Elon Musk ventures - Tesla, SpaceX, Neuralink... and everything space I guess?

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Successful record 5th launch, landing and batch of 60 Starlink sat deployment by a Falcon 9 rocket!




rocket just went up...................about 9:30 local time here................missed most of it before I got out to the front porch............

night launches are always pretty cool though
I bet it is, also makes for some fine photography... although during the night with windows open, I bet noise, especially sonic booms are annoying...

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Successful record 5th launch, landing and batch of 60 Starlink sat deployment by a Falcon 9 rocket!




I bet it is, also makes for some fine photography... although during the night with windows open, I bet noise, especially sonic booms are annoying...

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the booms are bad when they come on back down but there isnt one on liftoff..........

its already hot enough round here that Im buttoned up tight with the AC running..............not that its much different than open windows.............the whole place literally shakes when they launch..............makes the dogs crazy but somehow the ducks dont care..........
 
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Ducks don't give a fuck. Interesting:



This means Demo-2 capsule performed so well that NASA's approved Bob & Doug's mission extension to up to 119 days, and hands are needed on ISS deck. More importantly, NASA's approved reuse of F9 booster (expected) AND Crew Dragon capsule (unexpected), which will seriously reduce per seat costs to the lowest ever. This bodes well for tax payers and space tourist as well, tho NASA is contractually obligated to pay normal seat prices to SpaceX. Not sure THIS particular F9 & capsule will fly again, but one of each will be allowed to ferry ppl. starting from regular Crew Dragon mission 2 starting this August (which will use a new capsule).
 
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Falcon 9 turns 10!

Quite a first ride back on June 4, 2010 that marked the start of private space age as we now know it.


Since then SpaceX has had 86 Falcon 9 missions (three Falcon Heavy), 20 ISS resupply missions, 2 Crew Dragon missions (one crewed, one un-crewed) and dozens of first stage booster landings on missions, something not done before and now it's news when it doesn't happen.





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One of the absolutely finest moments this past decade was the Falcon 9 side booster twin landing on the Falcon Heavy debut and they nailed that (core stage lost). Can't imagine where SpaceX will be in 10 years, tho it is building out Starlink satellite internet constellation thousand-strong, has several F9 & FH missions on the launch manifest and got contracted for Dragon XL cargo missions to Moon on FH so we have ideas.

But the real life-long achievement and big IF is Starship. If successful, it will first ferry cargo between Moon & Lunar Gateway then transfer cargo & ppl. to Mars, making humanity a multi-planetary species, as a back-up of sorts of shit really hits the fan down here. Exciting decade ahead, and Boca Chica is at hard work preparing SN5 to hop!

 
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Nooooooo! Elon Musk announced two days ago:



that is until today:


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Of course Elon's responding to former NY Times reporter Alex Berenson's book about undisclosed Covid information that was blocked and therefore censored by Amazon, the dominant bookstore in the US



Tesla stock is down after being up, so in other words, just another day at Elon's office.
 

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Ducks don't give a fuck. Interesting:



This means Demo-2 capsule performed so well that NASA's approved Bob & Doug's mission extension to up to 119 days, and hands are needed on ISS deck. More importantly, NASA's approved reuse of F9 booster (expected) AND Crew Dragon capsule (unexpected), which will seriously reduce per seat costs to the lowest ever. This bodes well for tax payers and space tourist as well, tho NASA is contractually obligated to pay normal seat prices to SpaceX. Not sure THIS particular F9 & capsule will fly again, but one of each will be allowed to ferry ppl. starting from regular Crew Dragon mission 2 starting this August (which will use a new capsule).
That's pretty big, makes individual flights much more profitable for SpaceX on average.

Doug and Bob will be pissed, they only brought enough change of underwear for 14 days.
 

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The Wall Street Journal says (with the odd question mark in the title) says Model Y might just be the best car, expect stock to rise




... and Elon into weed again, expect stock to drop


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Also, found this one funny:

 
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Repaired Starship launch site at Boca Chica looks awfully lot like some low-budget Roger Corman sci-flick on live came before sunrise. Look at that 3-eyed robot!

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Here's an interview with Nikola Motor chief Trevor Milton:






Milton founded Nikola 6 years ago (admittedly as a Tesla fan), and announced (on a digital render), the Nicola hydrogen-battery hibrid semi in 2016, fueled by hydrogen fuel cells. Then when Tesla came out with their full-electric semi in 2017 (in design for several years), Nikola sued Tesla for $2Bil for "design similarities”. I guess you can see some of that if your really want, yet seat position and height, weight distribution or motor section differ vastly if you go beyond general truck design, which is actually quite strictly set by organizations.



If anything, Tesla Semi looks like a copy & paste job of Model X / 3 onto strict truck design, but since some Nikola patents were filed before Tesla ones in the US, USPTO has sided with the former (same story with Apple. vs. Samsung, where Apple could patent the silly "rectangular electronic device with large touchscreen", something featured in 2001 Space Odyssey 40 years before).

But it's an interview worth listening to as while completing in the same industry with the same goals (zero emissions transportation, though producing hydrogen fuel cells have far more carbon footprint than electricity), yet they couldn't differ more. Tesla's vertically integrated which means in-house design, patents, motors, battery chemistry, manufacturing, distribution, repair, software, warranty, insurance and Supercharger network). Nikola's horizontally integrated, outsourcing battery & truck manufacturing, repairs and sales to dealerships, plus charging infrastructure to partners.

It's a race between Nikola's truck and Tesla's Semi to reach market first and Nikola may beat Tesla both to market and at court, yet it's questionable how much of Nikola is left if Shell's building the fueling infrasturcture, Iveco the truck and 3rd party the battery chem & cells. The typical Tesla fanboy response is Nikola being smoke and mirrors with "products coming next year" repeated every 12 months, and that Nikola is a patent troll living off licences, but that's unfair since they've been actually, really working on both vehicle and battery design, and Team Elon dismissed them until USPTO ruled in favor of Nikola.

Nikola does have a cool jet-ski and electric/fuel truck concept, tho still as mock-ups at this point. The big question is: can they turn these into products and put it into ppl's hands?





Nikola is now public with a valuation of $12Bil, and HpyerChange is dissecting how that numbers makes or rather does not make sense

 
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Repaired Starship launch site at Boca Chica looks awfully lot like some low-budget Roger Corman sci-flick on live came before sunrise. Look at that 3-eyed robot!

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Here's an interview with Nikola Motor chief Trevor Milton:






Milton founded Nikola 6 years ago (admittedly as a Tesla fan), and announced (on a digital render), the Nicola hydrogen-battery hibrid semi in 2016, fueled by hydrogen fuel cells. Then when Tesla came out with their full-electric semi in 2017 (in design for several years), Nikola sued Tesla for $2Bil for "design similarities”. I guess you can see some of that if your really want, yet seat position and height, weight distribution or motor section differ vastly if you go beyond general truck design, which is actually quite strictly set by organizations.



If anything, Tesla Semi looks like a copy & paste job of Model X / 3 onto strict truck design, but since some Nikola patents were filed before Tesla ones in the US, USPTO has sided with the former (same story with Apple. vs. Samsung, where Apple could patent the silly "rectangular electronic device with large touchscreen", something featured in 2001 Space Odyssey 40 years before).

But it's an interview worth listening to as while completing in the same industry with the same goals (zero emissions transportation, though producing hydrogen fuel cells have far more carbon footprint than electricity), yet they couldn't differ more. Tesla's vertically integrated which means in-house design, patents, motors, battery chemistry, manufacturing, distribution, repair, software, warranty, insurance and Supercharger network). Nikola's horizontally integrated, outsourcing battery & truck manufacturing, repairs and sales to dealerships, plus charging infrastructure to partners.

It's a race between Nikola's truck and Tesla's Semi to reach market first and Nikola may beat Tesla both to market and at court, yet it's questionable how much of Nikola is left if Shell's building the fueling infrasturcture, Iveco the truck and 3rd party the battery chem & cells. The typical Tesla fanboy response is Nikola being smoke and mirrors with "products coming next year" repeated every 12 months, and that Nikola is a patent troll living off licences, but that's unfair since they've been actually, really working on both vehicle and battery design, and Team Elon dismissed them until USPTO ruled in favor of Nikola.

Nikola does have a cool jet-ski and electric/fuel truck concept, tho still as mock-ups at this point. The big question is: can they turn these into products and put it into ppl's hands?





Nikola is now public with a valuation of $12Bil, and HpyerChange is dissecting how that numbers makes or rather does not make sense


Electric water craft would be huge! My biggest qualm with riding a jet ski is the smell of fuel, it's like I'm riding a lawn mower with the smell in the water.

Snowmobiles would be nice too. None of these vehicles need crazy range as most people ride them for recreation.
 
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Elon Musk makes Starship top SpaceX priority

Besides Crew Dragon and Falcon / Starlink launches that already have resources allocated, SpaceX is going full steam ahead on Starship, which means all the expertise, rockets, successes and failures culminated in this effort of actually building Mars-ready colony ships, for real. Moon first obviously, or rather a successful SN5 pressure test very first likely this week, before more testing, booms, redesigns and even more testing.


But Boca Chica has exploded in new buildings and sites, and Super Heavy assembly high bay is being built out near launch site as we speak. This means unlike Kennedy Space Center's epic Vehicle Assembly Building, SpaceX is splitting construction up and does it in tents and cheap, small bays. The idea is fully finishing and testing a Starship (the upper stage) and Super Heavy (the super heavy booster), and if both a-okay, Lego them together on the outside, launch, return and refurb both, put them together and launch again.



There are two permanent, giant cranes introduced to both sites and more 304L steel rolls have arrived for manufacturing, tho not sure if for SN7 or for SN8. Latest welds look very refined compared to curde ones back in SN2 days.



Of course Falcon 9, Falcon Heacy, Crew Dragon, Cargo Dragon and Cargo Dragon XL missions are still a go, but there's not much innovation to be done on those vehicles, they self-sustain. Booster B1049 returned yesterday just a few days after Crew Dragon's B1058 had it's maiden flight and touchdown. B1049 looks quite banged up since this was its 5th tour, but plans are still pushing the limits at least till 10 missions with minimal refurbishment. Cool pic to show slaces:



Also notice the new Octagrabber that is now installed on both operational drone ships.
 

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Oh shit, Tesla stock just closed at record $950! Cpl things happened:
  • solid day & stock market, tho Tesla eclipsed US rally by 7% gain
  • solid Model 3 sales in China (up to 11k in May, huge recovery post-April) and UK (best selling ANY vehicle 2nd month in a row)
  • Giga Shanghai Phase 2 building out fast, CATL readying million mile battery, Giga Berlin broke ground, Giga UK rumors, Giga Mid-US announcement coming soon
  • battery day & Mil Mile Battery keeps excitement up as well as Elon's innovator image (SpaceX) after "greedy billionaire" (in Fremont shutdown case)
If Tesla breaks even or makes a profit in Q2 (just about impossible, yet after today, not improbable) & rides waves of Giga Tesla & battery breakthrough, stock will hit $1000. On the other hand, employees dying of Covid, US social & China tensions and shutdowns could turn this luck around. Or Elon tweeting some boosheet.
 

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Cool as fuck footage on fairing deployment from fairing half POV:


Looks like fairing halves hit warp speed / wormhole! :yikes Stage 2 rushes past in double quick time.



Also, check out these flyovers at Boca Chica where Starships are manufactured, assembled, tested and so far violently destroyed:



 
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Just broke $1k! Crazy haha

Oh shit, here we go!!! Lets see if $1000+ sticks (no biggie if it isn't).

Latest surge comes post-Elon memo to start ramping Semi. Probably a response to Nikola Motors surge (the other sustainable energy trucking business), but get this: at some point this week Nikola, a company without a factory, a service, or a product in its history was worth $33 Bil!

Ppl. call Tesla overvalued (perhaps it is at $1000), but FFS it was 'overvalued' last year at $30 Bil market cap and it had delivered 500k Roadsters, Model Ss, Model Xs and Model 3s comines, sold self driving packages, insurance, solar panels, battery solutions, battery farms, owned 1000s of patents, 3 separate large factories and had Roadster 2021, Semi truck, Solar Roof & Giga Shanghai in pipeline. And Nikola, a company without a factory, a product or a service, was worth that much! Cap's down into the $20Bils now.

BTW, Elon also said a few days ago that Tesla is facing problems ramping Model Y, which is supposedly being built on assembly line 4 (is that the tent one?). Tho Y came two quarters earlier than expected, Tesla's supply chain has somewhat been disrupted by Covid and there are some shortages slowing ramp... hopefully temporarily, plus China may start building Y as early as Q4 this year.

Giga Berlin's finally doing concrete work, probably for large Y stamping machine. Site's still without factory permit (to be issued or denied in September for some slow-ass German reason), but it has permit for groundwork. Soft soil is an issue as it may not be able to hold cheap piles that are used in Shanghai, and German posters claim Brandenburg may have pushed for the site knowing there will be issues both on location and at legislation. Elon's probably maaaad but Tesla can still push through with Berlin and start building Giga Texas / Tulsa, perhaps even UK. Company's been on a spending spree when everyone else was cutting back.

 
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Elon's comment on $1000:


In other news, Recode reports that at least two and up to 6 Fremont workers have tested positive for Covid-19. Course Alameda is finally very busy testing at these sites, so as I've said before, it will / was supposed to happen soon with 10000 works, and it makes Elon look bad, lets see how the media handles it. Its just inevitable than in tightly packed factories (and millions work in such conditions in the US as we speak), some of the virus will pass masks and general sanitation. Unfortunately, the working class was hit by Covid the hardest, and many of them are ppl. of color who are statistically suffer most, so here's hoping everyone's all right.

https://www.vox.com/recode/2020/6/9/21285625/coronavirus-tesla-elon-musk-fremont-factory

On the other hand, economy can't take another complete shutdown, and Wall Street acts like ppl. working at these factories is a completely natural phenomenon during a pandemic. It isn't. And with millions rightfully hitting the streets as peaceful demonstrators raising their voice, all that happens during a very bad time as far as the virus goes, so US will likely see new spikes. That's where contact tracing comes in. Right now, it appears that Summer is indeed slows spread down significantly, look at Europe stats lately, and many hot countries have been open for some time. But till vaccine there will be inevitably more outbreaks, and that will put enormous pressure on countries whether to keep the economy rolling or shut everything down. Well, we knew that one and three months ago, but at least global death rates look quite promising following mass antibody tests.
 

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Watch Starlink mission live, first time with ride sharing which means some small SkySats hop onto the payload of 58 SpaceX sats.

 

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Phenominal long exposure shot of launch as you can see the firey orange path up to high in the atmosphere where 1st and 2nd stage are illuminated blue by early sunlight that will only reach the Capes half an hour later. Sorry Flat Earthers, that's only possible of the surface of this planet is curved. :lol:

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Starlink sats norminally inserted into orbit, confirmed by SpaceX that shared the landing. No cutout during live stream



Nasaspaceflight caught the entry burn 600 kms away, from the Capes, also the path of the 2nd stage heading toward Europe, there are rares shots




And in a surprise move, SpaceX has rolled out the new 304L alloy stainless steel SN7 tank to the test pad rather than SN5 for hop test. SN7 is not put on the regular (new) pad but place nearby right now. Perhaps tank test before hop test?




Last but not least, Rocket Lab has successfully launched its Electron rocket some 6 hours age for their 'Don't Stop Me Now' mission, well done

 
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