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The telegram that drove Hitler to suicide sold for $55,000
“My Fuhrer: General Koller today gave me a briefing on the basis of communications given to him by Colonel General Jodl and General Christian, according to which you had referred certain decisions to me and emphasized that I, in case negotiations would become necessary, would be in an easier position than you in Berlin. These views were so surprising and serious to me that I felt obligated to assume, in case by 2200 o’clock no answer is forthcoming, that you have lost your freedom of action. I shall then view the conditions of your decree as fulfilled and take action for the well being of Nation and Fatherland. You know what I feel for you in these most difficult hours of my life and I cannot express this in words. God protect you and allow you despite everything to come here as soon as possible. Your faithful Hermann Goering”



A death mask belonging to a high-ranking official at the end of the 18th dynasty, Egypt, 1331 – 1292 BC.



Benjamin Franklin if he was a modern politician.



Abraham Lincoln as a modern politician.



Al Capone's jail cell.


Ötzi “The Iceman” Discovery in the Italian Alps (1991)
This photograph captures Ötzi’s 5,300-year-old well preserved body at the moment of its discovery in an alpine glacier together with his hunting tools, weapons and other accouterments offering valuable insights into the way of life of copper age communities in Europe, the Ötzal Alps-1991 (Italian-Austrian border).

An extensive examination including computed tomography scans of the naturally mummified corpse have shown an arrowhead embedded in the back under the left scapula.

The arrow wound and other violence-related injuries are clear evidence for a violent neolithic clash, to which Ötzi fell victim.



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pyramid stuff is an odd one as far as race goes. some of my good friends are rastas and they just buy in to the whole black people built the pyramids thing. but the images those guys left are so ambiguous i can't argue, i just point out some fcts that might not matter, for the sake of conversation and to see how much they can explain.

what race ruled the state that built the pyramids? i don't fucking care, but if you do, pretty good chance it was black guys from my learning.

now hannibal, imo he was def black, the only evidence for his skin colour is 1 coin that obviously shows a black man (unlike like the stylised pyramid era stuff it's obvious), it's def carthaginian writing, it's recorded he minted coins in italy and it was found at the site of a battle his army fought in.
 
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pyramid stuff is an odd one as far as race goes. some of my good friends are rastas and they just buy in to the whole black people built the pyramids thing. but the images those guys left are so ambiguous i can't argue, i just point out some fcts that might not matter, for the sake of conversation and to see how much they can explain.

what race ruled the state that built the pyramids? i don't fucking care, but if you do, pretty good chance it was black guys from my learning.

now hannibal, imo he was def black, the only evidence for his skin colour is 1 coin that obviously shows a black man (unlike like the stylised pyramid era stuff it's obvious), it's def carthaginian writing, it's recorded he minted coins in italy and it was found at the site of a battle his army fought in.

I'd always gone on the Egyptians who built the pyramids looked like modern Egyptians. So not really black, more Arab looking. Without going into full history though as their is a lot I can admit I was likely long. Obviously populations shift and migrate or suffer invasion which means over a few thousand years the locals on a certain area are likely to change.

I'd not put too much extra thought into it, even during the whole black Egyptians stuff that was popular a decade or so ago.

That was till I went to the British Museum and took a closer look at the Egyptian statues we have in there. It looked pretty clear to me these guys were black
 
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Ledell Lee’s last words were “I am an innocent man” before being executed in 2017 for the murder of Debra Reese. Today, a different man’s DNA was found on the murder weapon (article)

For 22 years, Ledell Lee maintained that he had been wrongly convicted of murder. DNA testing has revealed that genetic material on the murder weapon — which was never previously tested — in fact belongs to another man.


This is exactly why the death penalty has no place in a modern civilised society.

Even after the horrors of spending 20+ years in jail for something he didn’t do, he’d have gotten out and could have still had the chance the live happily. Execution put and end to any of that.

That picture is chilling though… the look in his eyes and expression piercing
 

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This is exactly why the death penalty has no place in a modern civilised society.

Even after the horrors of spending 20+ years in jail for something he didn’t do, he’d have gotten out and could have still had the chance the live happily. Execution put and end to any of that.
Yep. Exactly.

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This is exactly why the death penalty has no place in a modern civilised society.

Even after the horrors of spending 20+ years in jail for something he didn’t do, he’d have gotten out and could have still had the chance the live happily. Execution put and end to any of that.

That picture is chilling though… the look in his eyes and expression piercing
This does not mean he did not commit the crime. It means someone else could have also handled the knife. The same testing done recently also showed that the victims blood was probably on his sneakers.
 
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This does not mean he did not commit the crime. It means someone else could have also handled the knife. The same testing done recently also showed that the victims blood was probably on his sneakers.
We can't prove it was him. Let's just kill the black man anyway, he probably did it.


What a surprise, right? :rolleyes

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We can't prove it was him. Let's just kill the black man anyway, he probably did it.


What a surprise, right? :rolleyes

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The man who DNA proved was a serial rapist.he was also convicted of two other rapes and had another murder charge dropped only because he was already on death row.
Who said they can’t prove it? There was other evidence. He also spent money that was stolen from the victim. Numerous eye witnesses saw him leave the victims residence. Of course you jumped right to he is innocent. This always happens with these cases because of the biased media.
 
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This is exactly why the death penalty has no place in a modern civilised society.

Even after the horrors of spending 20+ years in jail for something he didn’t do, he’d have gotten out and could have still had the chance the live happily. Execution put and end to any of that.

That picture is chilling though… the look in his eyes and expression piercing
The picture is sweet. Nice to see a rapist/murderer suffering. We need more of this. Is there any video of his execution?
 
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The man who DNA proved was a serial rapist.he was also convicted of two other rapes and had another murder charge dropped only because he was already on death row.
Who said they can’t prove it? There was other evidence. He also spent money that was stolen from the victim. Numerous eye witnesses saw him leave the victims residence. Of course you jumped right to he is innocent. This always happens with these cases because of the biased media.
There was enough for there to be a reasonable doubt he committed the crime. That’s why he shouldn’t not have been executed. That being said it’s hard to feel too bad for a guy who was definitely a serial rapist and quite possibly a murderer as well.
 
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There was enough for there to be a reasonable doubt he committed the crime. That’s why he shouldn’t not have been executed. That being said it’s hard to feel too bad for a guy who was definitely a serial rapist and quite possibly a murderer as well.
I don’t know if there was enough for reasonable doubt. There was plenty of other evidence. This doesn’t take away from the other evidence.
I do agree that I don’t believe in the death penalty unless there is no doubt. I would like there to be a dna match, a confession plus evidence, or a video.
 

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The man who DNA proved was a serial rapist.he was also convicted of two other rapes
Cool story.

Is rape a death penalty offence?

Nope.

So that argument is off the table.

and had another murder charge dropped only because he was already on death row.
You left out a few things, which is surprising.

His retrial was dropped. The first one, the jury couldn't reach a verdict.

His lawyers weren't able to get the evidence DNA tested. When they finally managed to get that done - years after his death - it came back with the DNA of an unknown male on the murder weapon and the victim's clothes. HUGE problem for the prosecution, that they never had to address in court.

Also, the guy was intellectually disabled, so he shouldn't have been in line for the death penalty regardless. Him being legitimately retarded was never brought to the Court's attention. Oh and his lawyer was so drunk in court that he "slurred, stumbled, and made incoherent arguments." He was so drunk in court that the State ordered him to be drug tested, and kicked him off the case.

Oh, and the judge was having an affair with the assistant prosecutor, and later married her. So that's a mistrial right there.

Yeah, this trial wasn't a circus shitshow at all. :rolleyes

Who said they can’t prove it? There was other evidence. He also spent money that was stolen from the victim.
Yep, maybe he DID commit the murder.

Guess what?

"Maybe" isn't enough.

"Probably" isn't even enough.

BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT is the standard. And this case never came close to clearing that standard. But then, you know absolutely nothing about crime or criminal law, which you prove every single time you post about it.

Numerous eye witnesses saw him leave the victims residence.
And?

Eyewitness testimony is garbage. Anyone who knows anything about the subject knows this. Eyewitness testimony is one step up from psychic visions and prophetic dreams. You give me any high profile crime, I'll give you eyewitnesses talking absolute shit and reporting stuff that demonstrably never happened.


Of course you jumped right to he is innocent. This always happens with these cases.
Binary thinker.

I don't jump straight to "he is innocent".

I jump straight to "he is NOT GUILTY".

Do you even understand the difference, and recognise why it is SO important?

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I don’t know if there was enough for reasonable doubt. There was plenty of other evidence. This doesn’t take away from the other evidence.
I do agree that I don’t believe in the death penalty unless there is no doubt. I would like there to be a dna match, a confession plus evidence, or a video.
There was definitely enough for a reasonable doubt, especially for a giving the death penalty.
 
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I don’t know if there was enough for reasonable doubt. There was plenty of other evidence. This doesn’t take away from the other evidence.
I do agree that I don’t believe in the death penalty unless there is no doubt. I would like there to be a dna match, a confession plus evidence, or a video.
* Doesn't believe in the death penalty unless there's "no doubt".

* ONE SENTENCE earlier, was calling for the execution of the retarded black man while acknowledging that the standard for "reasonable doubt" was not met.


You would like there to be "a DNA match"?

There is one, from DNA taken from the murder weapon and the victim's body.

It just doesn't match the retarded black man or anyone known to be associated with him, is all.

Kill him anyway, right?

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Cool story.

Is rape a death penalty offence?

Nope.

So that argument is off the table.

...."

You left out a few things, which is surprising.

His retrial was dropped. The first one, the jury couldn't reach a verdict.

His lawyers weren't able to get the evidence DNA tested. When they finally managed to get that done - years after his death - it came back with the DNA of an unknown male on the murder weapon and the victim's clothes. HUGE problem for the prosecution, that they never had to address in court.

Also, the guy was intellectually disabled, so he shouldn't have been in line for the death penalty regardless. Him being legitimately retarded was never brought to the Court's attention. Oh and his lawyer was so drunk in court that he "slurred, stumbled, and made incoherent arguments." He was so drunk in court that the State ordered him to be drug tested, and kicked him off the case.

Oh, and the judge was having an affair with the assistant prosecutor, and later married her. So that's a mistrial right there.

Yeah, this trial wasn't a circus shitshow at all. :rolleyes



Yep, maybe he DID commit the murder.

Guess what?

"Maybe" isn't enough.

"Probably" isn't even enough.

BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT is the standard. And this case never came close to clearing that standard. But then, you know absolutely nothing about crime or criminal law, which you prove every single time you post about it.



And?

Eyewitness testimony is garbage. Anyone who knows anything about the subject knows this. Eyewitness testimony is one step up from psychic visions and prophetic dreams. You give me any high profile crime, I'll give you eyewitnesses talking absolute shit and reporting stuff that demonstrably never happened.




Binary thinker.

I don't jump straight to "he is innocent".

I jump straight to "he is NOT GUILTY".

Do you even understand the difference, and recognise why it is SO important?

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You need to read the entire thread again when it concerns this topic.
You agreed with a post that stated that this guy was innocent And that he should have been free enjoying his life. I responded to that.

In the other murder trial the jury vote was 11-1 in favor of guilty and the one jury who didn’t vote guilty knew the defense lawyer personally which they found out after the trial.Like I said they didn’t try him again on that because he was already on death row.

They all say they are retarded when they are about to be executed. There was other evidence besides what you have e brought up. I do agree that this was a case where it was not sure enough to execute someone. I objected to saying he was innocent.
 
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* Doesn't believe in the death penalty unless there's "no doubt".

* ONE SENTENCE earlier, was calling for the execution of the retarded black man while acknowledging that the standard for "reasonable doubt" was not met.


You would like there to be "a DNA match"?

There is one, from DNA taken from the murder weapon and the victim's body.

It just doesn't match the retarded black man or anyone known to be associated with him, is all.

Kill him anyway, right?

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Show me where I said he should have been executed. I just don’t care in his case. If he didn’t do it the only tragedy here is the fact the that they stopped looking for who did it.
 
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More questionable taste tattoos.

Carl Panzram:


Albert Fish:


Manson:


Ed Gein:


Andrei Chikatilo:


Dahmer:




Nazi SS blood group tattoo:
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William Clyde Gibson was convicted of three rape-murders. While on Death Row under 23 hour per day confinement, he somehow got this tattoo on the back of his head, and nobody knows how.



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New Years Eve 1979, a party is thrown to celebrate at the Opemiska Club in Chapais, a mining city of 3500 in Quebec. A fire kills 48 people. It had broken out when a 21 yr old playing with a cigarette lighter ignited dried pine bough holiday decorations.
The young man who set off the fire pleaded guilty to criminal negligence and manslaughter and was originally sentenced to eight years. However, on Dec. 22, 1981, the Quebec Court of Appeal cut his jail sentence to two years less a day. The appeal judges said that while what he did was foolish and thoughtless, such an act normally would not have had such serious consequences, and that other factors had contributed to the tragedy.






Florent Cantin, who lit up the fire:

 
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