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F1 2018 (+Fantasy League)

AntG

Scaredy Bat
Saw a photo somewhere before of the state of Raikkonens tyre's. It's good to see him back in some sort of good form, can see him winning a couple of races before the seasons out.
 
Saw a photo somewhere before of the state of Raikkonens tyre's. It's good to see him back in some sort of good form, can see him winning a couple of races before the seasons out.
Yeah his tyres were wrecked, Vettel had similar issues but pitted again. Lewis mentioned that Kimi was going too fast through Ascari, adding wear onto his tyres, so that combined with pushing too hard after his 1st pit stop, Bottas holding him up and maybe Ferrari putting too much energy into the tyres through the traction zones.

Hopefully he can win at least 1 but I can't see it happening now that Vettel is 30 points behind Lewis. Then again, would Kimi even listen to team orders now that it's being reported that Leclerc has signed for next year?
 
Yeah his tyres were wrecked, Vettel had similar issues but pitted again. Lewis mentioned that Kimi was going too fast through Ascari, adding wear onto his tyres, so that combined with pushing too hard after his 1st pit stop, Bottas holding him up and maybe Ferrari putting too much energy into the tyres through the traction zones.

Hopefully he can win at least 1 but I can't see it happening now that Vettel is 30 points behind Lewis. Then again, would Kimi even listen to team orders now that it's being reported that Leclerc has signed for next year?
Probably not. I dont see him giving a shit. But they dont really tell him to move over, they just pit him and Vettel gets the undercut because he has been faster all year.

One thing I will say, if Vettel continues to make mistakes and I'm Ferrari is I'd consider Alonso. Seb has had a pretty bad year and has made some crucial mistakes in the best car on the grid. Last year the same can be said, even if they weren't quite on mercs level at that point.

Doubt itll happen, but the old guard at Ferrari is gone and arguably the best driver is available. I hope it doesn't happen, I'd love to see Alonso in indycar for my own selfish reasons
 

Ronsonfly

Toxic White Male
:lol: And Vettel's hit the wall with a fair old sideswipe and Kimi's heading the times ATM.

Early days obviously but I'd love, just love it, if Kimi heads Vettel in every race this season. Team orders? Get fucked.
 
:lol: And Vettel's hit the wall with a fair old sideswipe and Kimi's heading the times ATM.

Early days obviously but I'd love, just love it, if Kimi heads Vettel in every race this season. Team orders? Get fucked.
Seb just cant get out of his own way. Better to get this out of the way in practice but still not good
 
The tyres the top teams choose to qualify on are important. Do they go;

Hypersoft-Hypersoft-Ultrasoft?
Ultrasoft-Soft?
Hypersoft-Soft?
Even a 3 stopper which Pirelli suggest is near as fast as a 2 stopper?

The Hypers were lasting around 10 laps for Ferrari and Merc before a big drop off in performance. On a 61 lap race that's not ideal.
 
The tyres the top teams choose to qualify on are important. Do they go;

Hypersoft-Hypersoft-Ultrasoft?
Ultrasoft-Soft?
Hypersoft-Soft?
Even a 3 stopper which Pirelli suggest is near as fast as a 2 stopper?

The Hypers were lasting around 10 laps for Ferrari and Merc before a big drop off in performance. On a 61 lap race that's not ideal.
Track position is king. I'd expect merc and Ferrari to go ultra soft in q2 as they should have the pace. Maybe well see a gamble out of the midfield to get themselves into q3 however.

I simply cant see giving away track position for a 3 stopper being a good idea. 10 laps isnt enough to clear the slower cars in a pit cycle so you'll come out with slower cars in front of you, still relatively bunched up and racing each other at a place that's very difficult to overtake.

This could make red bull vaunerable. Same with force India? Maybe they split their strategies? Should be interesting
 
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Track position is king. I'd expect merc and Ferrari to go ultra soft in q2 as they should have the pace. Maybe well see a gamble out of the midfield to get themselves into q3 however.

I simply cant see giving away track position for a 3 stopper being a good idea. 10 laps isnt enough to clear the slower cars in a pit cycle so you'll come out with slower cars in front of you, still relatively bunched up and racing each other at a place that's very difficult to overtake.

This could make red bull vaunerable. Same with force India? Maybe they split their strategies? Should be interesting
Agreed. However, the tyre delta is massive this weekend, around 1.7-2.2 seconds a lap between each compound. So that may help facilitate the overtaking necessary for a 2-3 stop, though the 10 lap window as you say is marginal.

Though say if 1 car is on a 1 stopper, US to S, another a 2 stopper, HS-US-HS. The normal delta between the 2 cars at the end of the race will be potentially 4 seconds (sounds mad but some are suggesting it to be true) combined with the fact the Softs will be old and the Hypers relatively new. Just a massive difference in grip. And then throw in a conveniently timed safety car...(this could work both ways I know). And the Hypers giving better grip off the start to get that track position in the first place.

But yeah I agree track position is key here and going long on a 1 stopper to cover a safety car may just flat out win the race. A safety car is likely, historically.

Red Bull should split strategies imo. Plus their race pace is looking very good. Tyre wear not sure but it's been good this season.
 
Agreed. However, the tyre delta is massive this weekend, around 1.7-2.2 seconds a lap between each compound. So that may help facilitate the overtaking necessary for a 2-3 stop, though the 10 lap window as you say is marginal.

Though say if 1 car is on a 1 stopper, US to S, another a 2 stopper, HS-US-HS. The normal delta between the 2 cars at the end of the race will be potentially 4 seconds (sounds mad but some are suggesting it to be true) combined with the fact the Softs will be old and the Hypers relatively new. Just a massive difference in grip. And then throw in a conveniently timed safety car...(this could work both ways I know). And the Hypers giving better grip off the start to get that track position in the first place.

But yeah I agree track position is key here and going long on a 1 stopper to cover a safety car may just flat out win the race. A safety car is likely, historically.

Red Bull should split strategies imo. Plus their race pace is looking very good. Tyre wear not sure but it's been good this season.
This is what we want though. If they aero and tire dog prevent close racing at least well have multiple strategies this week
 
I dont mind crazy tyre dependent races from time to time I hope this is one to mix it up a bit, the 2012 season was awesome and that was peak lol tyres

Hamiltons race last time was awesome one of his best I think because his teammate couldnt overtake a Red Bull for most of the race and Ham did 3 overtakes on ferraris.

Ferrari should have got Alonso for one year next year.
 

Ronsonfly

Toxic White Male
That was a touch unusual in that I've become accustomed to the fastest lap being the final run. I can't remember the last time pole was decided in the dry by an earlier lap. However, I do have a shockingly shite memory. :lol:
 
Vettel must be sick, he had the better car but ended up over half a second slower. Unbelievable.
Vettel winning this championship would feel so undeserved, not that that matters but would just feel wrong.

They used to say Vettel can only win in the fastest car. Now he can't win even with that.

Also, Max V was brilliant. Best driver after Lewis and Alonso.
 
Vettel winning this championship would feel so undeserved, not that that matters but would just feel wrong.

They used to say Vettel can only win in the fastest car. Now he can't win even with that.

Also, Max V was brilliant. Best driver after Lewis and Alonso.
Hahaha yep. It made me laugh how he left Red Bull after Danny R beat him in their first and only season together, it seemed like he wanted to be the no.1 driver and he knew he'd get that at Ferrari with Kimi being past his best.

Max is gonna win a bunch of championships, I can see him ending up at Mercedes when Lewis retires. I don't even think Max needs the best car but a competitive and reliable one. How he smashed Vettel and Bottas today with a bloody Renault is incredible.
 
Hamiltons driving at a ridiculous level right now ATG stuff, Bottas is decent and its not even competitive lately and Vettels not been able to cope with the pressure.


Vettel winning this championship would feel so undeserved, not that that matters but would just feel wrong.

They used to say Vettel can only win in the fastest car. Now he can't win even with that.
It depends what happens in the remaining races theres scenarios where hed deserve it but yeah if this continues and he ends up finishing a fair few points back on Hamilton then hes going to be in a weird spot where hes a 4x WDC that people generally dont think is that good, Im higher on Vettel than most people but still I really think Ferrari should have got Alonso next year just to make sure. If Lclerc beats Vettel next season then basically weve got a 4x wdc that isnt particularly great.
 
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