Fewer people are getting married because there’s a shortage of economically-stable single men, says study

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Marriage isn’t as popular as it once was. In fact, the marriage rate in the U.S. is the lowest it’s been in at least 150 years, reports PBS.
A new study, published in the Journal of Marriage and Family, may have one explanation as to why: There aren’t enough “economically-attractive” men — ones with a good income and a stable job — for single women to marry.
In the study, researchers examined couples in heterosexual marriages from 2008 to 2012 and 2013 to 2017, compiling character profiles (education and income levels) of the husbands. When they analyzed the pool of available men for these economically-attractive traits that demographically-similar single women might look for, there was a shortage of potential matches.
The researchers hypothesized that potential husbands for the single women had an average income nearly 60 percent higher than the actual pool of available men. They were also 30 percent more likely to be employed and 19 percent more likely to have a college degree compared to current bachelors.
In other words, the researchers say there’s a shortage of available men who are economically attractive, which they define as “partners with either a bachelor’s degree or incomes of more than $40,000 a year.”
While the focus on finances might sound shallow — or at least, not very romantic — lead author, Daniel T. Lichter, PhD, a professor at Cornell University, tells Yahoo Lifestyle that money matters in marriage.
“Economic stability is a key to a stable family life — to getting married, staying married, and marrying well,” he says. “Physical attractiveness may provide an initial filter that draws our attention, but economic considerations and shared values matter much more in the long term. A good job attracts and retains suitable marital partners. And this is true for both men and women.”
Obviously, not every woman (or man) wants to get married. And even those who do want to put a ring on it are doing so later in life, according to U.S. Census Bureau data. “Most young people today no longer marry as teens or when they are in college,” says Lichter. “In the past, high schools and colleges brought similar young people together in a common space where they would meet, form romantic attachments, and perhaps marry. Delayed marriage now means that young people today must find compatible mates elsewhere — in the work place or in the neighborhood at the local gym, bar, or club.”
For women, finding a partner with similar educational backgrounds may also get harder. Women are more well-educated than ever before — it’s estimated that 2019 will be the first year that women make up the majority of the college-educated labor force, according to a Pew Research Center analysis.
And, while there is still a gender pay gap, as more women become financially independent, that may help shift things on the marriage front. Lichter says that finding potential male partners who are economically secure may not matter as much when women are the financially-secure ones. “It seems that this is already becoming more common,” Lichter says. “In the past, it was the case that young women usually ‘married up’ in education or in socioeconomic status. But this is no longer true. Increasingly, young women are marrying men with less education than themselves.”
He continues: “This is due in part to a shortage of similarly-educated men, but women today also are looking for more than a good provider, but for an egalitarian partner to share their lives together.”
https://yahoo.com/lifestyle/fewer-people-are-getting-married-because-theres-a-shortage-of-economicallystable-single-men-says-study-221607423.html

I'm sorry I just dont buy this tbh (No pun intended) I think its more that people now are earning less proportionally than they used to and getting married isnt always cheap.
 
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Getting married costs a fortune and can often prove an unappealing prospect for men if it all goes pear-shaped and he gets dragged through the courts which generally favours females ... and if it doesn't, then that's the general perception most men have.

Plus, in this day and age of equality, it's funny that women still seem to use this criteria for selecting partners, that they earn more than them... what happened to equal pay. It's like what JBP talks about, women marry up and across the social ladder, so a high performing female with good income will often have a much smaller pool of men to choose from as they still desire a men who earns as much or more than them.

I do think though the promotion of traditional families and marriage is the healthy route for any society and we suffer when that breaks down.
 

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Getting married costs a fortune and can often prove an unappealing prospect for men if it all goes pear-shaped and he gets dragged through the courts which generally favours females ... and if it doesn't, then that's the general perception most men have.

Plus, in this day and age of equality, it's funny that women still seem to use this criteria for selecting partners, that they earn more than them... what happened to equal pay. It's like what JBP talks about, women marry up and across the social ladder, so a high performing female with good income will often have a much smaller pool of men to choose from as they still desire a men who earns as much or more than them.

I do think though the promotion of traditional families and marriage is the healthy route for any society and we suffer when that breaks down.
Yeah pretty much all true.

I dont really see much of a point in actually getting married myself really. Then again I am not the most romantic person.
 
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It's like what I always say, (to her) "marriage is like a contract".

And contracts are for people who don't trust each other.
Totally agree, I do think marriage suits the lower earner in the relationship as well.

Me and my missus had a chat about it recently, we've been together about 4 and a half years, she said she'd rather have a cheap wedding and go on a nice holiday and her reason for getting married is so our daughter and her have the same surname :lol:
 
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Totally agree, I do think marriage suits the lower earner in the relationship as well.

Me and my missus had a chat about it recently, we've been together about 4 and a half years, she said she'd rather have a cheap wedding and go on a nice holiday and her reason for getting married is so our daughter and her have the same surname :lol:
I can understand that and I'm in the same boat. I went to a wedding in Cyprus a few years back and that was great and never cost too much... I wouldn't actually mind doing something like that. I do think it's a better set up to be married, there needs to be more incentives available.
 
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I can understand that and I'm in the same boat. I went to a wedding in Cyprus a few years back and that was great and never cost too much... I wouldn't actually mind doing something like that. I do think it's a better set up to be married, there needs to be more incentives available.
Something like that would be really good. Make a holiday of it. I can imagine it would be pretty shit if some of the two families didn't get on, which isn't an issue i'd have myself.

I'll see what the future holds myself, I'm at uni now for the next 4 years so it aint going to be any time soon.
 
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Getting married costs a fortune and can often prove an unappealing prospect for men if it all goes pear-shaped and he gets dragged through the courts which generally favours females ... and if it doesn't, then that's the general perception most men have.

Plus, in this day and age of equality, it's funny that women still seem to use this criteria for selecting partners, that they earn more than them... what happened to equal pay. It's like what JBP talks about, women marry up and across the social ladder, so a high performing female with good income will often have a much smaller pool of men to choose from as they still desire a men who earns as much or more than them.

I do think though the promotion of traditional families and marriage is the healthy route for any society and we suffer when that breaks down.
Most women I date in NYC make more money than I do. I just roll my eyes hearing the plight of women that complain about equal pay because of this. I'm sure it still happens but on a much smaller scale than women care to admit.
 

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I don't know how it is everywhere else but in the USA it's kinda dumb not to get married if you're going to stay with the same person for the rest of your life, especially if you have children together, just due to the tax benefits you receive for being married. But most people are too stupid pick a good partner to be with so I can understand why many people frown on marriage.
 
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Most women I date in NYC make more money than I do. I just roll my eyes hearing the plight of women that complain about equal pay because of this. I'm sure it still happens but on a much smaller scale than women care to admit.
It definitely does and will continue on the path into the foreseeable future with women performing better at university level and more men failing in school, the system won't re-balance either once the scales ti[p towards women.

I always imagine NYC dating to be some horrendous super competitive nightmare where it's all about how much cash you have, or the job you have or the places you can get women into... or is that all just TV world?

TBF, I did get my hole with some Indian girl from Queens on a night out in NYC but it was down in Hells Kitchen at some mental bar I found myself in, not rubbing shoulders with Wall Street hot-shots.
 
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It definitely does and will continue on the path into the foreseeable future with women performing better at university level and more men failing in school, the system won't re-balance either once the scales ti[p towards women.

I always imagine NYC dating to be some horrendous super competitive nightmare where it's all about how much cash you have, or the job you have or the places you can get women into... or is that all just TV world?

TBF, I did get my hole with some Indian girl from Queens on a night out in NYC but it was down in Hells Kitchen at some mental bar I found myself in, not rubbing shoulders with Wall Street hot-shots.
Well it's all about status, where do you live, what do you do for work, etc. They pretty much tell people how much you make.

But that's just one side of the coin, the other is having so many potential partners. Imagine being in a candy store and as you pick one up, then try it, you see a better one and drop the one you currently have. You continue this vicious cycle over and over. Until you've had enough. This has happened to me, and I've probably done the same. The trick is to find someone in the same place that is over the lifestyle. It's actually harder than it sounds.
Believe it or not most women I get into something serious are European transplants. My last two exes were from abroad.
 
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Not suprised. Marriage doesn't have the same appeal as it would have even as recently as 20 years ago. More and more women are looking for the perfect partner and more men are realising the advantages of being a bachelor. Also, with women more likely to work for longer and have a baby later in life, marriage is likely to be put on hold or not pursued at all.
 
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Getting married costs a fortune and can often prove an unappealing prospect for men if it all goes pear-shaped and he gets dragged through the courts which generally favours females ... and if it doesn't, then that's the general perception most men have.

Plus, in this day and age of equality, it's funny that women still seem to use this criteria for selecting partners, that they earn more than them... what happened to equal pay. It's like what JBP talks about, women marry up and across the social ladder, so a high performing female with good income will often have a much smaller pool of men to choose from as they still desire a men who earns as much or more than them.

I do think though the promotion of traditional families and marriage is the healthy route for any society and we suffer when that breaks down.

GETTING married doesn't have to be expensive. You can go the Justice Of The Peace route and be done with it for a couple hundred dollars including the marriage license. However, if the marriage fails, it's the getting divorced that is expensive, especially if kids and a lot of personal property are involved.

There is no doubt the courts favor the females, even if shown they are not as stable as the husband when all things are considered.
 
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Besides I hate weddings, they just reek of narcissism.
Just looked it up, 42% of marriages in UK end in divorce!
A marriage lasts forever.
A wedding ends in divorce.

I’m sure we’ve all been to a wedding that was overly flamboyant and you get the feeling they are trying to promote an image that doesn’t really exist.
There are many societal pressures that will make a man or a woman rush into a wedding for all of the wrong reasons, and in the case of this study, not get hitched at all.
 
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It's like what I always say, (to her) "marriage is like a contract".

And contracts are for people who don't trust each other.
not like a contract.

it IS a contract.

a legally enforceable one where the man gets nothing.

if it were a merger between two companies, then what company would agree to the other company getting everything in the event of a foreclosure?