Tate and La Bianca and also the fact the Manson family was arrested for auto theft.
 

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Is that pic of old man Spahn and Squeaky Fromme???? No, it's not upon further investigation.

The page has details of both Manson murder scenes-----Tate and La Bianca and also the fact the Manson family was arrested for auto theft.
Indeed! :happy

It has three relevant articles, and (IMO) they are interesting because:

1) "Anatomy of A Mass Murder In Hollywood" - an account of the Tate murders at Cielo Drive.

2) "LaBianca Couple, Victims of Slayer, Given Final Rites" - this is about the funerals of the victims of the second Manson Family slaying, carried out the next night. At this point, the LAPD had not linked the two crimes, and were working under the assumption that the LaBiancas were killed by a single maniac and not a group of drug-fucked psycho hippies. (Hence the singular wording of the headline.) I don't know how they hadn't figured out the cases were connected, since the word "PIG" was written in blood on the door of the Tate house, and the words "POLITICAL PIGGIES" were written in blood on the wall of the LaBianca house 24 hours later.

3) "Police Raid Ranch, Arrest 26 Suspects In Auto Theft Ring" - this is Spahn Ranch, and it's basically the entire Manson Family plus a few associates who got arrested. It doesn't name anyone in the article. Later, they were caught for the murders because after sitting in jail after the auto theft bust, Susan Atkins boasted about her participation in the Tate murders to a couple of career criminal cellmates. They ratted her out to the warden, because seriously, fuck that crazy bitch. And that was it for the Manson Family. But at the time this newspaper was published, this was just three random newspaper stories, each with no known connection to the others. :thumbsup

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The cops back then were so territorial about working cases in their jurisdictions and not sharing information with other agencies to help solve these type crimes that the obvious was often overlooked or thought of as being "copycat killings".

The similarities in the Tate and La Bianca killings were glaringly evident even to an amateur sleuth, but the professionals on the scenes couldn't put it together for some illogical reason.

And yes, Susan Atkins was the Manson family downfall with her telling her cellmate about the killings and how she participated. From what I remember, her cellmate knew the layout of the house Roman Polanski and Sharon Tate lived in on Cielo Drive and when Atkins described the interior of the house, particularly the exposed beams in the living room that they threw a rope over to tie up Tate, she knew she was telling the truth and knew she had to let the authorities know.

Who knows if they ever would have been caught if not for Atkins having a big mouth because the authorities had no fucking clue and they were such random acts that the Manson family would have been difficult to tie to the crimes.
 

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Front pages after disasters/tragedies:







"Tragedy may alter politics of Europe"....... yeah........ more than you think it will, actually. :sad






Kent State National Guard shootings.


Note one of the first instances of image editing in an iconic photograph - they removed the metal fence post from the top of the woman's head:





For months, the Waco Tribune-Herald had been investigating David Koresh and the Branch Davidians because of rumours of child abuse at the compound. Their seven-part series "Sinful Messiah" was published on February 27, 1993. The shootout at the compound that kicked off the seige took place on February 28.


Anyone wants to read the Tribune-Herald series, it's here. :thumbsup


You gotta answer one bullshit survey question, but there's no paywall and you don't have to enter any details.

Aaaaaanyway.......










More in a bit.

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Poor police work there, being that the cop asked his name right off the bat and got "Robert Jones." A few minutes later - "what was your name again?" "Jimmy Jones." And the cop didn't pick up on it. But on the other hand, McNair seemed completely plausible, considering what the stakes were for him. His demeanour and quick answers were pretty much spot on.

I actually kind of respect McNair. He's obviously an intelligent guy. He killed a dude, but the guy surprised him during an after hours burglary, confronted him and got shot, so he's not a sadistic psycho killer. After his arrest he reckons he renounced violence. Okay anyone can say that, but then he was never violent towards anyone, cops and civilians alike, in all the time he was on the run later, or during any of his recaptures. He's also really articulate in his writings, correspondence about his crimes with a journalist, and thoughts on the prison system. Calls the cops who arrested him "good men doing their jobs", and engaged in friendly banter with them on the ride to the police station. Also says he respects his Supermax guards and they treat him with dignity considering the constraints of their job and the dangerous monsters they have to deal with every day. In terms of guys in Supermax prisons serving life with no parole, he seems alright. :conf

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