'Far Right' German MP 'Beaten half to death'

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What in the hell? I thought people were joking when they brought things up like this, Ive heard similarly laughable examples of incompetence from my mate who works in Russia but nowhere near that level.

I cant believe she got locked in a cupboard like that :lol: Would it not be easier to just change the law when you think of how many man hours are wasted on stupid shit like that?
She wasn't locked in. But still...yeah insane. I would get a call and be told to tell any of my teachers who were not on permits to come in late in order to wait for the inspectors to leave.

Half of it is just making up jobs. So this guys job is to stamp this bit of paper, and this woman stamps that bit etc. It's nuts.
 
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:lol: Mate that is what it is like. Fucking insane. So, so pointless, and it is not solving anything, stopping anything or achieving anything. It's bizarre.

My missus got to walk one day, and a Vietnamese member of staff ran up and said "I'm sorry, I forgot to call you about the inspection". She didn't have her work permit yet and the inspectors were due in 10 minutes. So they got my missus to hide in a stock room where all the paper and stuff was kept. She was due to teach a class she hated, so it was sweet. She sat in the stock cupboard on her phone for 30 mins while a Vietnamese member of staff gave the kids colouring in or some shit and the inspectors came and checked all the working teachers had permits. They didn't check the stock cupboard of course. They probably saw her go in. :lol:
"hey you there, woman in the cupboard! come out with your hands up!"

"...ok"

"...alright well now go back in. We're done here boys"
 

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She wasn't locked in. But still...yeah insane. I would get a call and be told to tell any of my teachers who were not on permits to come in late in order to wait for the inspectors to leave.

Half of it is just making up jobs. So this guys job is to stamp this bit of paper, and this woman stamps that bit etc. It's nuts.
I want a job like that :lol:
 
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Its all race baiting stuff over there about if you prefer white over black or vice versa. All disguised as tea/coffee talk.
All just stupid "banter" all the time, eh? Wouldn't be too surprising, I guess.

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All just stupid "banter" all the time, eh? Wouldn't be too surprising, I guess.

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No, stop being disabled, you obviously don't know what banter is. You just invoke that term whenever it becomes clear people like each other but don't like you.

The lounge over there is more ' what's your favourite ice cream flavour?' than heated political debate.
 

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No, stop being disabled, you obviously don't know what banter is. You just invoke that term whenever it becomes clear people like each other but don't like you.

The lounge over there is more ' what's your favourite ice cream flavour?' than heated political debate.
Didn't I once make a thread here about "what's your favourite ice cream flavour?"

I just asked a question. I don't go over there, because I think the way the split happened, those guys were massive cunts. I just asked if the entire forum over there is just boring pub banter and stupid inside jokes. Do we all have to be or at least act like we're good real life friends here? I don't think so.

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Well, I never expected this thread to turn out to be decent and interesting, I thought it had peaked when I asked which half of him had been beaten to death.
 
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Didn't I once make a thread here about "what's your favourite ice cream flavour?"

I just asked a question. I don't go over there, because I think the way the split happened, those guys were massive cunts. I just asked if the entire forum over there is just boring pub banter and stupid inside jokes. Do we all have to be or at least act like we're good real life friends here? I don't think so.

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I have no idea.

It's not boring pub banter, it's just a group of like minded people who aren't as divisive as those here, which leads to little debate and disagreement on topics like this, so they aren't discussed. It's not necessarily a bad thing, just depends on what you're here for.

No one has ever insisted that you should act like we're good real life friends, the insistence was that you mind your own business and let people who have met each other in real life be friends on the Internet without acting like it's at a cost to you.
 

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I have no idea.

It's not boring pub banter, it's just a group of like minded people who aren't as divisive as those here, which leads to little debate and disagreement on topics like this, so they aren't discussed. It's not necessarily a bad thing, just depends on what you're here for.

No one has ever insisted that you should act like we're good real life friends, the insistence was that you mind your own business and let people who have met each other in real life be friends on the Internet without acting like it's at a cost to you.
Fair enough, I guess. Seems boring, but also better to have the two mindsets in two different places with exchanges if wanted.

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Is this politician, or the party, advocating genocide and the global rule of one race? If so, you just made a good point but if not, you're a disingenuous, mental coward or a scumbag.

By the way, unless you're going to admit you are a scumbag and will instead defend your idiocy, as a socialist supporter, surely you also come under the classification of people who deserve to be abused and assaulted in the street? After all, socialism was integral to the Nazi party. This wouldn't be my argument, by the way, but given the flimsy platform you want to preach from, are you happy to place yourself in the firing line when you swap "fascism" for "socialism"? I'm guessing not.

Personally, I don't believe you deserve to be attacked for being a socialist. Maybe for being an extremist sympathising, defending scumbag, yeah, but not a socialist and nor does this man deserve to be attacked for being a fascist, if he even is one because that term, like Nazi, is thrown around like confetti by the left. I think people have a right to be wrong and don't deserve to be attacked unless they're outright calling for violence. Maybe I'm old fashioned though.
This is....unbelievably stupid. As above Nazis don't start by calling for genocide, and socialism was nothing to do with Nazism, socialists were sent to concentrations camps. That potato and fish finger diet not doing wonders for cognitive ability
 
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@JamieC What are your views on mainstream left wing politics today mate? We don't get to see your input much anymore.

Are you ok calling out uneducated nonsense like the gender pay gap and 'hate speech'? I imagine you have pretty strong principles on freedom of speech and expression given your political views that im familiar with.

Are you an Owen Jones or a Jonathon Pie?

To your previous point I refer you to Never Again, legitimizing the far right only ever helps their cause, we already know this.

To the above, I'm not a Jonathan Pie who's left credentials are shaky at best. The gender pay gap doesn't exist, or rather where it does exist it's a symptom of capitalism which is unavoidable and unfair - time taken off for maternity/childcare etc - that's the game and it's not right but it would be isolated cases where men are paid more than equally qualified women. Other 'SJW' issues (which by the way are totally misrepresented in the media and leftists shouldn't bite) would be that everyone, straight, gay, trans, Muslim, jew, black, white can live how they want if it doesn't affect others. And then Feed The Poor, Eat The Rich. It's a simple manifesto.
 
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'national socialism wasn't socialism' is exactly like the gender pay gap tbh.

since socialism isn't a specific doctrine it's easy to point to a different one and see the differences, but the system as the nazi's ran it had many policies that are socialist. what it wasn't was communist and who went to death camps was communists.

edit - obviously many socialists went to the camps too, anyone who was anti naziparty went, but not en masse based on a label.
 
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To your previous point I refer you to Never Again, legitimizing the far right only ever helps their cause, we already know this.

To the above, I'm not a Jonathan Pie who's left credentials are shaky at best. The gender pay gap doesn't exist, or rather where it does exist it's a symptom of capitalism which is unavoidable and unfair - time taken off for maternity/childcare etc - that's the game and it's not right but it would be isolated cases where men are paid more than equally qualified women. Other 'SJW' issues (which by the way are totally misrepresented in the media and leftists shouldn't bite) would be that everyone, straight, gay, trans, Muslim, jew, black, white can live how they want if it doesn't affect others. And then Feed The Poor, Eat The Rich. It's a simple manifesto.
What do you mean 'left credentials'? The best credential you can have as a political commentator is to not be an ideologue and think rationally issue by issue, as opposed to blindly attaching your self to any issue of social justice or minority causes - like Owen Jones.

Completely disagree regarding the SJW issues, it's far too late in the game to claim that this is simply misrepresentation. I've met plenty and debated with hundreds, it's not made up, it's a genuine movement lead by anti intellectualism. The left SHOULD bite, unless you are happy to never have a left wing Government and happy for people with genuine working class backgrounds to be alienated. You should be calling out stupidity wherever you see it.

If I see someone on a Labour party page asking for some to be arrested for talking about Islam or calling someone a nasty name, why wouldn't I call that out, because it's misrepresented in the media? That doesn't really make sense, you can hear these arguments first hand, you don't need to believe the media. Plenty of the Labour shadow cabinet adopt the majority of these social justice issues.

I remember you claiming a while back that the same thing happens with these ANTIFA folk getting misrepresented, yet there's not a single video or interview I can find that proves what you are saying. They speak for themselves on plenty of issues, you can't hide behind the media. Not sure what the last part of your post means tbh, most of this stuff would affect plenty of people. Having my speech legally censored because someone can't handle free speech affects me, and you.

I'd be interested to see what you disagree with Jonathon Pie on, the Nazi pug? Identity politics?
 
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This is....unbelievably stupid. As above Nazis don't start by calling for genocide
I sort of agree, but not fully. Hitler had said the goal had to be the "removal of the Jews altogether" in 1919. Mein Kampf was published in 1925, and in that he wrote:

"If at the beginning of the war and during the war twelve or fifteen thousand of these Hebrew corrupters of the nation had been subjected to poison gas, such as had to be endured in the field by hundreds of thousands of our very best German workers of all classes and professions, then the sacrifice of millions at the front would not have been in vain."

Obviously they initially looked at forcibly moving Jewish people to other countries, and the official line was not genocide, but from very early on there was clearly a level of hatred and a stated goal to rid the country of the people entirely, by some means, that is not comparable to the AfD.
 
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I sort of agree, but not fully. Hitler had said the goal had to be the "removal of the Jews altogether" in 1919. Mein Kampf was published in 1925, and in that he wrote:

"If at the beginning of the war and during the war twelve or fifteen thousand of these Hebrew corrupters of the nation had been subjected to poison gas, such as had to be endured in the field by hundreds of thousands of our very best German workers of all classes and professions, then the sacrifice of millions at the front would not have been in vain."

Obviously they initially looked at forcibly moving Jewish people to other countries, and the official line was not genocide, but from very early on there was clearly a level of hatred and a stated goal to rid the country of the people entirely, by some means, that is not comparable to the AfD.
I think this is the main point, Jamie is assuming the intent of the AfD based on the most flimsiest of reasoning and using that to justify someone having his skull split open... a reasonable person would see where he was going wrong at this point and walk it back.

There is no comparison to the Nazis, his entire rational seems to be that they are both German and the AfD are anti-immigration, he hasn't once attempted to explain why they are far right, fascists or Nazis so I'll assume (without looking into too deeply myself) that they are not any of these things.

Like I said earlier in the thread, this exact same slippery slope argument could be applied to Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonnell on the left.