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Grosjean has been paying his own way hasn't he? By that I mean he has incredible backers doing that for him. Absolute shocking driver, wouldn't feel safe with him taking me to the corner shop.
 
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Grosjean has been paying his own way hasn't he? By that I mean he has incredible backers doing that for him. Absolute shocking driver, wouldn't feel safe with him taking me to the corner shop.
I actually didn't know that. It doesn't surprise me though because he certainly doesn't have a drive based on ability. I'd sooner someone like vandoorne had another crack than see him back in the cockpit. I actually despise pay drivers who take up a spot of genuinely talented lads.
 

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I actually didn't know that. It doesn't surprise me though because he certainly doesn't have a drive based on ability. I'd sooner someone like vandoorne had another crack than see him back in the cockpit. I actually despise pay drivers who take up a spot of genuinely talented lads.

I may be wrong, but I'm sure he was paid for by French TV or something.
 
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I actually didn't know that. It doesn't surprise me though because he certainly doesn't have a drive based on ability. I'd sooner someone like vandoorne had another crack than see him back in the cockpit. I actually despise pay drivers who take up a spot of genuinely talented lads.
I laugh when people say F1 has the best 20 drivers in the world. More like 10 best drivers and 10 other spunkers with financial backing.

Look at stroll ffs, id back myself to beat him if I was given a few months testing in the same car.
 
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I dont get how it all works like Stroll I get it his dads a billionaire and is just chucking some money at it to fulfill his sons/his own dream, most of the other drivers I dont see how its worth anyones money to back them and where the money comes from and youve got to assume its a fair bit of money considering how much like a broken front wing costs, plus sacrificing WCC placing which results in money
 
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I dont get how it all works like Stroll I get it his dads a billionaire and is just chucking some money at it to fulfill his sons/his own dream, most of the other drivers I dont see how its worth anyones money to back them and where the money comes from and youve got to assume its a fair bit of money considering how much like a broken front wing costs, plus sacrificing WCC placing which results in money
I don't understand it. Like you say, stroll just has a mega rich dad so that's his angle. I could see the point in backing a promising guy then linking him to a brand etc as they become successful but the guys that have the money behind them are seemingly crap. Surely after a couple of mediocre/poor seasons their backers would think fuck that and pull their funding. Obviously something more in depth going on than anyone here knows I'm guessing because it's been going on for years so it obviously works for all parties somehow.
 
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I don't understand it. Like you say, stroll just has a mega rich dad so that's his angle. I could see the point in backing a promising guy then linking him to a brand etc as they become successful but the guys that have the money behind them are seemingly crap. Surely after a couple of mediocre/poor seasons their backers would think fuck that and pull their funding. Obviously something more in depth going on than anyone here knows I'm guessing because it's been going on for years so it obviously works for all parties somehow.
I guess it's a way of marketing to be honest. For example, Sergio Perez is backed by Mexican telecoms billionaire Carlos Slim. Slim probably pays X million to the F1 team on the condition that Perez is the driver. By having Perez as the driver it ensures Mexican eyes are watching and talking about a fellow Mexican and in turn his sponsor. A few million a year is fuck all to him anyway.
 
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Thinking Max is going to come 3rd in the WDC, I read some thing saying Red Bull havent actually nailed their chassis this year so theyve still got quite a lot of improvement to come.

Ferrari team order chat for the entire race incoming
 
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Thinking Max is going to come 3rd in the WDC, I read some thing saying Red Bull havent actually nailed their chassis this year so theyve still got quite a lot of improvement to come.

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They finished where they should have but Ferrari are a shitshow on race day. Forget the lack of performance, their strategy and execution is back marker level
 
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They finished where they should have but Ferrari are a shitshow on race day. Forget the lack of performance, their strategy and execution is back marker level
It really is. I think max is an exceptional driver but Ferrari are doing their best to hand him 3rd in this championship battle early doors. How many calls have they made now in the handful of races we've seen this year that have severly hampered their drivers? It's embarrassing for top side. You'd expect it from maybe even a Haas or force India but not Ferrari.
 
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As usual, Barcelona proves to be a pretty shit race.

Hamilton is edging closer to GOAT territory fellas.
Yeah, what seemed inconceivable 10 years ago is not that far off now. When you look at the big records, he's edging closer.

Titles:

Schumacher - 7
Hamilton - 5
Fangio - 5
Prost - 4
Vettel - 4

Race Wins:

Schumacher - 91
Hamilton - 76
Vettel - 52
Prost - 51
Senna - 41

Most Consecutive Seasons With A Win:

Schumacher - 15
Hamilton - 13
Prost - 10
Senna - 9
Piquet - 8

Most Pole Positions:

Hamilton - 84
Schumacher - 68
Senna - 65
Vettel - 55
Prost & Clark - 33

Most Podium Finishes:

Schumacher - 155
Hamilton - 139
Vettel - 113
Prost - 106
Raikkonen - 103

Most Races Finished In The Points:

Schumacher - 221
Raikkonen - 208
Alonso - 202
Hamilton - 197
Vettel - 184

Those are the big ones in records really, and by the end of the season you would suspect that Hamilton will be in second place for the last category of most races in the points, and will be considerably closer to Schumacher on race wins and podium finishes, and will have extended his lead on pole positions. IF he wins the title, then he's one away from tying that up with (you'd imagine) several seasons left in him. If he races for another 3 seasons after this, you'd expect most of those records to go, bar perhaps the world title one. Even then he has the record for the most race wins without winning the title for the year Rosberg won it.
 
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Yeah, what seemed inconceivable 10 years ago is not that far off now. When you look at the big records, he's edging closer.

Titles:

Schumacher - 7
Hamilton - 5
Fangio - 5
Prost - 4
Vettel - 4

Race Wins:

Schumacher - 91
Hamilton - 76
Vettel - 52
Prost - 51
Senna - 41

Most Consecutive Seasons With A Win:

Schumacher - 15
Hamilton - 13
Prost - 10
Senna - 9
Piquet - 8

Most Pole Positions:

Hamilton - 84
Schumacher - 68
Senna - 65
Vettel - 55
Prost & Clark - 33

Most Podium Finishes:

Schumacher - 155
Hamilton - 139
Vettel - 113
Prost - 106
Raikkonen - 103

Most Races Finished In The Points:

Schumacher - 221
Raikkonen - 208
Alonso - 202
Hamilton - 197
Vettel - 184

Those are the big ones in records really, and by the end of the season you would suspect that Hamilton will be in second place for the last category of most races in the points, and will be considerably closer to Schumacher on race wins and podium finishes, and will have extended his lead on pole positions. IF he wins the title, then he's one away from tying that up with (you'd imagine) several seasons left in him. If he races for another 3 seasons after this, you'd expect most of those records to go, bar perhaps the world title one. Even then he has the record for the most race wins without winning the title for the year Rosberg won it.
Quite remarkable reading in all honesty. We are certainly witnessing greatness happen regardless of what some people claim is simply down to the car.
 
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Yeah, what seemed inconceivable 10 years ago is not that far off now. When you look at the big records, he's edging closer.

Titles:

Schumacher - 7
Hamilton - 5
Fangio - 5
Prost - 4
Vettel - 4

Race Wins:

Schumacher - 91
Hamilton - 76
Vettel - 52
Prost - 51
Senna - 41

Most Consecutive Seasons With A Win:

Schumacher - 15
Hamilton - 13
Prost - 10
Senna - 9
Piquet - 8

Most Pole Positions:

Hamilton - 84
Schumacher - 68
Senna - 65
Vettel - 55
Prost & Clark - 33

Most Podium Finishes:

Schumacher - 155
Hamilton - 139
Vettel - 113
Prost - 106
Raikkonen - 103

Most Races Finished In The Points:

Schumacher - 221
Raikkonen - 208
Alonso - 202
Hamilton - 197
Vettel - 184

Those are the big ones in records really, and by the end of the season you would suspect that Hamilton will be in second place for the last category of most races in the points, and will be considerably closer to Schumacher on race wins and podium finishes, and will have extended his lead on pole positions. IF he wins the title, then he's one away from tying that up with (you'd imagine) several seasons left in him. If he races for another 3 seasons after this, you'd expect most of those records to go, bar perhaps the world title one. Even then he has the record for the most race wins without winning the title for the year Rosberg won it.
His percentages are up there too.

His records are matching his obvious talents. Has done it in two different teams also.

Icing on cake would be if he left Merc after current contract, joined Ferrari and won a title. That would be epic.
 
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His percentages are up there too.

His records are matching his obvious talents. Has done it in two different teams also.

Icing on cake would be if he left Merc after current contract, joined Ferrari and won a title. That would be epic.
If he equalled Schumacher for titles in the Merc then claimed an 8th in a Ferrari then for me there would simply be no argument for the number 1 driver in the history of the sport. It's obviously a long way off but to even contemplate the thought of it when he still has several years left in him speaks volumes. For my money he's already a top 3 of all time but I wouldn't argue if people had others in there as there has been a number of greats before Hamilton.
 
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Hes well up there, stats in F1 are a bit weird though like I consider Schumacher the best Ive ever seen but mainly because of his earlier years in Ferrari when he wasnt winning titles and racking up the stats but was dragging an inferior car into wins and title challenges, Id love to see Hamilton do that and I think hes capable but I dont know if its even possible in modern F1 though like max has driven perfectly this season but even if he keeps that up at best hes gonna get a distant 3rd in the championship.

Moving to Ferrari and bringing them their first title in years would be huge though I think he does need something like that to be the GOAT but as far as im concerned hes up there with Schumacher/Senna/Fangio anyway.
 
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Hes well up there, stats in F1 are a bit weird though like I consider Schumacher the best Ive ever seen but mainly because of his earlier years in Ferrari when he wasnt winning titles and racking up the stats but was dragging an inferior car into wins and title challenges, Id love to see Hamilton do that and I think hes capable but I dont know if its even possible in modern F1 though like max has driven perfectly this season but even if he keeps that up at best hes gonna get a distant 3rd in the championship.

Moving to Ferrari and bringing them their first title in years would be huge though I think he does need something like that to be the GOAT but as far as im concerned hes up there with Schumacher/Senna/Fangio anyway.
He got some wins over those dominant red bulls in the mclaren.

Jim Clark, wish I could have seen that era
 
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